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Legendsofanus ,
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I was born in 2001, what does that make me?

AnarchistArtificer ,

Pretty sure Gen Z

Legendsofanus ,
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That’s so lame 😔 you mean my years of reading books, playing original Pokemon games on java phone, reading Barefoot Gen manga and loving Down the Waterfront were wasted because I came to exist at a time when my entire generation is from Ohio?

AnarchistArtificer ,

Ha, that’s a mood; I have a theory about how the millennial/gen Z practical cut off is especially socioeconomically dependent — as you describe, it’s possible to resonate with millennial motifs way more depending on where you grew up. I think you effectively demonstrate how limited generational categories can be, especially if we treat them like hard boundaries between groups

Legendsofanus ,
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Yeah exactly, you absorb what you grow around in and learn from that. There’s no guarantee that just because you were born in a generation that you would behave according to the mainstream stereotypes of that generation

tacosplease ,

Old Millennial.

I grew up without cell phones or Internet until my teen years. Remember watching the OJ trial whenever I was home sick from school.

We were really worried about Y2K, which would have been a disaster if not fixed ahead of time.

Had to work on 9/11, and remember what airports were like before all the added security.

Also had to work - pushing groceries to people’s cars while the VA sniper was rolling around the area shooting people in parking lots.

I remember people smoking cigarettes fucking everywhere. There were cigarette vending machines.

Our 2 and 3 liter bottles had an extra plastic piece to make the bottom flat. I don’t think they were making them with feet like they do today. The bottoms were round, requiring a plastic shoe to create a flat bottom. Sometimes the bottles had a metal cap.

Hardly anybody wore seatbelts. Gas was under $1/gallon when I started driving.

pachrist ,

Slightly younger old millennial.

Bacon used to be just about the most expensive meat you could buy.

Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden.

Terrorists were angry leprechauns who had been abused by centuries of British oppression.

Russia was kind of cool for a little while.

tryptamine ,

This is me.

Parents are baby boomers but had me really late. I used to watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in my Super Mario themed tightey whitey underwear when I was like 4 years old…

I remember in my small town leaving the house on my bike when I was 5 years old at sun up, and being gone playing with friends until the street lights came on, because that was when dinner was ready. I could easily have killed myself or been kidnapped, my parents didn’t see me for 12+ hours at a time.

I’m from Oklahoma and I remember the walls of my schools Gym shaking from the Murrah Federal Building bombing.

I was in Middle School and remember lots of high schoolers having gun racks, with hunting rifles, in their trucks parked in the student parking lot. And it was normal.

I was in A+ classes at a community college while in high school and watched a live stream of the TODAY show as the second plane hit the WTC tower…

I’ve watched the world go to shit, I have a kid that just turned 18 and I’m angry that they won’t get to live in a world that even resembles the one I grew up in.

I’m just fucking angry.

RizzRustbolt ,

Lost.

Any “gap” between generations falls into the Lost category.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

I think the official term is “Cuspers”

deadcatbounce , (edited )
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Gen X. The generation that couldn’t be arsed to programme the video recorder or cooker digital time-clock, but knew how to.

There were a lot of power cuts in our (UK) youth and we remember saying to ourselves, “Ok, so that’s how it’s gonna be, huh?!”. Still kicking arse and taking names.

We were the grown-up’s TV remote control, with our 1200 bits per second magnetic tape storage for BBC B home computers (from the later ARM boys), before we got 360kB 5" floppy disks.

Tech doesn’t phase us (yet); AI is a better average conversation than a spouse.

CrabAndBroom ,

Also Gen X UK person here, I remember in the 90s when that hurricane made it over from the US, and we had no power for 9 days.

My dad went full survivalist, we ate nothing but baked beans cooked on a camping stove, and he got this portable black and white TV from somewhere that we could watch for an hour a day because it ran off a car battery lol.

deadcatbounce ,
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Greetings fellow traveler! [I’m an early model X - late sixties].

