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Does anyone here NOT hate Google?

I’m curious because I see a ton of Google hate on here daily. It’s certainly not all unwarranted, and I do agree with some of the privacy concerns.

That being said I do very much enjoy their products. Gmail, Photos, Chrome, Gemini, Home, Assistant, YouTube, Pixel phones, etc… I’ve tried out many of the alternatives but always come back to their ecosystem.

Curious as to how many of you here on the fedi use Google products without the common associated angst from the FOSS community.

originalucifer ,
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i used to love google.. ive been around since the beginning and used many of their products.

it feels like a friend or family member thats slid into serious meth or other drug use... you can only stick around attempting to help them for so long. at some point you know you have to cut your losses or be further dragged into their destruction.

when they dropped the 'dont be evil' was right around the time i also realized they dont actually support their products, and kill them on a whim. i jumped ship ~2012 when they started fuckin around with google voice and had no real ambition with G+. .

Balinares ,

They didn’t drop the don’t be evil thing. It’s still right there in the code of conduct where it always was, they just moved it to the conclusion of the document so it’s the last thing that remains with you. See for yourself: abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

The supposed removal is a perfect example of the outrage-bait headlines I’m discussing in another comment.

unknowing8343 ,

There’s a whole Wikipedia page covering the motto drop. And yes, it was an ugly move deserving of all the bad press.

corvi ,

From literally the first paragraph stating it’s still there.

The original motto was retained in Google’s code of conduct, now a subsidiary of Alphabet. Between April 21st and May 4th of 2018, the motto was removed from the code of conduct’s preface and retained in its last sentence.[9]

BearOfaTime ,

So it’s dropped from the motto?

Yes, they dropped it.

It was a Warrant canary

criitz ,

They definitely stopped living by that mantra at the same time. It may exist as a footnote to this giant code of conduct but it hasn’t been their MO in over a decade. The reaction is justified.

Hawke ,

right there […] where it always was.

they just moved it to the conclusion

Make up your mind, which one is it?

bamboo ,

If it’s any consolation, they haven’t killed Google Voice. They haven’t updated it since 2012, but it’s still around.

BearOfaTime ,

I get updates a couple times a year.

But it hasn’t changed

TexasDrunk ,

I loved them for a long time and was around since the beginning as well. When they opted everyone into Buzz without their consent I became real cautious about what I share with them. I still use some services, and even used Stadia when they had it. However, I’m ready for them to turn anything off at any time and don’t share any info with them that I wouldn’t want public.

JohnDClay ,

For me it’s a love hate relationship. I love the idea of their products, but hate that often they’re the only feasible options in their categories.

Tolookah ,

I use Google products, at this point they likely know more about me than I do.

meldrik ,

Google make some good products. I am just not willing to trade my privacy for it.

TheAlbatross ,

I dunno if I hate Google, but I’ve grown tired of their bullshit. I use their products, but mostly because they’ve become the default solution being so feature rich and widely used. They’ve leveraged that to bog them down with ads and Spyware and THAT I despise.

MrScottyTay ,

I use a lot of Google products. I still rate their phones as the best, recently I use a Jelly Star instead purely because i was due a new phone from my pixel 3 but every current phone from Google and it’s competitors that fit my needs are way too big.

I stopped using Google search because in the last few months I’ve started realising it’s harder to find stuff that i want/need, so i now use ddg, which isn’t better than old Google but better than current.

Outside of those though I still use my Google account as my main federated account. Still use gmail (wish inbox was still around for it though), still use chrome, and drive is my cloud storage of choice. On top of that I have 3 Google nest minis and a Chromecast with Google tv.

I may be drifting away slowly but Google still has is teeth in me and at the moment where I’m being bitten I’m fine with it. Doesn’t hurt at all

I_Miss_Daniel ,

I’m happy with most of their stuff and use it a lot (calendar, drive, keep etc) but I know not to trust them not to kill things. I keep an IMAP copy of my emails and a local copy of my photos just in case…

ArbitraryValue ,

I’m frustrated because IMO their search keeps getting worse, but most of their other core products (Gmail, Chrome, Drive, Docs) are pretty good. I’m not mad about the lack of privacy because I feel that that was part of the deal I knowingly accepted back when I was an early adopter. I’d rather get free service than pay for impossible-to-verify privacy, especially when the free service has minimally annoying ads (eg. Gmail but not Youtube).

tyler ,

Man I’d say their other stuff is terrible as well. Yeah it functions but what a low bar to meet.

Kusimulkku ,

There’s just so much to hate

parpol ,

I hate all of google. The world would be a much better place if all of google disappeared overnight.

MudMan ,

I don't have feelings about corporations.

"Loving" or "hating" brands, let alone massive oligarchal conglomerates makes no sense at all. I want them well regulated and split down to reasonable size if necessary. Ideally competing in a well populated marketplace and restricted in their ability to cause damage.

That's not "hate". And it certainly doesn't stop me using Google products and services and judging them based on their quality and performance.

Yes, I am a riot at parties, thank you very much.

magic_lobster_party ,

Hate is a strong word.

I have a dislike for them. Especially in recent years. There was a time I thought they were the cool hip company with lots of cool innovations. When Google docs launched it was so revolutionary that two people could work with the same document at the same time.

Now I see them more for what they are: an advertisement provider. They’re only after our data. Once I realized that my dislike for them grew.

But my dislike for them hasn’t been enough to stop using their products. I’ve tried DDG a few times, but I’ve always been dissatisfied with their results.

Balinares ,

It’s not the company it once was, but there are also a lot of outrage-bait headlines about it that don’t hold up well to scrutiny.

For instance, there have been a lot of Lemmy posts about Chrome supposedly removing the APIs used by adblockers. I figured I’d validate that on my own by switching to the version of uBlock that is based on the new API. Well… As it turns out, it works fine. It’s also faster.

Mind you, figuring out the actual facts behind each post gets exhausting, and people just shutting down and avoiding the problem space entirely makes some sort of sense. That, and it is healthy for an ecosystem to have alternatives, so I’d keep encouraging usage of Firefox and such if only on that basis alone.

sunzu , (edited )

It is mega Corp and they are all the same.

Treat them as the enemy of the people. Can't go wrong

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Hate is a strong word.

I prefer to avoid their services due to privacy, and because over the long term, they’re unreliable. Any other for-profit corporation that tries to offer a bunch of free SASS products is going to end up with privacy issues as well; knowing the incentives lets us predict the outcome.

I’m keeping my Pixel 4a as long as I possibly can though.

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