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Is cake a sort of bread?

So according to Merriam Webster bread is: a usually baked and leavened food made of a mixture whose basic constituent is flour or meal

And cake is: A: a breadlike food made from a dough or batter that is usually fried or baked in small flat shapes and is often unleavened B: a sweet baked food made from a dough or thick batter usually containing flour and sugar and often shortening, eggs, and a raising agent (such as baking powder)

And yet some people don’t think that cake is bread.

What’s your opinion?

MeowZedong ,
@MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Cake is not bread.

According to Urban Dictionary, cake is: Another word meaning ass or butt.

Bread is: The shit you throw at ducks to get them to fuck off.

SweetCitrusBuzz ,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

All words are made up, so if you would like to define cake as a bread then I see no problem with that personally.

I am unsure if others would agree with you, but they might given specific context.

Personally, I don’t care too much, all I know is that cake it delicious.

P.S. There are definitely cakes that are not at all bread like though, like ice cream cake or cheese cake etc.

wildbus8979 ,

Bread usually has yeast, a cake never does.

Binette OP ,

What about pancakes?

wildbus8979 ,

They aren’t a cake, and they don’t have yeast either

techwooded ,

Lots of cakes in Germany for example are traditionally made from yeasted doughs

polonius-rex ,

the first result for "cake with yeast"

Ziggurat ,

I always used yeast when doing a cake, so the dough rise.

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

whole category of cakes are called “quick bread” (ex. banana bread) because they’re baked in a loaf pan (they get the name from the shape rather than the ingredients)

sylver_dragon ,

they get the name from the shape rather than the ingredients

I was under the understanding that the main difference was that quick breads used chemical leavening agents (e.g. baking powder) instead of yeast. Hence the “quick” in “quick bread”. Wikipedia (always a source of unblemished truth /s) seems to agree with my understanding.

Nefara ,

Yep, Irish soda bread is a quickbread made from a dough with baking soda as the rising agent, and it is absolutely a bread, not a cake.

polonius-rex ,

i'd argue banana bread is cake, and is not bread, even though it has "bread" in its name

if you were offered a slice of banana bread but they were out so you got a slice of sandwich loaf instead, i suspect you'd be more annoyed than if you got a slice of chocolate cake

RoquetteQueen ,
@RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works avatar

And the texture of actual sweet breads is way different than the texture of banana bread. Breads are chewy, cakes are crumbly.

oxjox ,
@oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

cake is: A: a breadlike food

Why are you questioning the definition you’ve provided?

Binette OP ,

If you google the question, you’ll get lots of people saying that cake isn’t bread, despite being similar.

Xoriff ,

I think it’s that people like certain levels of specificness. Like, bread, pizza, and broccoli are all foods, but if you said “I had a food for lunch” that’d sound weird.

It’s not necessarily that cake isn’t a type of bread or that the two aren’t closely related. It’s that we have a super-common and more specific word for it (cake) so it sounds awkward when you use a different word that might be technically accurate, but is a weird choice in practice.

Same for a lot of things. A hot dog and a sub are technically the same thing. But if a waiter dropped off your hot dog and said “here’s your pork sub”, you’d probably look at them funny.

oxjox ,
@oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

You asked the question, “is a cake a sort of bread” and the dictionary is explicitly stating “cake is a breadlike food”.

Are you instead asking if “lots of people” is a more reliable source than the dictionary?

Binette OP ,

No but like something being bread like doesn’t mean that it is bread, just similar to bread.

Eylrid ,

Something can be breadlike without being bread, in a similar way to how whales are fishlike without being fish.

The dictionary doesn’t dictate how words should be used; it reports how people use them. Consulting a dictionary is a way to find out how “lots of people” use a word.

eezeebee ,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Sort of, yeah. If you asked me to categorize foods as “bread-like” or not, I would definitely count cake. But I would probably not make a sandwich with cake.

BugleFingers ,

Oh would you not? Then what is the jelly or frosting fillings between the layer? Isn’t that A JELLY SANDWICH??

(I am being aloof for the purpose of humor)

eezeebee ,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s not every day that a comment makes me self-reflect and challenge my beliefs like this.

Thank you for opening my mind, Buglefingers. I’ve got a lot of thinking to do.

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