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unmagical ,

Like once, but generally naw.

protist ,

If two cars from one of the queues go through without letting someone in, then the pattern just resumes right after that

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

extensively. daily. anyone who picks up their kid at school inevitably has to flow through several.
its generally not a problem unless someone isnt paying attention, or just being an ass.

andrew ,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I want to start keeping some bumper magnets in my car for the latter category. Like that guy who tossed them onto shopping cart abandoners. Really gets me grumpy when people just zip in without zippering.

paysrenttobirds ,

I see it all the time I think, but maybe my standards are low. Often what I see the traffic isn’t quite equal in both lanes, so it’s not abab, but people see the guy ahead find a space and they pick a space behind the next car and so on. It’s there more to it? Like if someone doesn’t get it, you just continue the zipper behind them, right?

pelespirit OP ,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

It doesn’t flow well, it’s more of a stop and start.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I think a lot of it is regional. In big city-center-compacted cities it works well, NYC being a great example. In suburbs it's sort of sloppy or depends on the area. In sprawling everyone-in-SUV-8-lane-highway cities, places like LA or Houston, it's an absolutely hopeless shit show of selfishness.

I have theories on why it's that way, but all I really know is that's what I have observed.

nokturne213 ,

I think it is the law in PA, but it is at the very least, posted to use both lanes to merge point and then alternate. It worked well in my experience. It was quite a shock when i moved to Maryland and merging was so lawless.

ISometimesAdmin ,
@ISometimesAdmin@the.coolest.zone avatar

As a Bay area native, I've never encountered worse drivers than the entire state of Maryland.

nokturne213 ,

Bumper to bumper traffic moving at 80+ mph on the Baltimore beltway is something else.

Uvine_Umbra ,

In Georgia? 75% chance it works

In Florida? 0% chance of yes

ares35 ,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

florida man: looks down. pulls. "yup. it's merged."

LadyLikesSpiders ,

Floridian here confirming that 0%

BiggestBulb ,
@BiggestBulb@kbin.run avatar

In Atlanta it's like a -55% chance it works

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve never seen a zipper merge work in high traffic, but I have seen “right lane ends” work more-or-less fine. Same effect, but people on the right lane drivers are a bit more likely to yield which makes people in the left lane slightly more likely to make room.

We’re often not a smart species.

willya ,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Not where I am. There’s a huge gap between 90mphers and 45mphers. An absurd amount of people don’t even understand entering a highway at highway speed or exiting one as well as long as the exit ramp is long enough.

Talaraine ,
@Talaraine@kbin.social avatar

Honestly this is one of the few things that have improved in driving over the years. There's still the occasional douchecanoe who rides in between both lanes to keep anyone from getting by, but that is now the exception as far as I've seen.

joshfee ,

When 99% of traffic has already formed a single lane then the guy trying to go past a bunch of people and cause an extra unnecessary merge is the asshole and I'm not letting him by.

Corkyskog ,

That used to be my old daily commute. Everyone had already “zipped up” were now in a bumper to bumper column, yet people just fly down the right and then cutoff the whole column to get in. Delaying everyone. Anytime I bring up this “problem” I am told it’s actually not a problem, it’s the way it’s supposed to work, and apparently I am the asshole for complaining about 2 dozen people cutting me off every morning, before I can move past one choke point.

pelespirit OP ,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

I might be wrong about this, but I think you’re supposed to wait until the last minute to zipper merge. That way, everyone gets the benefit of it.

Talaraine ,
@Talaraine@kbin.social avatar

This is correct.

Corkyskog ,

Idk about any of it. All I know is after they redid the highway and made those two lanes merge at that point, there is now a 10-15 minute backup, when previously traffic in that area was hit or miss. If there is actual traffic it can take almost 30 minutes to go through that one point.

And the trucks are so darn fed up with it that they just block off the end of the lane end now, as they can get caught cutoff by cars for seemingly endless time, they become sitting ducks.

Gabadabs ,
@Gabadabs@kbin.social avatar

I feel like it's hit-or-miss. A lot of people will zipper merge, but a lot of other people don't care and mess things up.

AngryishHumanoid ,

I’ve gotten into some very amusing fights online about the difference between merge and yield, some people are just assholes when it comes to driving and refuse to accept they might be doing something wrong.

PowerCrazy ,

Yes zipper merging happens, but ultimately in any kind of traffic flow situation it only takes one person to fuck it up. Instead of being reactionary and blaming “bad drivers,” try to take a step back and realize that a transportation system that relies on millions of individual actors, having perfect information and behaving rationally is hopelessly flawed, regardless of the nationality of the drivers.

corsicanguppy ,

Never. It’s fundamentally flawed.

OceanSoap ,

Yes, I see it happen successfully every day on my way home from work.

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