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NatakuNox , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases
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Duo was the worst phone I ever owned. It was atrocious.

Pxtl , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases
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I like strange tech. I owned a Pebble. I drive a PHEV. I had a phone with a side-slider keyboard way after it stopped being cool. I bought a Moto Z for the Moto Mods. I have a bin full of strange old input peripherals for the PC, like a SpaceOrb I bought for Descent. I still own a Sega Dreamcast. I’m on my third bone-conducting headset.

I like weird gear. I am in the target market for companies making weird gear.

I have no interest in this folding crap.

TurnItOff_OnAgain ,

Man. I really miss my pebble. It was prefect for me. Android wear is a bit much, and the fitbits are not quite enough. I’m dealing with a MI band for now, but I would kill for a new pebble.

gelberhut ,
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Folding becomes mainstream, so you will love it…but later 😉

keeb420 , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases

That's because no one wants a decade old concept, the currier, that was only released to compete with actual folding phones.

philluminati , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

Uber has never turned a profit for 14 years. I’m guessing it’s windows central who is facing bankruptcy, intellectually speaking.

TehPers ,
philluminati ,

It did indeed.

BelieveRevolt , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy
andscape ,

Me when I start seeing sickoposting in my default Lemmy comms

sicko-yes

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Facky ,

Ad bots on Lemmy? Lol

codepengu1n , to technology in [❓] ChatGPT's fate hangs in the balance as OpenAI reportedly edges closer to bankruptcy

If Twitter ran for decades on a loss, so will OpenAI. Worst case scenario they get completely absorbed by MS and have the bill footed by them. Kind of what happened with Youtube.

worfamerryman ,

One of the reasons tech companies were able to operate for a long time at a loss was due to interest rates being really low.

I think the increased interest rates are the reason for twitter, reddit, and other companies trying to monetize harder.

I could be wrong, I am not an economist. This is just the kind of stuff, I have read in other subs.

codepengu1n ,

That’s definitely part of the truth. However, something as valuable as OpenAI would still be worth paying for for some tech giant that can afford it.

SmoothIsFast ,

Maybe before they just decided they could make it bigger without much refinement and now have a completely shit system that’s just a glorified chat bot with a high ego to assert its false knowledge.

codepengu1n ,

I don’t think that’s true. Maybe ChatGPT is a glorified chatbot, but their GPT-4 stuff is pretty good.

SmoothIsFast ,

Gpt 4 is more convincing without any less hallucinations, it’s not better its worse due to that fact.

justalittleguy , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases

Definitely a failure on Microsoft’s part that will make anyone wary of trying the inevitable foldable and slab phones they’ll release. You don’t have to declare a Duo 3 is coming or anything right now, but you have to say that you’re supporting the device that came out less than 2 years ago.

Apeeksiht , to android in Microsoft won’t say if Surface Duo is getting any more Android OS releases

Do they have anything successful besides windows which even getting bad light due to privacy relates stuffs.

Back in 2011 I had Lumia 710. that device performed exceptionally well compared to Android alternatives but Microsoft fuvked it up by going apple way , making everything closed source, free games on Android were paid on windows phone os.

itsmikeyd ,

Xbox, SQL Server, Azure. Plenty of stuff tbh.

autotldr Bot , to pcgaming in The top 7 Xbox and PC games I saw at Gamescom 2023 - windowscentral.com

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Towerborne absolutely nails its premise, set in a cataclysmic, but hopeful world where a mysterious event has left the realm with only one safe place: the Belfry.

A weighty, tactile weapon feel accompanies a variety of loot, build opportunities, and deep skill expression to make this my unexpected game of the show.

The CGI trailer is set on some kind of barren planet, where an army of seeming clones toils in a large space vehicle that looks like a giant hamster wheel.

I’ll have a full preview up in the coming weeks, but Endless Dungeon was every bit as infectious as Towerborne, with tight combat, satisfying tower defence gameplay, and vibrant visuals.

I think the build I played for ARA was missing some optimization and even some animations since combat events were just fireballs instead of the grand melees we saw from the game’s various trailers, but the underlying gameplay was incredibly exciting, with infectious complexity rammed with opportunities to get creative.

There were tons of other games I saw at the show, including Stalker 2, Sonic Superstars, Persona 5 Tactica, and others, and I’m working on previews and content for a lot of these in the coming weeks (after my tentative Starfield review… whew).


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autotldr Bot , to technology in Microsoft cuts ties with the Surface Duo after just 2 Android version updates

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Microsoft is done supporting the original Surface Duo, three years after it first launched on September 10.

The company has stated from the very start that the Surface Duo would receive just three years of OS updates, meaning today is the last day that Microsoft has to stay true to its word.

Going forward, Microsoft will no longer ship new OS updates or security patches for the original Surface Duo, meaning Android 12L is the last version of the OS it will ever officially receive.

