So they’re collecting photos of minors who are most likely naked to protect those minors from the dangers of porn? Flawless work; the children are now safe.
It being a bad idea aside, couldn’t teens just show the camera any picture of an adult? Supposedly the system doesn’t save the photo anywhere, so how would it know?
I think this might end up doing some good. Google unveils save-your-face-to-view-porn-inator, and some whiz kid somewhere will figure out a way to either bypass or fuck up facial recognition.
I’m not gonna lie, I learned some of my best moves by hitting that “Sure, I’m 18” button back in the day. Or I pirated it. And for previous generations, can you imagine age-blocking a box of porn in the woods?
Kids will find a way around this.
I’m not saying all of it is healthy but it doesn’t necessitate a complete lockdown.
Ah yes, learning moves from porn. Like, we all know women love the finger fish hook in the mouth thing, the violent rubbing of the clit (until she has to physically move your hand away), the slapping of the face, the cock down the throat until she gags and phlegm comes out her nose etc etc.
I’m exaggerating, but still. Porn is not sex ed. Be careful with what you learn.
And I agree, the measures to prevent kids from seeing porn all seem very privacy invading and ineffective. Maybe education is the solution, but even the idea of talking to kids about sex seem to make people’s heads explode for some reason.
Good sex as a whole is about experimenting, learning, respect, and, most importantly, consent. I personally wouldn’t have learned how to be a bit creative without some help from porn.
Tips and tricks can lead to more fulfilling relationships.
Of course you can learn things from porn. But you have to know what you’re dealing with first or else it’d be like learning physics from a Marvel movie.
That’s why early age sex education is equally important. Porn isn’t going away. Being proactive and teaching that there are ground rules to consent and that “no means no” is huge.
There should always be a clear line between experimentation and outright molestation and that’s what modern sex ed should be emphasizing.
“Do you mind if we try this?” or “I saw this in a porno, can we try it?” should be normalized just as much as “When were you last tested?” or the simple “Are you ok with this? We’re about to have sex, right?”
*Molestation might not the right word. I struggled to come up with one. I’m settling on non-consent unless someone can come up with a better term.
Ah yes, learning moves from porn. Like, we all know women love the finger fish hook in the mouth thing, the violent rubbing of the clit (until she has to physically move your hand away), the slapping of the face, the cock down the throat until she gags and phlegm comes out her nose etc etc.
Are you assuming all women dislike the things you’ve mentioned? Because that’s not true, and you can take a trip to sex friendly commnunities for women and quickly find someone who “likes it rough” or whatever. You can say most people might not like that, and that could be true, but there are still people who do.
If you want to teach sex ed with a better focus on sexual pleasure, then you can do that in the last year of high school or college (when everyone has already reached the age where they can legally have sex), whichever is preferable. We don’t expect to learn maths from a sci-fi movie, but it certainly can inspire smart people to try for new scientific advancements - just like porn can inspire people to try new positions and techniques, if we actually educate people alongside so they’re aware of what is or isn’t necessarily pleasurable to everyone and that you should ask and talk to your partners to get to know what they’re into. Instead of just assuming what they’re into.
As a member of certain kink/fetish based communities I absolutely am not suggesting nor assuming that no women likes those things. I know very well. Are you making the argument that it’s a good thing for sexually inexperienced youngsters to learn those types of things from porn as if it’s the norm in sex and as if most women likes those things? So that they then assume that’s what most sex is or should be like?
And what I meant with education is that you can include porn awareness in sex ed, kids will see porn whether you like it or not, they should at least understand what porn is - that it’s not an educational forum but a commercial product to make money and the people in it are acting. They should not see porn as a source of knowledge about sex nor the opposite sex.
Also, humans start experiencing sexual pleasure way before any arbitrary age of sexual concent. Sex ed has to take that into consideration. I learned a bit about sexual pleasure, how to put on a condom etc, in school, at the age of 11 or 12 and I’m very glad I did. I should also have been taught what porn is and isn’t.
It’s like the UK government is trying to get Chinese level content restriction without openly admitting it…
There’s a lot more in that bill than just “protect little Timmy from the big bad titties”. It also gives a duty to “protect” users from, and allow reporting of, “illegal content”, and remember folks, whats legal today may well be illegal tomorrow!
The Conservatives come up with these “think about the children!!” porn things all the time, make headlines that their retiree voter-base loves, then silently drop the proposed changes because even they know it’s unworkable and idiotic. It’s like clockwork.
