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Fiivemacs ,

Capitalism is like Dog-strangling vine or swallowroot

SteveFromMySpace ,

Why would I download a toilet?

over_clox ,

I usually flush my downloads…

Fosheze ,

BRB, gotta upload some content to the series of tubes.

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

A toilet is useful.

Why would I download a concert filled Porta-potty?

WatDabney ,

This is just the latest in a long string. Spez has demonstrated repeatedly throughout the years that he’s an entitled cretin - equal parts smug and ignorant.

My personal favorite was when he snidely commented on Reddit’s unprofitability in his AMA after the API debacle, making it sound as if it was somehow our fault, only to then not only have it made common knowledge that the official app was useless garbage and had been for years, but that the entirety of Reddit’s loss for the year was just about exactly equal to his salary alone.

SimplyChad ,
@SimplyChad@lemmy.world avatar

Come to Lemmy for the hatred of Spez’s actionsStay for the certainty he’ll do it again

flicker ,

There was a while there where people were constantly coming to Lemmy to talk about reddit and I just… couldn’t give a fuck.

I feel like it might be an age thing. Those of us on the internet since the 90s are somewhat used to being digital nomads.

Apepollo11 ,

We’ve seen empires burn to the ground so many times before.

N0body ,

I love that I don’t care about Reddit news anymore. “Spez made a new sub you have to suck his dick to join.” Don’t care. Haven’t in a long time.

Kaavi ,

I’m glad you have not sucked his dick in a long time 🥳

leisesprecher ,

What’s really baffling to me is that a bunch of nerds with too much free time on their hands basically stomped out a fully fledged Reddit alternative within a few months, including multiple frontends and apps.

Yet Reddit spends millions on development every year, for no discernable improvement whatsoever, while still turning no profit.

Where is all that money going? Seriously, Reddit is a very simple site. There’s nothing that hard about it. The amount of data is tiny, since the content is external, none of the resources are that time critical, a lot of content can be cached.

What are the devs doing all day?

gwen ,

stomped out a fully fledged Reddit alternative within a few months, including multiple frontends and apps.

what/who are you referring to? the reddit ceo or reddit users?

april ,

They are referring to the lemmy developers

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

The confusion for me was that when I stomp something out, it dies. That’s not the intended verb here, but context clues alone do not a language make.

Tudsamfa ,

Mistranslation of the German Idiom “(etwas) aus dem Boden Stampfen”, to create (something) from nothing (lit. to stomp (something) out of the ground).

Easy mistake for bilinguals to make, I was convinced it was an English Idiom as well until I looked it up.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks! I have a fondness for German idiom. “The devil shits on the biggest pile” might be my favourite.

leisesprecher ,

Where exactly do you think you’re writing this?

Elgenzay ,
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https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/a4519a58-5514-43e5-942b-1ff59e29fafa.png

abbadon420 ,

That’s it!. I’m going to rewatch Scrubs

Johanno ,

Lemmy wasn’t made in a few months. However development increased a lot once the api war started.

yourgodlucifer ,

Lemmy existed before reddits downfall

Frozyre ,

What's really baffling to me is that a bunch of nerds with too much free time on their hands basically stomped out a fully fledged Reddit alternative within a few months, including multiple frontends and apps.

Oh so you've noticed that too? Yeah I thought Lemmy was going to be the difference maker too, the leader of alternative and the breakaway from Reddit. But I've got a bit of a conspiracy theory, I truly think a lot of shitty Reddit users got together and jumped on Lemmy to take a massive dump on it just to ruin it for everyone.

I mean you could tell in moments. The downvote brigading. The report spamming. The snarky responses. Meme-esque posts everywhere. Yeah this was not Lemmy behavior, this was Reddit behavior and it got out of control.

What did the Lemmy mods/admins do about it? Almost nothing.

So now we're in a place of the Fediverse where Lemmy has been fucked up, KBin.social is dead (or in a comatose state since it's still somehow up) and what we have left now are scattering the users.

Donjuanme ,

You mean stamped out, stomped implies extinguishing, stamped means mass production of some sort.

orcrist ,

The ideas leading to Lemmy go back at least a decade, that I can remember. There are many little things that people figured out when developing distributed federated social media networks of this type. It’s a success story of collaboration over a long time with a shared goal of making Reddit and Twitter easy to replace with a superior product.

echodot ,

I’m surprised that nobody has tried to turn Facebook into a distributed service or perhaps they have and I just haven’t noticed.

I’m not really interested in a Twitter alternative as I never really used the original. But I would like a less shitty Facebook.

If somebody could basically just make Google plus again, but then actually let people use it, that would be great.