Surface Duo only ever got two major OS updates, one shy of the average three that most high-end flagship Android devices get these days.

Microsoft hasn’t been working on new features or bug fixes for Surface Duo in months anyway, so it’s not like current Surface Duo users are going to be missing out on much outside of security patches.

Plus, with support for third-party ROMs, enthusiasts can install a custom version of Android 13/14 on their devices.


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lemann , to technology in Microsoft cuts ties with the Surface Duo after just 2 Android version updates

That’s going to hurt any kind of confidence users have for Microsoft-designed mobile devices going forward IMO.

A bit of a shame since the Duo was a pretty nice looking device

BobKerman3999 ,

Buying into Microsoft’s word is like buying into Google’s: if it’s not in the product, it won’t be coming. I got burnt by wp7->wp8 and then again when they closed wp8 without reason. I’m not counting on them staying on the smartphone market long enough to establish themselves.

TheFerrango ,

Same, but I also imported a Zune all the way over Europe because of course I liked it

BrandonMatrick ,

They stuck to their word, technically. 3 years, with monthly patches for security, on a device that sold abysmally. There are rumors they sold (most of) the first run of SD2 in the first 4 months, and didn’t bother to produce any more. I know they’ve been out of the consumer SD2 since July/August of 2022- as of January this year, not even my Fortune 50 Corpo clients can get MSFT to pony up a SD2 replacement under warranty or otherwise. They just write a cheque to your account if you request as much.

Microsoft’s mobile team Icarus flew too close to the poorly advertised sun, in this case. Expensive ass phone to build, expensive ass phone to buy, but damn it’s a great device.

BrandonMatrick , to technology in Microsoft cuts ties with the Surface Duo after just 2 Android version updates

As one of the 17 people on the planet who daily drives the Surface Duo 2, which I traded up from my SD1 for on launch day - I really hope they pull it together for this “maybe/maybe not” SD3 next winter.

This is my all time favorite device I’ve ever owned, and every day I dread the standard wear and tear knowing the few New In Box Surface Duo 2 devices are getting more and more expensive by the day, and there are literally 0 devices in this category besides the SD2.

Sad times.

3l3s3 ,

What category would that be, put of curiosity?

BrandonMatrick ,

Pocketable, foldable tablet with split displays, a pen with haptic feedback and rigid glass screens for stylus use without damage. Modern Android and a great camera don’t hurt and those make the SD2 better than the SD1; otherwise they’re fairly similar besides the accessory compatibility and some halo functions like wirelessly charging my Slim Pen with the magnet case.

I travel a ton, edit spreadsheets at clients site visits and trade shows while I have Teams open on the other screen, and use the stylus to mark up PDFs for architects and subcontractors. I enjoy being almost required to multi-task when I have my phone open, and the Duo 2 is the best phone for multitasking, bar-none.

medgremlin ,

I treat mine more like a dual screen setup than a fold-able setup. As far as I’ve seen, none of the other folding phones work like that and my entire device ecosystem is tied together through OneDrive, so having it natively on the phone is awesome.

3l3s3 ,

Ah yes, I forgot that this has actual screens unlike most other foldables. Thanks for the sad reminder.

thorbot ,

The one where it’s abandoned 2 years after it’s released. Fuck that

Kit ,

I moved from the SD1 to the Samsung Fold and love it.

BrandonMatrick ,

I’ve been considering the GFold5 if my SD2 bites the dust, at least over a Pixel Fold. But I’m making this thing run until it completely dies.

I just worry about those plastic feeling screens, such as on my wife’s GFlex4- I’m always worried I’d scratch the interior with a fingernail and a stylus for editing a spreadsheet is just a no go, from what I understand. Have they improved in that regard?

big_slap ,

I upgraded from the fold 2 to the fold 5, specifically for the pen support. the screen does feel more durable but it is still soft. I don’t fear the pen scratching it though.

I will say, there have been many times I’ve taken the pen to draw something on the cover screen and get disappointed there’s no support for a pen on the cover screen. maybe the fold 6 will?

Kit ,

I haven’t had any issues with the inner screen and it doesn’t feel soft to me. I didn’t even put a protector on it. I do pay for the extra Samsung insurance every month, tho.

nexas_XIII ,

I bought a SD1 a year ago to use as my work phone. Not for emails and IM clients, but mainly as a secondary prepaid phone that work gets the number for if I’m on call. It’s been awesome and has also been a great little ebook reader. I’m kinda sad there are no more updates but I know I didn’t use it to it’s full capabilities.

LEDZeppelin , to technology in Microsoft cuts ties with the Surface Duo after just 2 Android version updates

Zune : Never forget

query ,

Music players in general haven’t been doing well. Phones are too big to be proper replacements for all uses.

havokdj ,

They’re doing pretty good, they just aren’t a huge market like they used to be. It is a niche market nowadays.

