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pbsds ,
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Because matrix is slow and xmpp is dead

skycat , (edited )

Matrix is bloated, eating VPS resources and it’s tied to Israeli Intel. Xmpp is better than bloated matrix. Besides I don’t trust matrix very much. Most of users use main matrix instance and don’t bother to spread the servers to avoid centralization

argv_minus_one ,

You realize IRC servers can read all of your messages, right? If you’re trying to hide from Israeli intel, that’s not how you do it.

deur ,

Also they should realize noone cares about them like that, nobody is going to come after them and E2E is E2E.

randomguy2323 OP ,

I am using Matrix because Noah in his Podcast Ask Noah Show really like to talk about it.

MrGerrit ,

In my younger years I used it to pirate stuff and back when I played counter strike, it was a requirement to have a channel for your clan to participate in matches on clanbase.org (rip)

Fuck I feel old… Good times.

randomguy2323 OP ,

I used to play counter strike too , but never got the chance to use IRC. Thank you for sharing :)

Acid ,
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I used IRC daily religiously for 15 years, but around 2011 I just stopped and never got back into using it. The client of choice was Xchat.

klangcola ,

Xchat with its sleek tab interface was the bomb

Doxin ,
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For anyone reading along: That’s called hexchat these days.

CumBroth , (edited )
@CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve made several friends on IRC and gotten acquainted with a lot of people with whom I want to remain in contact. There’s no point in moving to another platform, especially since, as u/[email protected] pointed out, it “just works” and there’s a client for it on every platform you can think of. I have my own IRC bouncer (ZNC) set up on a server of mine. I have it tailored to my preferences, set it up to log all the conversations I care about across multiple servers, and I can connect to it from any device I own now or might own in the future - same exact experience on all of them.

mdhughes ,
@mdhughes@lemmy.ml avatar

xkcd.com/1782/

Matrix, XMPP, etc. will all pass and be forgotten.

IRC will never die, and the channels on it are often useful. I suggest starting with libera.chat

Find a client you like. I’m on Mac, I tolerate LimeChat, Adium is “better” but I don’t use any other chats, which is what it’s for. There’s plenty of options. ircii is the classic.

ftothe3 ,

There really is an XKCD for everything

skycat ,

Nope xmpp is still going strong. I’ve been using xmpp over whtsapp for a while and I like it so much. You can even make a voice and video call. The best thingis it is federated just like fediverse

argv_minus_one ,

Anybody remember BitchX and the various scripts for mIRC? '90s IRC was edgy.

darkstar ,

I fondly remember all the functionality Polaris offered, and because piracy was a big part of my IRC use, also Fserve. I made some extensions of my own to help with the typical IRCOP duties. Good times.

willya ,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Stopped using irc ages ago. Only use matrix for Lemmy admin chat.

craigevil ,
@craigevil@lemmy.ml avatar

No one I know uses Matrix or xmpp. IRC is simple.

trimmerfrost ,

I don’t care if it’s irc or matrix. As long as it has my content of choice. But yeah, I would like better clients for irc on mobile

InFerNo ,

If you ever used twitch chat, that is IRC too

Contend6248 ,

Because it just fucking works

luap ,

cos irc just works. It worked just fine 20 years ago. It worked 20 ish years before that. In 20 more years it’ll still work.

Any idiot with some time and a computer can throw up an ircd and host a server for people to chat on. Every other chat program either requires some random company to host it, or a much deeper knowledge of computers and software.

The clients are available for every system around. From tiny little simple single connection clients, to massive complex graphical systems. You want to chat on plan9? There’s a client. An ancient amstrad cpc? There’s a client. (That one might be a bit more challenging) Android, Linux, Windows, Mac? All of them have clients, most of them multiple.

I will say, I like Matrix, I like XMPP, I am not a huge fan of any of the chat clients with a single point of failure like discord or teams or whatever. But IRC is still my favorite, and probably will be forever.

I just have it setup the way I want.

randomguy2323 OP ,

Thanks for sharing!

xtremeownage ,

I feel like I am going to need to dig my old tmux/screen setup out, and my irssi terminal configurations.

irssi

luap ,

Come on in! It’s still just as wild and wonderful as it ever was!

xtremeownage ,

I think I will work on setting it up again tomm.

I miss having a terminal window open with my irc client.

I’ll just have to go re-remember how to setup federation, linked instances, and all of that jazz…

randomguy2323 OP ,

Any suggestions where to start?

luap ,

Well. There are a few places around. The big ones are places like libera.chat, oftc.net, etc. Those are HUGE though (By irc standards) so sometimes it can get overwhelming trying to find somewhere to just hang out and chat. Slightly smaller servers tend to work better as an introduction, at least to me. Things like tilde.chat which has a clearly defined main chat area, and a lot of more niche chats for things you might be interested in.

Generally, if you get started on one server, and make some friends, join a few channels, find some interests, you’ll find your servers expanding. It’s a large enough ecosystem to have a LOT of people, but small enough that you’ll bump in to people you already know if you try multiple servers. Which is nice.

randomguy2323 OP ,

Very interesting! I don’t have that many tech friends just regular friends.

original_ish_name ,

If you want a middle griund between IRC and matrix check out XMPP!

LurkerCandado ,
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As others have already said, I guess it’s the repository of content. I watched Heat and Cape Fear for the first time yesterday, and then spent like an hour reading random threads about it. And I could have easily continued! And there are movies with an endless supply of huge threads, like Eyes Wide Shut.

This is just an anecdotal example that I just lived yesterday.

jayknight ,

Don’t you have to be in the channel when things are sent to see them? Like you can’t go join a channel today and go back to read history threads? Right?

kautau ,

Usually no, unless you run a server or have a client constantly running and recording messages

MJBrune ,

Not on IRC unless they have changed things since 2012.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Misread this as ICQ and was going to say “because of ‘uh oh’; always because of ‘uh oh’”

jabberati ,
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

@randomguy2323 I mostly use XMPP, but joining IRC channels with Biboumi just works and I enjoy that. Matrix bridges are awful in comparison. So many problems joining Matrix rooms, so I have given up on it.

randomguy2323 OP ,

Is XMPP another protocol too right? I read about that one. What’s the difference?

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