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PedroMaldonado ,

Ima vote for some sanity, so its Kamala and Walz.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t know anything about the guy. What are his strong points?

Mouselemming ,

He’s good on climate, his kids are via IVF and he’s supported reproductive freedom in his state, he had a cat until old age took it and has a dog, he’s been married to the same woman for 30+years, he’s LGBTQ supportive, he got laws passed so MN provides breakfast, lunches, and tampons in schools,

Diplomjodler3 ,

I won’t vote in the US election but I think Walz is quite a solid candidate. If I was a US citizen, I’d vote Democrat but the VP pick wouldn’t really make a difference there.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I'm just happy they didn't double down and pick the IDF guy.

I feel like the Democratic party is, slowly and gradually as is its nature, learning its fucking lesson. If they went far enough to actually stop supporting genocide, that might be nice.

kitnaht ,

No way in fuckall would I ever vote Republican. Initially I was against the switchup, because I was concerned that - through legal means - they would block her becoming the DNC candidate but I’m cautiously optimistic right now.

ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I will not be voting, except for local candidates. I encourage the capitalist zionist fascist pigs and all their supporters and apologists for the DNC and GOP to go neck rope.

neidu2 ,

Dementia Don sends his thanks.

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I prefer Toddler Tonguing Trump, but you do you.

0x01 ,

Harris has me profoundly optimistic. She’s the most qualified candidate I’ll have had the chance to vote for in my lifetime.

Walz is fine, I was keen on Buttigieg but I’ll happily vote for Walz and let Buttigieg keep his important current position.

My biggest hope is that Kamala will draw out some of the less extreme right leaning women, nobody needs to know that they’re voting for the better candidate and God knows women need allies with the ongoing barrage.

This election cycle is not about fear for me, Harris is an easy candidate to vote for!

Don_Dickle OP ,

lol no offense you sound like her hype man.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Why would you ask the question if someone who's going to be enthusiastic about their answer is going to be confusing to you

IDK if you've noticed but a lot of people are excited about Harris, although maybe that's just happiness because it's not the guy who might have a sundown moment on stage or something

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Same here. I wish Buttigieg were in the running. The man is intensely smart and passionate.

corsicanguppy ,

I feel it should be “Lemmies” because we never, ever, pluralize with an apostrophe.

Also can’t vote for either but I have too much compassion for America to ever vote for Mr Trump anyway.

tigeruppercut ,

In some style guides single letters get pluralized with an apostrophe to differentiate from similar words. You’d talk about all the a’s in a sentence because otherwise you’re writing as, and then for consistency’s sake you do the same with other single letters too.

hddsx ,

I am warming to her but her VP pick doesn’t matter to me. I refuse to vote for Trump.

cabron_offsets ,

Bruh, I think you’ll find that most of us were gonna vote for the D, no matter what. For the record, I like this choice of veep and Harris has won me over. I immediately felt dejected after the debate and wished that Biden would go away. I wasn’t enthused about Harris, but I figured we have no choice but to risk it. Biden did us right in the end. And Harris has been impressive in her consolidation of support and her organization.

mozz , (edited )
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Yeah I was a constant Biden promoter and moderately opposed to replacing him just because I thought that, as big a problem as his age was, the prospect of the Democrats figuring out a plan B without cocking it up was remote enough that it might be better to keep him on.

Having seen the way it happened (so far) I've never been so happy to be so wrong.

BaroqueInMind ,

No conservatives browse this site, you’re only going to get Kamala voters here, including myself, telling you what you want to hear: we are going to fucking vote for any Democrat. We are what people call an echo chamber.

11111one11111 ,

Conservative as fuck but haven’t had a single Conservative presidential candidate to vote for in over 10 years. Even then I think I voted Obama twice lol.

BaroqueInMind ,

Conservative as fuck

Prove it: what’s a better caliber, .38 S&W or 9mm?

ohlaph ,

Neither. 45 all the way.

hitstun , (edited )
@hitstun@fedia.io avatar

This is true. There are two kinds of people who would vote orange. There are those too dumb to understand that he'd make himself dictator, and consequently too dumb to use the Fediverse. Then, there are those smart enough to understand those things and evil enough to want a dictatorship, and they're mostly on those tankie/fascist instances everyone else defederated. Neither of those groups will ever see this thread.

LarkinDePark ,

You people are genocide supporters. You will always be complicit.

JIMMERZ ,

Fuck off.

LarkinDePark ,

Know thyself.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

This. Most people here will vote for Wilson from Castaway if he was the Dem nominee.

And they wouldn’t even say it’s because Wilson is the only Dem. They would come up with all the ways that Wilson is actually a good presidential candidate.