Typically you only see people buying one for one of three reasons:

  1. They cannot have a phone/do not want a phone
  2. They want to separate music listening from their source of contact (getting a phone call forces you from the music)
  3. They chase higher fidelity audio (only the case with quality DAPs)

4 (bonus). Phone has no headphone jack, but that’s usually only the case in conjunction with 3

query ,

I still use my 2016 SE despite having a never phone. But I need pockets to carry that around, custom fit pockets if I want to be able to run with it without it being obstructive, because of how big even that old phone is.

ours ,

3 and 4 can be fixed with a portable USB DAC/AMP. Lots of options there.

havokdj ,

Try going on a run with one of those. I have them too but they both have their places.

Plus in my experience, DAPs tend to be able to fit bigger amps in them than USB DACs which is good for driving less efficient headphones.

CrypticFawn ,
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Gods I loved my Zune.

If I could find a digital audio player like the Zune but with support for Tidal I’d be so happy.

Killer ,

I know Fiio makes some music players, not sure about Tidal though.

havokdj ,

WM1AM2, though if you’re fine with using Bluetooth streaming (LDAC) on the WM1A I’d recommend getting that and installing walkman one on it instead.

I’d really rather not encourage the android based DAPs, it is good for a phone or tablet, but it makes the DAP part a bigger pain in the ass since they typically do NOT get updates to the base operating system, namely due to the fact that they have to design the audio component from the ground up. Linux based DAPs are a lot better in my experience.

I’ll say that it is easier for me because I download most of my music, but I don’t have any problem streaming from my devices to my WM1A. Keep in mind you’re likely to be within earshot of these devices anyways because a DAP isn’t going to have a sim card, so it either needs WiFi or proximity to a device that does, but the benefit with LDAC is that you have your library accessible from those devices as well.

CrypticFawn ,
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WM1AM2

The price alone makes that a non-start for me, but thank you for the recommendation nonetheless!

havokdj ,

Yeah that’s kinda why I recommended the previous model. The amp is pretty much the same and you can get them on eBay in great condition for about $400. The A55 is also a great choice that can be had for about $150, however if you want something cheaper that can stream, I’d check out the HiBy R3 or R3II

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ll look at those, thank you!

ares35 , to technology in Microsoft cuts ties with the Surface Duo after just 2 Android version updates
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$1200 at launch, three years of updates. no wonder we're burying the planet in e-waste and plastic.

Synthead ,

You know, I don’t disagree with vendors putting whatever hardware they want in their devices, and I don’t mind vendor-customized software. But what I do mind is the barrier of supporting these devices without relying on the vendor.

If I buy an x86 computer, I can use it basically however long I want to. I can put a variety of operating systems on it, and I don’t really need to rely on vendors much aside from binary driver blobs, which isn’t really that much of a problem these days.

I really wish that Android wasn’t so customized per device. I wish I could just install upstream Android on anything that can run it, instead of special binary images for each vendor’s make and model. Android is open source and all, but simply having the sources to work with is the easiest part. Making it actually work is significantly n more difficult.

Imagine buying that aforementioned x86 machine, but you had to run a giant, customized binary blob specifically made for a laptop’s make and model. And you had to throw it away after a few years not because you need more resources, but because you cannot upgrade the OS anymore.

Savaran ,

The reality is that we need laws that force them to either to continue to offer affordable support or publish all the specs and documentation when they drop support. Vendors shouldn’t be allowed to do otherwise.

imgonnatrythis ,

That sounds pretty reasonable. I feel so owned by technology lately. It used to be exciting to have tech that you could decide when you wanted to retire it and focus spending on something new and different that served a different purpose. Now I feel like I’m stuck with all the same basic gadgets but I just need to keep throwing money at them to replace them every few years. It’s about as unexciting as having to spend money on an oil change. I’m pretty primed by this as recently my electric objects picture frame just pulled the plugs on their server recently with no notice and bam, I have a black screen in my living room instead of pictures of my dog, family, and favorite artwork.

Aopen ,
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I wish I could just install upstream Android on anything that can run it, instead of special binary images for each vendor’s make and model.

Why doesnt it work like that though? Combined with mandatory open bootloader it would free people

^pls,eu🥺^

mplewis ,
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Generally, the hardware in a small, power-efficient, SoC embedded device is going to be a lot more particular and a lot less general than your gaming computer’s motherboard. It’s harder to write general OS software for specific integrated systems rather than a big set of chips which provide an individual chip for the BIOS, specialized chips for the PCI ports, etc., all of which have become more standardized over time.

verysoft ,

Yup. All these devices that release, like do we need 6 different iphones every year, 20 different samsung phones, etc.
It's a fucking joke.

gregorum ,

Then stop buying six different iPhones every year and 20 different Samsung phones every year.

verysoft ,

Fuck my bad, can't help myself.

gregorum ,

I get it; it’s very tempting 😛

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