Oh wow wtf is going on the UK. Prohibition never works , teenagers will be more interested in it. Ways to avoid and to overcome the system will appear.
Feelin the same here in the Land of Milk and Honey.
I know that people are scared and unsure, and that always leads them directly to authoritarianism (it did after the 1918 pandemic as well, seemingly). They want to feel safe. And any big liars and charlatans that tell them whatever they want to hear to satiate their fears, they’ll believe and follow. At this point I’m flummoxed. But I know that humans are built to adapt, and all this will all soon pass as well; in the big scope of things.
The annoying thing is that we haven’t really voted for conservatives.
Because of FPTP, it’s normal that ~35% of votes translates to having 100% of the say in governance, which is crazy.
And the worst part is that when multiple parties have anti-Tory stances, all that does is split the anti-Tory vote and hand the Conservative party more power.
I’m looking forward to next year when after 14 years of their bullshit it seems like they’re finally going to be forced out.
Yeah, the Israeli citizenship fucking hates the guy. His admin also pulled IDF troops away from the Gazan border prior to the attack even though some of the IDF officers warned of an impending attack.
Yahya Sinwar is calling the shots from a tunnel in Gaza according to what I read,but it could be wrong. The IDF has been getting intel from captured Hamas.
They tried to go for a rebel strike that might make Israel pause and think about their constant ongoing oppression and slaughter, but Papa Biden was there to make sure that didn't work.
It wasn't bad enough that white nation's went in, stole their land, and displaced them.
America had been depending on Israel to buy and use their guns and ammunition the whole time through to prop up the military industrial complex and give America a toe-hold across the Pacific.
Plenty of bootlicking Americans around to deny that long and horrific history though.
There's no shortage on stories of cases where Israeli soldiers rape Palestinians --of any gender. In terms of murder, we know which side has the higher body count, so let's not pretend we don't.
I wouldn’t recommend citing an Iranian Revolutionary Guard operated propaganda website as a credible source. Perhaps you should examine more critically where you are getting your news from.
The high explosive does its thing, then the massive highly populated concrete structures dismember them and burn them as they fall in wanton painful and terrifying chaos as it collapses giving them unsanctimonious burials.
You have no idea what high ordinance does, but you make up a story in your sick little mind to justify a terrorist act. Sitting on your couch playing Jihad Jane.
Just say it. Just call them savages you want exterminated.
You don't care about death or suffering, you care about how "impure and backwards they are". To be cleaned for "progress"
You're building up to it, just speak plainly. You want to improve the land of Palestine by clearing out the savages. It's the genocidal colonial logic you subscribe to. Let people know who you are.
Israel isn't Jewish. It was taken from Palestine to be given to the Jews as reparation for the Nazi genocide, but that was a long ass time ago, Israel is not entirely Jewish anymore, and now Israel is the country doing a genocide.
Just for anyone who might happen to care about facts, Israel is not a "white nation", and most of its citizens actually originate from the Middle East from Jewish communities in Arab countries that were expelled in the 50s and 60s. Ashkenazi Jews from Europe are a significant group, but they're not a majority. Most Arab countries had Jewish communities for well over 2000 years before being forcibly expelled due to Arab anger after the formation of Israel.
The synagogue of Baghdad, for instance, was built 2500 years ago. A synagogue on the outskirts of Damascus was build 2700 years ago. The synagogue of Aleppo dates nearly 3000 years ago, where it housed a set of Hebrew Bible scrolls from around the year 1000 until they were removed following anti-Jewish riots in 1947. Libya has a synagogue from c. 1060. Cairo has 12 synagogues, but less than 10 Egyptian Jews. In Yemen, evidence of Jewish community dates back 2500 years. In 1949 and 1950, 50,000 Yemeni Jews were evacuated to Israel in the face of growing persecution and backlash to the creation of Israel. By 2009, there were about 350 Jews left in Yemen, and following the Civil War in Yemen and strong persecution from the Houthis, there are less than 10 Jews remaining in Yemen, essentially ending over 2500 years of Jewish history in Yemen.
To describe Israel as nothing but a bunch of white Europeans is simply inaccurate and erases the millennia-long history of Jewish communities throughout the entire Middle East.