MagicShel ,

In comparison to Trump, I can give you a long list of ways.

tiefling ,
  • He doesn’t wear diapers
  • He’s an active listener
  • He’s never incited genocide
  • He has never told a lie
  • He’s prettier
  • He has never betrayed his friends

And most importantly

  • He isn’t a fascist insurrectionist weirdo
grue ,

My probability of voting for Harris has changed from 100% to 100%, but I’m more excited about it because she picked the guy Bernie endorsed.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Walz is the ballz baby

dylanmorgan ,

I was cautiously optimistic about Harris before, now I’m regular optimistic. Walz seems like a good dude who will appeal to working class voters, having been a schoolteacher and a union member, and able to be folksy with a genuine-ness that DJT and JD couchfucker couldn’t muster in a dozen lifetimes.

Sam_Bass ,

Nothing on this planet would ever get me to vote for the angry orange. Ever.

NauticalNoodle ,

I will be voting Green regardless. As far as I’m concerned Harris was the 2nd or 3rd most conservative candidate in the 2020 Democrat primaries out of ±14 candidates. She was only in front of Bloomberg and maybe Biden on the spectrum. Her replacing Biden was always a very real possibility for anyone that actually understands U.S. government & politics as well as the whole ‘aging-process.’

-I don’t expect to win but I’d rather vote for who I want and lose than vote for who I don’t want and win.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I don't expect to win but I'd rather vote for who I want and lose than vote for who I don't want and win.

What about people who don't have that luxury, who may literally not make it to the end of a second Trump administration with their life undestroyed by it? Hispanic immigrants are the most obvious candidates, although honestly it could expand to encompass quite a few people.

Why are you not worried about Trump ending the democratic machinery that you might use to vote in a Green candidate in the future? Trump seems like just as big a disaster for third-party democracy as he does for two-party democracy.

Do you agree with Stein about disbanding NATO? Is that one of those things you would rather vote for and lose than etc etc? I actually think most of her platform looks excellent if it could be pulled off, but that one is a little bit of a random red flag in the mixture.

NauticalNoodle , (edited )

If the only real choice is between a “fascist” that will end Democracy and somebody who doesn’t represent me, then you can’t really argue that we live in a Democracy and then there is nothing to defend.

If it’s your fellow people you are concerned about protecting, then I’d advise you to check your candidate’s policy because the Green’s Policy has a way stronger humanitarian bend to it. -In fact, I’d also like to direct you to the Democrats recently proposed Immigration bill if you’re worried about protecting the Hispanic and immigrant population

I’m Indifferent to Nato considering it’s such a huge financial sacrifice the people of our country are making to perpetuate a military industrial machine that kills hundreds of thousands while also disproportionately protecting countries that are not our own. perhaps those countries should take the mantle and pay to support themselves as the ‘World Police.’ If we cut our military budget by 50% we still have the second largest military in the world. -We still don’t have a publicly funded Healthcare option and I’m suppose to care about sustaining NATO? No, that’s not a high priority to me.

[Edit] Also In response to what if trump wins and ends my ability to vote third party, I’d say “what if I vote democrat and they end my ability to vote third party?” I ask this because that was a very real concern after covid when Democrat governors were all too happy to kick the Green party off of the various state ballots for not getting enough signatures while making exceptions for their own parties.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Interesting

How about Navalny? Also what's your take on the Venezuelan election?

I'm not asking that implying that the answer will be any particular type of way, just curious what you think about those issues.

NauticalNoodle ,

Outlook not so good for Navalny long-term, regardless. Perhaps Germany, UK, France should spend more of their own budget to wind up military production to help their own neighbor. We need to stay The f*** out of Central & South American Politics full-stop.

MagicShel ,

You can’t lose a vote you aren’t even in the running for. That’s like writing in Charlie Brown and then saying you lost the vote. You didn’t; you just didn’t cast a meaningful vote for President. You’re changing nothing. You’re not moving the Overton window even a hair to the left. You’re just sitting on the sidelines.

But you know if you give zero shits about the presidency and just want to vote in local races, that’s fair, I suppose.

NauticalNoodle ,

Cry more.

MagicShel ,

What on earth would lead you to believe I’m crying? You’re irrelevant by your own account. I’ll worry way more about people who actually give a damn.

FireTower ,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Voting isn’t only about winning. It’s also about making your voice heard. In hard Blue or Red states an individual vote won’t likely make a difference. If a 3rd party got enough of the vote Republicans and Democrats would be scrambling over each other to make their party platform more palatable to that 3rd party.

More power to them, beats not voting.

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