Environmental scientists could also be given berths on board Britain’s warships to conduct research, the paper says.
“We are developing relationships with universities to offer enduring opportunities to use Royal Navy platforms for their research, such as this December’s deployment in HMS Protector with scientists from Portsmouth University onboard,” it reads.
If this “compulsory training” is anything like the dozens of required online training courses I’ve sat through, the sailors are just going to hit “play” on their laptop and then do something else while it plays. If it requires responses, they will just click as needed while doing something else. No one actually pays attention to these things.
Well since the US military uses more oil than any other organization in the world and ships aren’t exactly the most eco-friendly part of it, I’m guessing it’s somewhere between a shitload and infinite gallons.
At least the 11 largest ships and all the submarines are nuclear powered? But yeah, it’s a fuckload. Just don’t look too closely at how much gas jets dump before they land on a ship.
“Magic mushrooms, LSD and other psychedelic drugs increase sexual function and may be able to save struggling marriages, a study from Imperial College London suggests.”
Unfortunately acid lasts much longer for me than it does for her so by the time I am at a point where I could probably be intimate her trip is entirely over. She could delay her trip but then we would peak at different times and I value the experience more than a I value sex
Don’t you think this is an unfair way of framing this? There are plenty of people who may value their relationship who this could help. It’s no different than taking anti-depressants or other meds that can help improve their quality of life.
There’s a lot of potential benefits to psychedelics. But a single study of 300 people showing one effect is hardly cause for celebration.
There is a massive difference in using well studied and understood ways to help couples work through issues VS. Taking something poorly understood that we have close to zero understanding of the long term impact for.
So I’m pretty comfortable saying this is bullshit until proven otherwise, and I think that’s the healthiest way to do it.
Think of it another way - there’s far more research and drugs that are touted as curing cancer that go nowhere than there is support for this. It’s a sexy headline but pretty useless at end of day.
I think they may be enraged because they’re too sheltered, never done psychs and thus do not understand this article or therapy involving psychedelics at all (which they are currently researching because it shows promise, of course.)
Enraged? Because I’m suggesting long term relationship issues are extremely unlikely to be solved by short term solutions?
Yes clearly I’m the crazy one here. Do you honestly believe that serious relationship issues can be solved by a short term acting drug? I’m sure there’s a small chance, but it’s ridiculous to think it’d work for more than a minority.
But feel free to throw some baseless insults instead of providing an actual counter argument! I get it though, if you can’t make an argument, easiest to just attack the person. 😊
Keep proving my point lol. It’s a shame on a science board that people aren’t willing to engage in discussion but just pointless one word responses or personal attacks.
Lol. If your relationship has improved significantly becsuse you’ve taken some short term acting drugs then it either wasn’t a problem in the first place or you’re lying to yourself.
Are people here not in relationships? You must have intense fantasies to think long term issues can be solved by short term solutions.
The anecdote sort of works, but in my version, you’re putting a bandage on a broken bone. I mean, sure, maybe it’ll help but there’s better ways of doing it based on what we know.
That’s the thing, psychedelics may be short term acting drugs but the experiences they allow can have lasting, profound effects on our perception of the world. You can’t make generalization on all drugs, they’re all so different, that’s nonsensical. I highly recommends you read “How to Change Your Mind” by Michael Pollan, that’s a great introduction to the subject.
I don’t disagree they can have great effects, but the research is way too limited on it.
Again, given the actual issue - there are far better researched and understood ways of dealing with it than just taking some drugs and hoping for the best of it.
And yes, myself and friends have taken psychedelics. I recall needing to stop my friend from cutting his penis off as he was hallucinating it was attacking him. Great solid experience.
I’m sure there’s safe dosages and if done under supervision it’s fine, but we’re nowhere near that at the moment and you’re just as likely to have a bad experience as anything profound and good imo.
Well set and settings is everything with psychedelics. There is a huge difference between a trip with friends at a party, an environment that can feel very hostile while triping, and a trip by yourself in a safe, calm and comfortable place which will ends up much more instrospective. You rarely get profound, lasting, altering experiences with the former.
This is not trying to deny the usefulness of other ways to deal with it, that just one more possible tool.
This is exactly the point. This and other studies like it are validating these routes to healing and this guy’s still drinking the Nancy Reagan DARE Kool-Aid. If there’s any truth to his story, then he’s digging his heels in about one piece of anecdotal evidence while ironically suggesting that a study of 300 is too small of a sample size to be relevant.
Acid will not solve your relationship problems but it will make you more vulnerable with each other and it will force you to confront any feelings you’ve been hiding from them or yourself. It’s the extra kick in the ass you sometimes need to get things rolling
Exactly. I’ve had some of my most emotionally vulnerable conversations with my wife during and post trip. It helps you look at your life in a different lenses and really question your current ego and perceptions.
I don’t totally disagree with the sentiment of what you’re saying, but it’s worth giving a cursory glance at psychedelic research before you totally write it off. One of the things that’s been documented is an increased ability to access compassion for yourself and others. Another suggests that psilocybin could help reform maladaptive neural pathways.
It’s not like “ingest a substance and your problems will go away,” it’s more like “this is one tool that could be helpful in some specific ways.” Psychedelics are legitimately different from other substances and I think it’s worth reading about with a hair less cynicism. It’s potentially very useful medicine.
This makes no sense/is not relevant to my comment at all…
But sure, if you can’t make an argument against it feel free to use irrelevant anecdotes. But what can you expect from a person who probably doesn’t play basketball.
My conclusions are the same. I’d be curious to hear why a single study of 300 people for you makes you think that psychedelics are now the cure for long term relationship issues.
Your opinion must change a lot if you base your opinion on these sorts of small studies that mean little!
I’m giving it a 50/50 based on my sample size of two. I sure felt like I wanted to make things work more but spouse still marched right for divorce so 🤷♀️
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