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What are your experiences with the Mandela Effect?

See title. For those who don’t know, the Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where a large group of people remember something differently than how it occurred. It’s named after Nelson Mandela because a significant number of people remembered him dying in prison in the 1980s, even though he actually passed away in 2013.

I’m curious to hear about your personal experiences with this phenomenon. Have you ever remembered an event, fact, or detail that turned out to be different from reality? What was it and how did you react when you found out your memory didn’t align with the facts? Does it happen often?

paddirn ,

The Berenstein Bears one and the Fruit of the Loom not having a horn are the ones that have me questioning reality and my childhood.

Jaytreeman ,

I vaguely remember noticing the fruit of the loom logo change which makes it weirder for me

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, that’s definitely the one that I have going on for me. Life is weird.

meekah , (edited )
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

Edit: The proof I mentioned is just 2 images of shirts with the cornucopia in the logo. I’m not so sure anymore about what I said previously.

Its proven that there was a cone in the logo, the company is just acring like that for marketing reasons

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Link?

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

here’s an old article mentioning the cornucopia: imgur.com/a/Au42qr8

but reading some more about it, it seems like my previous comment is actually false. There are also 2 images of shirts with the cornucopia, which convinced me eaelier, but that’s only 2 images against a mountain of evidence.

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is the one that my 🧠 still won’t let go.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

yeah my dad always used to buy the fruit of the loom sweatpants for us, and I’m pretty sure I saw that cornucopia. but it really seems we are mistaken. brains generally are a pretty shit source of information, after all.

patman9 ,

Same here. It had the cornucopia. Then it didn’t. “weird” I thought. Then 5 to 10 years later I was reading the hunger games and needed to look up what a cornucopia actually was. “a horn usually containing fruit - oh - like the fruit of the loom logo” Then 2 years ago learning it never existed at all, and we all hallucinated it, there have even been paradies of it. It’s fucking weird.

EssentialCoffee ,

omg… but…but… I… I remember the logo… changing… oh god.

Berenstein is classic though.

hactar42 ,

There is a theory that the Fruit of the Loom one is actually a viral marketing thing. Like the company scrubbed it on purpose and is playing into it to build brand recognition.

deadbeef79000 ,

A witch turned me into a newt.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

Glad you got better.

tkk13909 ,

Maybe he didn’t…

Varyk ,

I just found out that you can’t take someone’s lead in order to behave like they are behaving, you can only follow their lead.

I thought that taking someone’s lead, “I’m taking their lead”, is an actual expression, while apparently it is not.

Mechanismatic ,
@Mechanismatic@lemmy.ml avatar

Taking someone’s lead sounds like a British saying indicating the opposite of following someone’s lead. It sounds like you’re taking someone’s leash in your hands and directing them where to go.

Varyk ,

I’m not sure, but that makes sense.

I’ll have to take your lead on that.

indun ,

“Take the lead” is certainly an expression used in the UK to denote guiding people, as in “I’ll take the lead”. I assume both come from ballroom dancing.

I’m sure it’s used elsewhere but it may also simply be a conflation of the two.

Varyk ,

Yeah, taking the lead I think is a pretty common expression, meaning that you’ll take the initiative, but I’ve used " taking their lead" to mean that another person has taken the lead and someone else is following them.

Which is apparently not real at all, but I only became aware of this because another Lemmy put up a TIL post that explained how they thought that was an expression and discovered after using it their entire life that it was not in any dictionary.

Just like me

twice_twotimes ,

It may not be the original idiom, but it’s definitely something people say. If the core expressions are “(I) take the lead” and “(you) follow my lead,” that lends itself easily to a merge: you take my lead. It’s not as common as the originals but it’s definitely out there. It will stick around because it’s really easy to unambiguously infer what it means in context.

Varyk ,

I agree that it’s used, I’m sure that if we looked in movie scripts or novels, we would find examples of that phrase, but I can’t find a single dictionary that agrees that the phrase is a legitimate phrase, and that’s what really boggled my mind.

Boggled and boondoggled over here.

isyasad ,
@isyasad@lemmy.world avatar

Just looked up “take my lead” on playphrase.me to check, it shows up in a couple movies, even a Star Wars.

Varyk ,

“Take his lead” is on there too in a couple movies, nice.

Thanks, that’s a cool site I’ve never heard of.

xmunk ,

I remember there was an AskLemmy question on the Mandela effect, but a week later we all realized it was just a dream.

lyth ,

I’m contacting you from an alternate timeline to tell you that I’m still angry

xmunk ,

Did your timeline manage to fuck up covid less? How do I immigrate? What stocks should I buy?

clmbmb ,

Who the fuck remembers Mandela dying in prison??? The man was resilience itself!

essellburns ,

Enough people that there’s this effect named after this happening

Shalakushka ,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

Like 12 idiots on the Internet who then decided to never shut the fuck up about it.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

I know!

He was constantly in the papers in the 1990s, major figure, every mac madra knew he was alive, where do they get this shite.

JCPhoenix ,
@JCPhoenix@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, I never understood that either. He was the president of South Africa from 1994-1999. Yes, he kept a lower profile in the 2000s, but I remember even as a kid/teen seeing articles and photos of him in the news. Bizarre.

Now the Berenstain Bears one, I understand. At the same time, I just chalk that up to spelling. For what reason would I need to know how to spell “Berenstain?”

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Now the Berenstain Bears one, I understand. At the same time, I just chalk that up to spelling. For what reason would I need to know how to spell “Berenstain?”

I had one like this where I was shocked to learn there was never a band called Chumbawumba; they are called Chumbawamba and have been all along.

JCPhoenix ,
@JCPhoenix@beehaw.org avatar

Next you’re gonna tell me their hit album was called “Tabthamping” instead of “Tubthumping!” Where does it end?!

Honestly though, I thought the same!

SwingingTheLamp ,

Probably confusion with Steve Biko explains it.

pelletbucket ,

US History doesn’t like to focus on men like him

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