Are you taking about the Michael Fish, ‘There isn’t going to be a hurricane.’ blunder? Sevenoakes became Oneoak! 1987 perhaps? I really don’t remember that, would you remind me, please?

I’m talking about the 1970s strikes which cut power to the whole country for sets of three or four days; Ted Heath being reacquainted with the role of the electorate before they all became Tony Blair-esque dopey smiling useless clones in 1992 ish (until we found out about Major-Curry (hehe!)). Going shopping with candles on trolleys, thawing food in the freezers.

Lorindol ,

We X’s were born into the analog world and grew up as the digital age started to emerge. We have the luxury of knowing both.

captainlezbian ,

Young millennial. And yeah, I think it’s not the most stark and clear cut, but older millennials had hope once it was just dashed upon adulthood, gen z grew up with everyone getting that they were hopeless. Us young millennials though, it was awkward as a 13 year old trying to explain to my parents that I was doomed.

But I definitely have more in common with someone a few years younger than me than several years older

velox_vulnus ,

Gen-Z here, born in the 00s.

KazuchijouNo ,

Hey there 00’s brother!

Cano ,

How do you do fellow zoomers?

fossphi ,

Want the suffering to end

Interesting_Test_814 ,

Another fellow 00’s sister reporting here !

Katrisia ,

I hate these generational divides. Are we really supposed to think that a person from 1982 and a person from 1994 (both millennials) have more in common than a person from 1994 and one from 1997 (one millennial and one zoomer)? It makes no sense.

If I had to answer, I guess the closest would be Zillenial: born around the mid 90s.

Sam_Bass ,

The electrochemical kind

erp ,

Generation labels are BS.

At some point, a clever media article increments the previous letter, or since everything was not planned well from the beginning and the letters have run out, stamps a poorly conceived label on a group of people.

These ‘generations’ are based on ambiguous date cutoffs, are engineered retroactively, and don’t really align with any actual zeitgeist of a period. Because discrete vs continuous and other reasons. But any good scapegoat requires a convenient label.

Begun, the generation wars have.

The older generation is blamed for the world’s problems since they were ‘in charge’. The younger generation is blamed for being impulsive or wild, just not working hard enough, and maybe having too little respect. Also toast wrecks the economy or something?

The older generation is perplexed by the fracas since the people who were actually in power were supposed to be taking care of the big problems, while they were working a job, raising kids, and hoping to retire some day. They had no direct power and could not make decisions of a magnitude that would change much of anything in society.

The younger generation is equally perplexed because they have little money, status, or power, and are also working a job or three, waiting to start a family perhaps, and have often given up on retiring someday.

Everyone has been fed a steady diet of fabricated hopelessness, dysfunction, and outrage from the media for decades.

Only a few will realize the whole ‘generation’ thing is fabricated to keep you distracted. Who benefits from the scapegoating, infighting, and status quo? Someone is driving it, and benefiting from it, but it is not you.

Vote dammit

Quexotic ,

Exactly. Also, It’s being used as a marketing cohort and therefore to be despised and reviled. In this lexicon, you are the product.

Also, vote, dammit. Unite.

whydudothatdrcrane ,

Pew Research Center recently commented on this pewresearch.org/…/how-pew-research-center-will-re…

The field has been flooded with content that’s often sold as research but is more like clickbait or marketing mythology. There’s also been a growing chorus of criticism about generational research and generational labels in particular.

kaffiene ,

Generation gaps are another great way of getting the plebs fighting each other rather than the people who actually run things (capitalists)

kaffiene ,

I’m gen X. I definitely feel that Boomers are from a different world. I felt we got a shit deal but that just got worse for millenials then gen Z. To me, I feel like I can relate to generations that followed me. They’re pissed off and they should be.

Adderbox76 ,

GEN X. The best gen.

We were nihilists long before the internet proved us right.

