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Jolteon ,

If people know you as someone who doesn’t swear, when you do swear they will take note of what you’re saying.

Obsidian ,

Just never started.

kionite231 ,

I haven’t started it in English yet.

it_depends_man ,

I had a phase as a teen when I was constantly swearing. My parents told me that, it can’t be that bad and it’s really annoying.

And it’s mostly an impulse reaction and we’re kind of above that.

It doesn’t mean that you can’t express pain or anger. You’re just not insulting people’s ears if you scream “Aaaaah” when you bang your toe against a table leg or something. And your environment really doesn’t deserve it. Most people are somewhat compassionate and you’re just swearing while they try to help… that’s not a pleasant environment for them to be in. It makes it harder to help you.

No to both questions. I just made a change and that was it. And it has never stopped me from expressing anything.

If anything, it lends more weight to the regular words.

A _______ criminal? Or a criminal?

You can still put the same emotion into the words, they’re just not swear words. :)

borari , (edited )

And your environment really doesn’t deserve it. Most people are somewhat compassionate and you’re just swearing while they try to help… that’s not a pleasant environment for them to be in. It makes it harder to help you.

What are you trying to say here? Your environment doesn’t deserve to hear swearing? Yeah my coffee table and my cat really care when they hear me say fuck lol.

What kind of help are you talking about? What is this scenario you’re imaging here? I’m beyond confused, this shit makes absolutely no sense. In what world does hearing a swear word make it harder to do anything, unless you’re a Mormon (or some other dumbass religion) and hearing words like that cause you to actually collapse and writhe on the floor like a possessed banshee?

This whole take comes across as some out of touch boomer nonsense.

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aniki ,

I enjoy the exercise of trying to think ahead of the words coming out of my mouth so I can speak more concisely and clearly. It’s the same reason I do calligraphy.

OutlierBlue ,

If you can do calligraphy ahead of the words coming out of your mouth then I am thoroughly impressed.

aniki ,

No calligraphy is for writing slowly and deliberately. It has helped me immeasurably

OutlierBlue , (edited )

I try to avoid it because it dilutes your actual point. They’re filler words, that are sometimes used for actual emphasis, but mostly just said out of habit and really don’t mean anything at all.

Besides, if you rarely swear, it makes it even more powerful when you actually fucking mean it.

BaroqueInMind ,

Fuck no, they are powerful words that can convey emotion better than regular words, to the point where mods will ban you for hurting their feelings.

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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I have made a conscious effort to reduce swearing, which has brought my swearing down to near zero, both online and in real life conversation.

I have found that it streamlines the ability to make a point. A lot of swearing is simply thrown in out of habit, and if you remove it, all you do is make your point more clear without losing anything of substance.

I think for many people swearing is a “filler word” in the same way that “umm” can be. I have also worked hard to reduce my other filler word use. My goal with both of these is better articulation.

The next effect is that swearing is normally viewed as an extreme use of language for an extreme situation, and when you don’t constantly swear the times that you do actually conveys how notable the situation is.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Fuck that bullshit.

setsneedtofeed ,
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Delightful.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

What word in that comment is a filler word?

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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I don’t recall saying every use of a swear is a filler word.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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Fuck yeah dude

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

See, @setsneedtofeed?

In the comment I’m replying to, the fuck is a filler because it could easily just say ‘Yeah dude’ but the tone would be different.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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I’m glad we could collaborate on this effort and teach people some shit 🤝

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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Then it isn’t a filler. I never said I don’t swear, but have greatly reduced it. One effect of reduced swearing is that when swears are used, they have more punch.

I’m not sure why you’re so invested in debating that people who habitually swear won’t insert swears into unrelated thoughts, but the only support I offer is to listen to someone who habitually swears speak. I don’t want to sound like that, so I make the effort not to.

My choice on how I speak and type doesn’t impose anything on you.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Will Smith famously limits his swearing and doesn’t swear while rapping and next thing you know he’s bitch-slapping Chris Rock.

Mesa ,
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Trying to self-improve in a method that, regardless of its objective effectiveness, makes you feel satisfied and has no discernable effect on those around you?

Not if I can help it!

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I just don’t want to get bitch-slapped.

OhmsLawn ,

I just save it up.

It’s like yelling. Nobody pays attention if you do it all the time.

some_guy ,

I choose to swear because sometimes words aren’t enough otherwise. When faced with the horrors of this world, sometimes a good “fucking” paired with whatever garbage is just appropriate. As in, “this fucking society.”

Pacrat173 ,

Honestly not sure why I just never really did in the first place

HubertManne ,

I swear but try to limit it as much as I can. That way when I do it has more impact.

Alice ,

I still swear online, but I try not to do it aloud anymore because I accidentally dropped an f-bomb in front of a customer. I’m not bothered by them, and I don’t get why other people are, so I don’t think about it and get careless.

eightpix ,
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It was a cycle for me:

Not swearing led to swearing.

Swearing led to learning to swear in other languages.

Learning to swear in other languages served me well as I moved out of North America to teach.

Being out of North American led to me being more humble and less the brash North American. Also, I spent a lot of time with children.

Being less brash and speaking in other languages led me to think more about what I say before saying it.

Thinking about my speech led to downgrading swearing to make a point. I’ll swear, depending on the audience.

Specifically — like L-Boogie said — “I’ll add a MFer so you ign’ant ****s hear me.” (Fugees, The Score, “Zealots”) If I’m cursing, it’s prolly because there’s some ignorance in my area.

I admit, sometimes it’s mine.

Also, the irony is not lost on me that L fell off not too long after this rhyme. Celebrity culture can be a scene full of ignorance. I don’t blame her. I blame the industry.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

I’m not at all bothered by “swear words,” and I’ll use them occasionally (mostly when I think it’s funny), but it’s somewhat rare. I just don’t find it very necessary most of the time. I can usually make my point just find without, but sometimes the emphasis seems right out, again, it seems funnier.

Zachariah ,
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I don’t really use those words unless I’m in a state my brain cannot better articulate my thoughts and feelings. They are a crude tool.

Reminds me of:

quoteinvestigator.com/2012/08/…/substitute-damn/

…there is one thing I wish you would do when you sit down to write news stories, and that is: Never use the word, “very.” It is the weakest word in the English language; doesn’t mean anything. If you feel the urge of “very” coming on, just write the word, “damn,” in the place of “very.” The editor will strike out the word, “damn,” and you will have a good sentence.

agamemnonymous ,
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Used to swear a lot, still swear but much less frequently.

The effect of swearing is fairly diluted, they’re used so often they don’t really carry any weight when you use them. I find that there are typically better ways to emphasize a point, and using them more sparingly makes them more effective.

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