They want a ceasefire, the blockade to be loosened and the release of all Palestinian prisoners in Israel. All things that shouldn't need even need negotiation to happen in a non-Apartheid state.
The Hamas leadership has said that the objectives of the attacks are ending “Israeli violations”, securing the release of Palestinian prisoners, and “returning to the project of establishing a state”
Israeli violations can be understood to main airstrikes and other military action against Gaza, though it's unclear if it includes the blockade.
Unfortunately you're right, it doesn't say a whole lot.
While Hamas may appear to have fulfilled its declared short-term goals of deterring Israeli violations of Al-Aqsa Mosque and taking hostages to bargain for the release of Palestinian political prisoners held in Israeli jails, it does not appear to have a long-term end game.
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Three days into Hamas’s surprising and overwhelming attack, it is not clear what its end game is and what it can do to reap long-term benefits. Its priority has seemed to be to take both military and civilian hostages to help deter aggressive Israeli retaliation and later exchange them for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.
Which contradicts the idea in the OP article stating about Hamas' "demands."
The closet thing I could find was this:
The Hamas leadership has said that the objectives of the attacks are ending “Israeli violations”, securing the release of Palestinian prisoners, and “returning to the project of establishing a state”.
Which are certainly objectives, but not specific enough to be demands.
Searching for "hamas' list of demands" online, there are several articles similar to the one above that reference it, but no list of demands that I can see. The closest things I can find are the 1988 and 2017 Hamas charters, which aren't particularly specific other than the original one calls for the eradication of Israel and the Jews, and the revised one just calls for the eradication of Israel... which isn't exactly a demand as much as an aspiration, and is kind of a moot point because it doesn't seem like something that would be accepted by Israel.
So I'm still looking for an actual list of demands...
Which are certainly objectives, but not specific enough to be demands.
Not really? "Release Palestinian prisoners" and "stop Israeli violations" at least are definitely demands, and from what I found they also want Israel to stop flying drones over Gaza. That said, yeah, I guess not much has been made public.
Well for an actual "list of demands" I would expect things like "release these people:" followed by a list of names, and "stop doing these violations:" followed by a list of the violations they are accusing Israel of. "Release everybody" and "stop doing bad things" are technically demands, but they're not the kind of things you'd expect in an actual list of specific demands. Those certainly work as summaries of the demands, but I was hoping that some news agency would have an actual list of the specific things Hamas is demanding in order to release the hostages rather than just "do everything we want." I've seen them mention the drones in another article, which I suspect must be one of the things on the actual list.
"Release everyone" is one of their actual demands. Usually Hamas milks hostages for as many Palestinian prisoners as they're worth, and this time they have a lot of hostages so it should be in line with historical "exchange rates", so to speak, given that many of the hostages are soldiers, which have more value as hostages. Good point on the violations thing, though, it's frankly perplexing that they nobody is publishing an actual list.
If something as vague as "release everyone" or "release all Palestinians in Israeli jails" or whatever is one of their actual demands, it's unfortunate, because it makes it sound more like they're not serious and are just making impossible demands that they know will not/can not be met as an excuse to continue fighting but to give off the appearance of working for peace. Just as if "the eradication of the Israeli state" were one of their demands. But I can't really accuse them of that yet since I haven't seen an actual list of demands and we're both just speculating at this stage.
because it makes it sound more like they're not serious and are just making impossible demands that they know will not/can not be met as an excuse to continue fighting but to give off the appearance of working for peace.
Why not? I think they got Israel to release 1200 Palestinian prisoners for one soldier before. That's why I said there's historical precedent. Releasing all Palestinian prisoners is far from an impossible demand.
It's the vagueness that's the problem. Without lists of who is to be released, it just becomes Israel's word of who is there or not. It could be 100 people or 10,000 people. I suspect Hamas is far more aware of who is imprisoned and how much they are worth. Like, is Hamas demanding the release of random violent criminals, rapists, car thieves, etc. solely because of their ethnicity? I doubt it. But they'll want their fighters back, and any political prisoners, stuff like that.
Release the hostages and then what? Lose all their leverage? I can bet you right now if they release the hostages outside of an actual ceasefire agreements none of their demands will be met.
I think Israel will take over Gaza like it used to before 2005 (they've actually stated this), and Palestinians prisoners will continue rotting in the Israeli military prison system. I also think Palestinian resistance will be mercilessly crushed. Why do you ask?