Grappling7155 ,

Diaspora exists, but it’s small

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

Where is all that money going?

spez’s bank account. when they did the IPO, it was revealed pretty much half their income went to his salary alone. or something along these lines.

davidgro ,

If they had just done the obvious thing and made ad-free 3rd party API access depend on a subscription fee, then I would have just paid it and wouldn’t be here. But no, they have to do everything the worst way possible.

Azzu ,

Wait I don’t understand, didn’t they do exactly that? Just the pricing was outrageous

davidgro ,

No, they are charging the app devs instead of the users directly (who would then be free to use Any app, and the apps would have remained as they were: ad-supported or paid or whatever)

AVengefulAxolotl ,

To this day I still dont understand why they didnt do it this way.

Oh well, at least now we are on a platform which has a future.

Reddit being on the stock market… Like what the actual fuck…

Arbiter ,

This really goes to show he has no clue how to monetize Reddit.

Frozyre ,

Dude, the fucker has no clue how to RUN reddit much less monetize it.

He's the only clown running the entire circus. He's allowed the inmates run the asylum for years, he's allowed small-dicked neckbeard mods with too much time on their hands to power. He's been pushing out anybody that has a brain. He's made a killing on exploiting the vulnerable (if you're someone with mental issues, the last place you want to be is on Reddit with how much they don't give a shit about privacy on there. Please go elsewhere for your sake.).

He's scrubbed the existence of Aaron Swartz, he's made the other co-founder irrelevant. No, this is Spez just being a power-hungry fuckwad and it's showing.

orcrist ,

He wants money and power. If he’s getting those, then he’s getting what he wants. We all know that Reddit was and is overvalued. Several of the things Reddit has done in the past year or two guarantee that it won’t be around in the long run, and perhaps not in the medium run. But if he can get his power and money now, he wins.

Many of us actually use social media in part because we value the community. But some people are greedy jerks and they just don’t care, and it doesn’t matter what you say to them because their values are unfriendly.

veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

Good, bury reddit.

mormund ,

Wasn’t there always a pay-walled subreddit, made by the community? I think you had to have had gold/premium to get invited.

Noodle07 ,

The lounge, don’t worry it wasn’t interesting

Annoyed_Crabby ,

Didn’t they also already scrape that when they rebrand “gilding” to multi-tier award? Idk it’s been years since i first got into there.

Noodle07 ,

🤷

Frozyre ,

Yes. I remember being there for like a week long I guess because I managed to make a post that did well enough to attract someone to gild or give me some subscription time.

And like someone else already said, it wasn't that spectacular because The Lounge was just basically people shitposting. But they're shit-posting as subscribers so it wasn't anything you didn't already see without it.

greywolf0x1 ,

Is there a way to fully download or scrape a full subreddit or say stackoverflow since they’ve both committed themselves to enshittification and alienating their userbases?

asking because that seems difficult to do and there’s a lot of useful information on both sites

jjagaimo ,

Its not super hard, but the main hurdle will by bypassing whatever api limits there are such as by using multiple accounts

Certain libraries like praw still work to some extent (my discord bot is still running somehow) but trying to scrape all of the posts in a sub might have to be done slowly. You might be able to sort by old so that the results dont move relative to the page and then go page by page.

hellfire103 ,

*laughs in Lemmy

fmstrat ,

I’ll say this here, too: Based on the phrasing, this is probably competition for Patreon, not for current styled subreddits.

runner_g ,

And OnlyFans

julysfire ,
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I used Reddit for 12 years, which granted, isn’t as long as some others, but it is really sad to see what it has become after all these years. It helped a lot back in the day, but now it is time to let it go.

Tyfud ,

Same. It’s a part of life though. At least as long as we’re living in a capitalist nightmare.

Blaze ,

Welcome!

Donjuanme ,

I hopped on Reddit the week before the Digg migration happened. I’m not sure how I really took in the Internet before that (lolcats and wimp mostly), but I remember nearly the exact moment it happened. I’d never heard of Digg before that. I’d barely heard of Reddit.

It’s not the same as it was back then, and I’m very happy to be done with it. Fuck spez/Steve Huffman, that piece of shit burned everything to the ground to enrich himself and piss on the community.

aquinteros ,

it was sad for me too. I haven’t looked back since they banned 3rd party apps, it was time to let it go

julysfire ,
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Since they killed RIF, in the shittest way possible, my usage went down significantly. I still miss RIF

aquinteros ,

I don’t use it out of hate towards the official app… I will never download it, I deleted my account also

echodot ,

A lot of the apps now support Lemmy. I’m using boost and it’s basically like nothing has changed.

echodot ,

The third party app ban was doubly stupid because not only did it piss people off but then they replaced all of those apps with something that didn’t work properly. Even if you didn’t care about third party apps all that much you cared that the only option you now had was terrible.

MonkderVierte ,

Download? Rightclick “Examine this frame”, copy&paste, pandoc to markdown, is what i do.

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