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Do you approve sex work? Why or why not?

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/18475086

I’m not against those who work for sex, but the idea to earn for a living doesn’t seem nice. IMO, sex should be for 2 people (or more for others who prefer polyamory) who wants to be intimate/romantic with each other. My point is money should not be the purpose.

queermunist ,
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I don’t approve of work.

modifier ,

I think it’s dangerous now, without regulation and protection, and I think it’s a long way from how I feel it will eventually come to be viewed; as something more akin to performance art or a form of therapy.

Leviathan ,

Yes.

If they hurt no one else and infringe on no one else’s rights I have no business policing what two consenting adults do with their bodies, time and/or money.

Edit: it should also be totally legal, like all drugs.

Rivalarrival ,

The purpose of sex should be defined by the participants, not by third parties. Government (public, third party) interest in the private act should be limited to protecting the participants from fraud, undue influence, unexpected diseases, unexpected pregnancies, violence… Basically, so long as everyone involved in the act is aware and freely agrees to the purpose, the actual purpose is functionally irrelevant.

Sex work is work.

I can see regulations against establishing an employer/employee working relationship, and instead mandating a private contractor relationship: an employee can disciplined or fired for failure to perform, or for refusing to serve the employer’s customers; a contractor can pick and choose their own clients.

The right of assembly; the freedom of association should broadly protect mutually consensual activities.

13esq ,

I think whether anyone approves of it or not is really irrelevant. People have bought and sold sex for thousands of years and will continue to do so.

The only questions is whether you think the sex trade should be illegal or stigmatised. My personal opinion is that criminalising sex work is a fools errand and that it’s no ones business if two consenting adults want to trade money for sex.

OurToothbrush ,

Sex work is work, and work (tying your capacity for labor to your continued survival) is bad. Sex workers should be supported like any member of the proletariat

Sex labor on the other hand? Sure as long as you have removed the exploitive element that comes with work.

shinigamiookamiryuu ,

The choice/situation blends in with every occupation so as long as no aggression or wrongful leverage is involved.

scrubbles ,
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I think a great example is OnlyFans. Pornography is close to full sex work, so it’s a fair comparison. Here was a field that was dominated by predatory companies and people in the worst places. Actors and Actresses frequently talked about how they were abused, pushed beyond what they thought was acceptable, underpaid, hurt, raped, and honestly still worse.

Enter OnlyFans, a more legitimate way for workers to create their own content, their own pricing, set their own rules and their own boundaries. By legitimizing pornography and pornographic actors it made the entire thing safer for the workers themselves.

It’s natural that sex work would follow this. It’s wildly known that sex work is not a safe business, and it’s extremely predatory. Taking our opinions out of it completely, if the options are A) let the extremely terrible and predatory underground business continue as it has or B) legitimize the business, add protections, and allow them to set their own rules - well then, isn’t the moral option obvious?

zephr_c ,

My approval is irrelevant. People do it, and people pay for it, so it deserves all the same respect and rights as any other work. No one’s value comes from my opinion of what they do to pay the bills, and it is not my place to tell people what sex “should” be.

LustyArgonianMana , (edited )
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I think it depends by what you mean by support. I support people’s legal right to practice all forms of sex work. I think it’s silly to outlaw sex work.

On a personal level, I think sex workers are a “final frontier” when it comes to workers’ rights and we should stand together in solidarity and demand certain standards for sex work so it can be done ethically. Things like:

  • all sex workers must be independent contractors or cooperatives. They cannot be owned by a company or third party.
  • all sex workers have the same protected privacy status as priests in terms of what they can be compelled to disclose. Everyone should have the right to sexual privacy with their kinks including the sex worker.
  • if a sex worker does want to report suspected illegal activity, they are completely protected. It is up to the worker whether they will disclose information regarding encounters (ps, you DEFINITELY want this. Sex workers hear terrifying things they cannot report for fear of repercussions).
  • it is rape to lure a sex worker into sex under false pretenses (or sexual assault/battery). Including lying about HIV sti status, lying about ability to pay, or lying about anything that would affect her ability to say yes or no to the interaction
  • all sex workers should be allowed to politely decline any client, no repercussions. Including strippers.

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I personally see people as a Dominatrix. I only see people I genuinely like. Due to the nature of people who see Dominatrixes, most of my subs are not sexual anyway, and I decide sex on my terms/comfort. I am polyamorous and very good at FemDomming, so I figured it would be a fun job at the end of the world. I get to meet a lot of people and travel, it’s pretty fun. I think if I was doing more survival work it would be different, or if I was doing full service etc. But I genuinely like every sub I take on (otherwise it’s really boring and not fun, which defeats the purpose of this job in the first place). Sex work doesn’t have to look like a hookup. Usually most people are looking for connection, even with porn and stripping.

janus2 ,
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Yes, but ideally there should be regulation to prevent pimping, predation, trafficking, and STI spread. At the very least, decriminalization protects sex workers from fear of prosecution preventing them from seeking healthcare, legal help, etc.

Trafficking is heinous, but it also gets irreverantly thrown around as a whataboutism by people who are against it for personal instead of rational reasons.

The root of the problems with sex work, as always, is tying means of survival to productivity, which I am against both personally and rationally :P

smegger ,

Agreed. If they decriminalise and regulate it, sex work is much safer for all involved. People gotta pay bills and if sex work is their chosen profession, good for them.

Hildegarde ,

Sex work is a more respectable career than debt collector, or CEO.

hddsx ,

No I don’t approve sex work. Who am I? The sex work administration? Do you need a stamp from me to perform sex work? No?

Then who cares?

desentizised ,

They often say it’s the oldest business in the world. Which might not be relevant to how we should treat it as a society today, but what seems obvious to me is that when you de-facto criminalize and discourage something the working conditions are going to suffer.

There probably isn’t a place in the world where it isn’t practiced yet we love to pretend like we’re somehow past that. Not sure how much of that is based in religion and how much is just us being in denial of our own biology-based desires in a secular modern society. Either way it is hurting people who are just as entitled to making a living as anybody else.

lordnikon ,

Work is Work an it should be safe for everyone. Can you imagine the good they could do if that field expanded to Sex Therapy/Counseling. Where they could really help people with sexual disfunction and self esteem.

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