Are you serious? After so many news talking about drugged up kids which were released in hostage exchange and naked woman being dragged through the city and spat on you actually question whether hostages are abused?
Oh in that case we're talking about different things. There are hostages who were abused the moment they were taken. The people who abused those need to be punished, no questions asked. There are then hostages that weren't. Those weren't abused after being taken into the tunnels, or at least weren't sexually assaulted. The former is a fact, the latter is a claim even the IDF walked back on.
There are 2M Palestinians living within the borders that Israel claims as it’s own. There are 8M Israelis (that figure includes Palestinian Israelis). Palestinians would need to hold roughly 1/5 of all gov’t positions in order for them to be anything other than a token minority. But they don’t. In fact, it’s not even close. The US, despite it’s 200+ year racist and patriarchal history, has better representation of non-white and non-male people in Congress–as a proportion of the population–than Israel does.
Ty for clarifying, West Bank settlements are absolutely abhorrent, but I’ve seen too many people use the phrase claimed territory to refer to all of Israel. I appreciate the response and clarification
IMO, the 1947 UN borders are fairly reasonable, and Jerusalem should probably be administered by rotating 3rd parties (since there’s no way that Israel and Palestine can realistically jointly govern Jerusalem due to how religiously charged it is).
In the USA, there are 3 African-American senators out of 100. There have been only 3 African American governors in history.
There are 9 ethnic minority members of French parliament out of 577, despite making up about 15% of the population.
Ethnic minorities represent 10% of the UK Parliament, despite being 16% of the population.
In Israel, there are 10 seats in the Knesset representing Arab/Palestinian parties out of 120.
Underrepresentation of minorities is a widespread global problem that is not limited to Israel. Pretending that the the rest of the world is some kind of post-racial utopia, while only Israel experiences racial inequality is cynical at best.
Look at state legislators, mayors, etc. Yeah, the US is gerrymandered to shit, and SCOTUS is gutting the civil rights and voting rights acts. But at least at a state level, non-white people have better representation. In my state, Republicans are currently fighting a federal court order to redraw voting districts because they under-represented black populations, but that city has a black mayor, and a majority black city council. Yeah, the US has a problem with racism. But the US doesn’t send in the military to run Atlanta because they don’t want black and Latino people to have a say in the government.
I mean Israel doesn't follow its ceasefires. What do they expect will happen? Despite two agreements stipulating that the blockade would be lifted and air strikes would stop neither happened.
Internet libs love to tell people how they should fight for their rights. I wonder if anyone has considered holding a bake sale in Gaza? Maybe then both sides can sit down and talk? Maybe Israel just doesn’t know committing genocide is bad? Does Hamas know Israel wants to commit genocide? Does Israel know Palestinians feel pain and suffering?
Many of those prisoners are there after participating in terrorist activities, many of them murdering lots of innocent civilians. The only reason they’re still there is because Israel does not have the death penalty.
They’re a terrorist organisation and use terrorist methods. They don’t even care if Palestinians get killed. Can’t believe you’re equating them with Nelson Mandela 😂
Yep. Him and Winnie were infamous for putting tyres around the necks of their victims, filling the tyres with petrol, then lighting em up. Amnesty international wouldn’t go near him for a very long time. This came up in my Facebook memories a couple of days ago, the dude was a monster. Personally, I don’t think the ends justified the means, but I know they did for many, and I know for even more they don’t know the whole story…
It seems his wife Winnie was openly advocating for it while Mandela was in prison but I can’t find him associating with it.
Necklacing was used by the black community to punish its members who were perceived as collaborators with the apartheid government.[2] Necklacing was primarily used on black police informants; the practice was often carried out in the name of the struggle, although the executive body of the African National Congress (ANC), the most broadly supported South African opposition movement, condemned it.[3][4] In 1986, Winnie Mandela, then-wife of the imprisoned Nelson Mandela, and who herself had endured torture and four imprisonments to a total of two years,[5] stated, “With our boxes of matches, and our necklaces, we shall liberate this country”, which was widely seen as an explicit endorsement of necklacing.[6][7] This caused the ANC to initially distance itself from her,[8] although she later took on a number of official positions within the party.[8]
Do you have the actual list that shows this is part of their current "list of demands"?
I realize that was part of the Hamas charter, but that's a different beast than what sounds like their current list of demands. This would be an example of a ludicrous demand that is just for show rather than a serious negotiation.
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