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andrewta ,

Certain jobs I would. fire, police

Most jobs I would not

perishthethought OP ,

Sure. But where to draw that line? I can imagine companies will want them for liability reasons.

andrewta ,

The line I draw currently is this. Jobs that we currently look at and say those persons should have body cams. Police fire rescue.

I’d also add landlords and their staff/assistants should have them. Other than that . No I wouldn’t wear them.

Little_mouse ,

I imagine if my occupation includes carrying a gun, interacting with citizens, and a historically high rate of extrajudicial deaths amongst people I am supposed to be protecting. A publicly accessible camera would be beneficial to easing the minds of those I interact with and providing evidence for any actual instances where I felt my life was threatened.

lolcatnip , (edited )

Draw the line at jobs where someone wields authority over the public, disputes can’t be easily resolved after the fact, and the person doing the job moves around too much for fixed cameras to be adequate. I can’t off the top of my head think of an example that isn’t in law enforcement.

If you take away the authority part, you could say that, for example, cleaning personnel should wear body cameras because it’s so easy for them to commit theft, but they’re already treated pretty poorly and I wouldn’t want them humiliated further.

anon6789 ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

I heartily agree: they should be a tool to serve the public interest. That police can withhold that footage after an incident or have any justification having a camera off in public, I find it reprehensible.

Using it on private citizens feels more like having a cheap overseer…just a tool to punish.

brokenlcd ,

are you ready to wear one?

I’m ready to make an elton john style jacket full of infrared leds

neidu2 , (edited )

What’s stopping you? You do you.

c0smokram3r ,
@c0smokram3r@midwest.social avatar

I fucking love this idea!!!

henfredemars ,

That depends… who controls the footage?

If it’s my employer, absolutely not unless the job is high liability already because then it becomes a liability for me when somebody else controls my data.

If it’s just for me, sure I would wear it if it’s not too much trouble and I have concerns.

HobbitFoot ,

There are things that I do where a body cam would be useful, but I wouldn’t wear it for office work.

Death_Equity ,

Absolutely not. You can justify it with whatever reasoning you want, but it would be used against employees far more than it helps employees.

earlgrey0 ,

Preach. It wasn’t body cams but our company gave us all mandatory phones with custom location tracking software on them. It was done as part of their pandemic response. The phones were supposedly only tracking your location within a mile of the site and were only used for enforcing social distancing and infection tracking. Well when the return to office mandates came around, upper management was suddenly too informed about how much time we spent onsite. They swore up and down it wasn’t the phones and went to pretty absurd lengths to find some other metric to prove it.

Death_Equity ,

If I had to deal with that, the phone would be in a faraday box with a router that connected to a VPN that cycled servers every 24hrs.

Every day they would think I was in a different country.

earlgrey0 ,

There’s a reason why they’re my former employer. Upper management was discussing replacing our badges with the phone. We needed the phones to get into the building because that was where the covid protocol pass was kept and security checked. It was impressive how quickly they took advantage of the pandemic to make creepy breeches in privacy.

richieadler ,

Hell no. That would turn anything other than unflinching obsequiousness towards obnoxious clients and potential fraudsters into a firing offense. Specially in the already dystopian US job market.

wildbus8979 ,

I would absolutely, categorically, stop doing business wherever I see employees wearing bodycams.

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Sure. Why not? It will probably work like it does with US police officers, magically turning off right before the murder takes place self defence happens.

Seriously, I wouldn’t care at all. But it’s still a stupid idea and I would strongly oppose it. Even if only in solidarity with people it would fuck over.

neidu2 ,

“Self defence”

Plot twist: you work at Home Depot.

30p87 ,

Imagine an 8 hour livestream of someone banging their head on the keyboard until the code magically fixes itself. Very fun.

perishthethought OP ,

Same here. But imagine if you were living in The Fifth Element world of mega-corps. They tell you to wear a camera so they can tell when you’re not working…

There’s monitoring software like that already.

Vanth ,
@Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

No. Mine isn’t the sort of job where bad interactions with customer happen. Everyone is white collar for the most part and the aggression comes in a written contract with a gaggle of lawyers reading every word.

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Never.

CobblerScholar ,

Everyone in the building wears one regardless.

My management or owners are not allowed to see the content and it can only be reviewed by a third party arbitration.

If the camera is off I might as well be dead to my employers and coworkers.

My pay increases proportionally to the success of the business.

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

Absolutely not. I like my current job, but if body cams became mandatory, I’d quit. I’d get ready to leave if they were ever even “tested” at another location.

Aganim ,

Absolutely not, as that would mean my company violates my country’s privacy laws. In my field of work there is no valid reason for wearing a body cam.

neidu2 , (edited )

I’ve actually considered it, mainly because it’d be useful for me to document what I do and how while keeping my hands free.

My job involves a lot of hardware troubleshooting, and when people ask me a year later when and how some specific issue was resolved, it’d be a whole lot easier to check the tape.

Yes, taking notes is possible, but when you’re troubleshooting an industrial system, and downtime costs 40.000$ per hour, updating your diary isn’t exactly a priority.

I don’t really have much of a privacy aspect to worry about - the only time it’d be beneficial for anyone would be while doing field work, and at that time I usually have 10-20 people waiting on me anyway.

I haven’t found a durable camera that I can wear discreetly, though.

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