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Blackmist , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Will they?

Or will you just be able to hide them?

stringere ,

Start menu, search suggestions from the start menu. They can be disabled/hidden from view so you may have done so while customizing Windows?

AnxiousDuck , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Adesso è godopoli

Resol , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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I’m moving to the EU.

sndrtj ,

With your username, you’d do great in the Netherlands

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I’m considering going to Flanders instead. I actually made my username like that on purpose.

I don’t think people will like me based on my ethnic background alone, though.

elbarto777 ,

What’s your ethnic background? Kardashian?

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

That’s hilarious.

But no, I’m actually Moroccan. I bet prisons in Western Europe are filled with those.

elbarto777 ,

I know a few Moroccan people living in Europe. They’re doing alright. If you’re a decent person and are willing to learn about the culture that hosts you (without losing your roots, of course), you should do fine.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Duh, that’s what I plan on doing anyway. After all, it’s much easier to live in a different society if you’re already integrated into it.

elbarto777 ,

Nice, Mr. van Lemmy!

Resol ,
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Thanks, mate.

MonkderZweite , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Huh, so not in Switzerland?

ColdWater ,
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I believe Switzerland is not a part of the EU

MonkderZweite , (edited )

Yes, and not on the list. Still, that small country in the center of EU…

MonkderZweite , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

…what happened? Did someone in upper management realize, it would be more expensive to suck?

MashedTech ,

No, it’s because it the EU

MonkderZweite ,

What i said.

deaf_fish ,

No, it’s regulations. Companies are too dumb to save themselves. That’s why they need to get bailed out every once in a while.

lud ,

I think they meant that the fines would be too expensive so they complied.

Matriks404 , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Does this also mean Google will let me uninstall Chrome from my Android device? Or is this only about PC’s?

MashedTech ,

I hope we will get there too. Be able to fully install and uninstall Google services.

deaf_fish ,

I hope the ability to install whatever OS on your phone that you want will become mandated and the default for all cell phones.

daYMAN007 ,

Even if this was allowed. Surely most apps wont run anymore in the name of security

ICastFist ,
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Not really, most OS for phones are android based anyway. Having the choice of an ungoogled android is always a plus, much like many people just want an ungoogled chrome

BearOfaTime ,

This is unenforceable really. Android is a monolithic OS, it’s very architecture would have to be reengineered, and then phone manufacturers would have to design their system drivers to be independent and distributable.

Windows is modular, this comes from the standard BIOS that came out of the bios wars in the 80’s. Having a standard hardware interface enables this.

Phones don’t have this.

gh0stcassette ,
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No it’s not, just mandate unlocked or user-unlockable bootloaders, the open source Android dev community will do the rest. There would be degoogled custom ROMs and full linux (eg Ubuntu touch, postmarketOS, etc.) ports for every reasonably popular device within months.

RaoulDook ,

You can already do that if you buy a phone that is compatible with LineageOS or other open source ROMs.

nudnyekscentryk ,
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I think their point was that all manufacturers should be forced to allow that

RaoulDook ,

Well that would be nice of course, but won’t ever happen because manufacturers are all over the world and there’s no global law or regulation that could enforce that as a requirement.

What I suggested is still the current best option consumers have.

ICastFist ,
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Globally, it’s impossible to force a company to do anything. But, with key markets forcing manufactures to comply, most companies decide to go the “well, i’ll make it so for everyone then” route, as it can be cheaper in the long run.

viking ,
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Chrome browser? I could uninstall that right away.

scrooge101 ,

That’s already possible either by using a custom ROM or by connecting to a PC and using adb.

SasquatchBanana ,

We shouldn’t have to rely on 3rd parties for that.

wookiepedia ,

ADB is very much 1st party.

histic ,

Android debug bridge very 3rd party /s

crypticthree , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Now let me make the start menu normal

Kyoyeou , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Man do I love Europe, so happy our ancestors started this stuff

fne8w2ah , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Brussels Effect at work again.

Asudox , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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This is the first time I saw a post get over 1000 upvotes in 15 hours.

moitoi , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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Regulation works.

Suavevillain , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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Based EU.

blind3rdeye , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

So apparently having consumer-friendly laws does in fact lead to better products. Cool.

Perhaps the USA and other countries should follow the EU’s good example on this.

lolcatnip ,

But socialism! They’re all gonna be starving and homeless! Any day now…

Sheeple ,
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(they’re starving and homeless under capitalism)

must be evil socialisms fault /s

arefx ,

USA politicians are paid for and if anything they will never do this in fact they will do the exact opposite and make it easier for corporations to exploit people.

Benchamoneh , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

How do they verify that I’m in the EEA? Do I need to sign up through a VPN when I register Windows or do I just specify an EEA country during the install?

Grass , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

This is terrible news for everyone like me that wants to incessantly tell people to switch to Linux. While I’m here, do it. Any distro other than Ubuntu and it’s deranged derivatives please.

I mean it’s a good thing they are doing this, but I was kinda hoping they would go full suicide like unity or musk’s twatter. It’s also too little too late. They should allow straightforward telemetry disabling.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Agreed that Linux is better. Disagreed on Ubuntu, that is a fantastic distro.

Also, let people use what they want, you’re not the fsf.

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