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bradorsomething , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank

This is a classic story here: Settlers attack farmer, farmer retaliates, settlers run to IDF to destroy farm.

Salamendacious OP ,
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Child throws a rock at an armored tank…

TinyPizza , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank
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From the article

Samaria Regional Council head Yossi Dagan issued a rare video statement on Shabbat describing the incident: “This incident is a simple incident,” he claimed, saying that the settler family involved was “upstanding,” and a father and “son, a combat soldier on weekend leave” were “attacked with rocks by dozens of wild Hamas supporters.”

-Dehumanize victim. Check
-Blame Hamas. Check

the pograms will continue until morale religion improves

medgremlin ,

*Racial and ethnic homgenization

DarkThoughts ,

Israel needs to start to acknowledge that they have a huge issue with nationalism. Otherwise this cycle will never end.

Salamendacious OP ,
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Quite frankly I think that they’re counting on that nationalism to push settlement development.

curiousaur , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

Disproportionate is the best way to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

dangblingus ,

Also could be how you radicalize future generations against you.

curiousaur ,

That’s why is pragmatic to leave none left. Not saying it’s good or right, just that from a pure strategy standpoint it makes sense what they’re doing.

spirinolas ,

Are you actually defending this?..

curiousaur ,

Just saying it’s pragmatic given the various parties goals.

This whole thing is horrible, and has been horrible for a long time. It’s clear now peaceful coexisting is not an option. Only one of these two has the ability to permanently end the conflict.

dumdum666 , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank

The person that killed the farmer needs to go to jail.

I hope Israel is able to shed itself of those awful rightwing politicians, soon. They embolden those lunatics.

sirboozebum ,

We all know that is not going to happen.

Fapper_McFapper , to world in In first, Arrow downs Eilat-bound missile from ‘Red Sea’; Houthis claim UAV attack

Clickbait title is clickbait.

Threeme2189 ,

Seems like an informative title to me

Five , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

Disproportionate is an understatement.

Karyoplasma ,

The real shame is that Israel’s attack in response to the recent terror attack has been closer to proportionate than its “retaliations” over the past decades.

dangblingus ,

That’s…terrible.

erranto , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

Better not say anything because of fearing big daddy USA, than these platitudes. you sound too weak Norway.

Limitless_screaming , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank
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This is intentional, the occupation government did the same thing with settlements in Gaza until people started supporting and joining Hamas. This ended up destroying the democratic PLO and Fatah government, giving them an excuse to blockade the stripe and make it unlivable.

Even though the Fatah government which is peaceful and recognizes "Israel" is still in power in the West bank, the occupation army, police, and their settlers continue to target Palestinians in the West bank killing them, and destroying their property. Isn'trael is not going to dismantle those settlements until a violent government takes power in the West bank, giving them an excuse to turn it into Gaza and from that into rubble.

This is what their government wants, and what their flag stands and has always stood for.

roastedDeflator , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank
BMatthew , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank

They are arming the settlers. This is now somewhere around 100 dead in the West Bank.

xc2215x , to news in Palestinian said shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank

Very sad to see.

Hegar , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate
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Disproportionate response has been Israel's policy for decades.

sirboozebum ,

It is literally their stated policy of “Mowing the grass”

rengoku2 ,

They learned it from the best teacher, big bro murica.

Ya know, atomic bombs, 20 years of Afghan, Vietcong war blah blah.

Sarmyth ,

Disproportionate responses end some conflicts faster because they remove the illusion of a fair fight your enemy might still believe they could win.

Of course, it makes you look like a psycho, but thats kinda the point.

Linkerbaan ,
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America sure ended Iraq and Afghanistan fast.

SaakoPaahtaa , (edited )

The first gulf was so effective it saved countless Iraqi lives. Presenting airpower so goddamn unfair thousands just ran into the desert rather than stay and get killed. It really is as fast and humane as it can be, as long as the execution is perfect

ArianaGrande ,

Found Dick Cheney

SaakoPaahtaa ,

He didn’t really have nothing to do with the execution of the attack, gen Schwartzkopf or however the fuck his name is written was in charge of that. I mean I know you’re memeing but I’d just like to make that point. Really interesting guy too check out his memoirs.

ssboomman ,

Bro really just said “war crimes sure makes war much easier!” What???

Sarmyth ,

A disproportionate response is not necessarily a war crime. That said, you are right that war crimes make war crimes easier!

Sarmyth ,

People didn’t like this post, but the truth is unpopular. It’s not like I’m encouraging war crimes after all, but you just haven’t been paying attention if you think they don’t make additional war crimes easier.

War crimes have definitions, though, so lots of terrible things aren’t war crimes… they’re just war.

olafurp ,

Wikipedia search gives some results. Wiki search for “Disproportionate response”

UltraMagnus0001 , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

I wonder if this story is biased? /s

rentar42 ,

How so? It seems to consist basically entirely of direct quotes. So unless they misquoted or are leaving out some massively important context, I can't see how it would be biased.

UltraMagnus0001 , (edited )

Norway’s prime minister says the Israeli army’s response to the deadly Hamas attack that killed 1,400 people and saw over 230 abducted by terrorists has been disproportionate, and denounces a “catastrophic” humanitarian situation in Gaza.

No mention of the mass killings and displaced people of Palestine. The quotes were convenient for the narrative, all the stories on the website follow the same narrative. No mention of innocent Palestinians and Israel people who don’t support the war. Just how they have to get Hamas and need funds to support the war.

The war affects innocent people on both sides.

bemenaker , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate

They always are

Sparlock ,

I think this limit has been largely exceeded

I vote this for understatement of the week.

Gigan , to world in Norway says Israel response to Hamas attack disproportionate
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I’m glad a western country had the balls to say it.

bemenaker ,

Ireland and Norway have historically been critical of this.

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