Plus we gave you grunge. You’re welcome.

pedka OP ,
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well nirvana is my favorite band

MummifiedClient5000 ,

I saw Nirvana in '92. It was nothing special, sorry.

pedka OP ,
@pedka@lemmy.ml avatar

what bands do you like then?

MummifiedClient5000 ,

I do like Nirvana, which only embiggens the disappointment. I saw Pearl Jam on the same festival and they were awesome.

Last month I saw Beth Gibbons (Portishead singer), Metallica twice and went to the Copenhell metal festival (saw too many bands there to mention). This morning I bought tickets to The Flaming Lips. Tonight I’ll be seeing Rammstein. Tomorrow a one-day ticket to the Roskilde Festival with the wife, where I’ll be seeing PJ Harvey, Myrkur, probably Jane’s Addiction and then whatever.

I guess that is a pretty good representation of my taste in music and also an explanation of why I’m broke.

pedka OP ,
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thats pretty darn cool

MajorHavoc ,

I appreciate your perfectly cromulent use of the word “embiggens”, here.

MummifiedClient5000 ,
foofiepie ,

Thanks for taking me on a search journey… to appreciate Beth, and Portishead beyond Dummy. Please do recommend any specific highlights. I’ll be going through their (and her) albums now.

MummifiedClient5000 ,

She has only released two albums (there could some she collabbed on that I’m not aware of): Beth Gibbons and Rustin Man - Out of Season and her recent solo album Lives Outgrown.

It’s not as dark as Portishead and the music is more minimalistic, some of it may be closer to acoustic/folk, but she sings beautifully. If you get the chance to see her live, you should go. During the concert they covered a single Portishead song and the tears were literally streaming down my face.

Another tip: If you like Portishead, you should also give the Goldfrapp album Felt Mountain a listen.

Adderbox76 ,

No need to apologise. You’re allowed to be wrong.

– In case it’s not clear, that’s a joke. I feel like “smart ass” needs a tag like sarcasm has (/s).

MummifiedClient5000 ,

It’s not really a controversial opinion that they were often awful live. This particular concert (and their only concert ever in Denmark) can be found on Youtube.

Wirlocke , (edited )

I’m early Gen Z with a kinda poor family. So I had CRT’s and old VHS but also grew up on the internet.

I feel an extreme gap between me and people a few years younger. I graduated in 2018 so I was some of the last people to have a traditional highschool experience. Before Covid, Zoom, and Chatgpt.

I also mostly grew up with computers instead of phones so Im only just now getting into TikTok, I’ll likely never truly revolve around it like many others (both older and younger than me).

lichtmetzger ,

Im only just now getting into TikTok

Please don’t, for your own health’s sake. There is nothing of value on that platform.

Buddahriffic ,

There’s plenty of value on there! For the CCP, but still.

Draegur ,

Elder millennial here. Born in 1985.

The millennials watched several thousand people die on live television when we were kids and then everything went downhill from there. I was in high school in September 2001. Old enough to just barely understand what was happening, too young to do jack shit about it. Frightened, we looked to guidance from our Gen-X and Boomer teachers and elders. They told us to sit down, shut up, do as we were told, and everything would be fine. By and large, we did. By and large, nothing, not one fucking thing, ended up fine.

I say this to illustrate that this is why, and how, we are the DOOMER generation. We got piled on with the baggage and bondage of manipulation and lies from the Boomers who climbed the social ladder and then pulled it up behind them, and their Gen-X toadies who rode their coattails half way up hoping they wouldn’t get noticed and shaken off to land back down here in the dirt with the rest of us.

And the thing that sets the Zoomers apart is that you witnessed this happening, every single crucial step of the betrayal from every authority figure from the president on down to the homeroom teacher, and by gods… You Learned.

Zoomers, in my view, seem to possess a preternatural hyper-awareness that any promise made by anyone who has something they can take from you is good for nothing. Some people say “Zoomers don’t give a shit” like it’s supposed to be an insult. HA. No. I see what’s really happening. They’re jealous. Giving a shit was a mistake. It was a mistake we Doomers made. And I am pleased, if not in awe, when I see Zoomers not falling for the bait. You have largely withdrawn yourselves from the rat race, and now it’s running out of rats. Maybe now those fucking rats can finally starve holed up and isolated in their mazes. You, meanwhile, may very well build a better way to live. And whether or not I get to participate, I love to see it.

Go get 'em, Zoomers.

pedka OP , (edited )
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dunno man. maybe that hyper-awarness shit is true, but i am overwhelmed by it. i fucking hate this government, the bullshit that they feed us, the lies, the invigilation, all of it. it makes me sick. this world sucks so fucking much and i feel pretty hopeless about it, which is infuriating. i wish i was born earlier

Draegur ,

Tell you something homie:

Having no hope is, in my opinion, better than having false hope. You aren’t waiting around for some external savior to recognize that you’re struggling and swoop in to rescue you. You know that anything you get will arrive to you only by clawing it from the cold dead hands of the elders.

Yeah it sounds bleak but realize this: THEY don’t know that.

THEY, those fucking parasite boomers in their ivory towers, think you’re just like the millennial doomers who will roll over obediently and then do no worse than look sad and make sad noises when we get cheated ALL OVER AGAIN.

When they turned their back on US, we stayed docile, simpering, begging. When they turn their back on YOU, you are going to stab them thirty six times, slash their throats, and dig out their organs with a shiv fashioned out of one of their precious participation trophies, and eat them raw and howling.

… Or at least some of you will. And I for one hope that when it starts happening, we doomers will either stay out of the way, or for ONCE in our FUCKING LIVES stand up to protect you from the death throes of the worst generation.

You have it in you. It’s growing. Keep feeding it.

Zangoose ,

I’m also Gen Z and this was me for a while as well. Something that really helped me is not focusing as much on all of the million things going wrong that are way out of my control, and taking smaller steps wherever I can to try to make things better. That shift in perspective has made a lot of things more manageable and less overwhelming even if I still ultimately have the same negative outlook on everything that’s going on right now.

Today ,

Yes, watching people die on tv does sound much worse than being drafted for Vietnam or living with the daily thought that Russia had a bomb and we could all die any day.

Draegur ,

NOBODY WAS DRAFTED INTO VIETNAM WHEN THEY WERE FUCKING TWELVE DIPSHIT

AND, MOTHER FUCKER, YOU DO NOT GET TO INSINUATE THAT THE “DUCK AND COVER” CARTOONS WERE SOMEHOW MORE TRAUMATIZING THAN CODE GRAY DRILLS, LET ALONE SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY EXPERIENCING ACTUAL FUCKING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

FUCK. OFF. IN. HELL.

at least Vietnam veterans could afford a fucking home when they got back

You know what, STAY fucked off. I don’t need filth like you in my feed. BLOCKED.

AnarchistArtificer ,

I’m on the cusp of genZ and Millennial, but I feel much more Millennial. I speculate that this is because of how I related to technology growing up.

I’d be interested to hear from anyone who is like me, on the cusp, but feels gen Z rather than Millennial, and why

Silentiea ,
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That might be me. I’m a millennial by age, but I have always been keeping up with the newer tech. My father worked for Microsoft so we always had the new stuff as soon as it was available. And I’m a weirdo little autistic trans girl, so I didn’t really socialize that much with my own age group even when it was an option.

Alice ,

'93, younger end of millennial.

Not big on generation labels though, they feel like a failed experiment. People are born every day of every year and our experiences overlap in a gradient. They don’t separate into distinct portions.

The baby boom was an actual phenomenon, but every label afterwards feels arbitrary.

Silentiea ,
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I agree that it’s not a useful metric to apply to an individual. “Ok boomer” aside, there is too much variation within a generation for it to be a useful way to draw any conclusions about a single person.

Where generations are useful is in demography. There is no strict dividing line between a lot of kids of demographics, but categorizing them can still give us useful data for studying populations

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