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fearout , to world in Thousands evacuated as Spanish island wildfire out of control
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And El Niño has barely started. I’m terrified by whatever should follow

Spacebar , to world in Putin says Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to
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Putin: “Russia will use cluster bombs if we have to, we already have, since the beginning, but we will still use them if we have to.”

suction ,

Has Putin watched too much Mitch Hedberg?

Blulien , to world in Putin says Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to

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  • Spacebar ,
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    Both sides have been using them from the beginning. This is just a combination of Russian amplification and the actual news cycle.

    vimdiesel ,

    incorrect, the Ukrainians have not been using them but they will be using them pretty soon.

    skillissuer , (edited )

    they already do reddit.com/…/ukrainian_unit_immaterium_showing_th… reddit.com/…/cluster_munitions_used_against_russi…

    and also i remember an isolated incident of using cluster shells hitting russian trenches, because it was only few this could have been captured ammunition. there was only 20 submunitions each or so, so this had to be something smaller (like 122mm howitzer or maybe 120mm mortar). this one is 7 months old already reddit.com/…/condensed_video_of_airburst_artiller… (longer version reddit.com/…/russian_troops_absorbing_artillery_f…) however, this doesn’t have to be so, as Ukrainians manufacture their own cluster shells and some could be sourced from euro countries, like Poland or Bulgaria, but more importantly Turkey

    i found another example reddit.com/…/russian_position_targeted_with_clust… this had to happen in spring judging by lack of leaves on trees

    xuxebiko ,

    Yes, that too on civilians. Now Putin is pretending none of that happened.

    freehugs , to world in Putin says Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to

    From what I read the main purpose of cluster munitions is for offensive maneuvers, so my hope is Russia will be too busy (and unsuccessful) holding their frontlines to make effective use of them.

    Probertd8 , to world in Putin says Russia will use cluster bombs in Ukraine if it has to
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    @little_cow He already has???

    FireMyth ,

    Yep- not sure how putin making this statement is any kind of news.

    vimdiesel ,

    this is like an announcement to the russian people who don’t really know what is going on in Ukraine. That’s why he still has 80% support, most russians are fooled by state tv and think all the info on the internet is western propaganda when actually only 23% of it is.

    little_cow OP ,

    From what I understand Putin is using a stricter definition of “cluster bombs” as a muntition containing a bomblets submunition.

    I have seen of Russian videos munitions are hypersonic missiles, thermobaric bombs (incendiary submunition), and timed remote mine submunitions (a timed self-destruct feature or one that turns it inert after a while) but none utilizing a pressure fuse like the butterfly mines that were used by Ukraine.

    They are terrible weapons regardless of definition

    Probertd8 ,
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    FireMyth ,
    chowder ,

    none utilizing a pressure fuse like the butterfly mines that were used by Ukraine.

    Both sides claim the other is using these, and both sides likely are.

    variaatio ,

    Even if it was just pure anti-personnel clusters, we have evidence of that far back in 2022. So even then he would be lying. For example there is photo graphic evidence from the bomb disposal teams in Ukraine of 9N24 submunition. Which is soviet pure anti-personnel submunition for their cluster dispensers. It has no other purpose. It isn’t even dual use dumb HEAT/FRAG submunition. 9N24 is pure fragmentations anti-personnel round with simple contact fuse. Hit’s ground, the explosive core along the main cylinder shaped munition explodes and well the whole outside wall is lined with steel balls to be thrown in 360 all around.

    Similarly 9N210 HE/FRAG munitions have been documented. Again useless against armored targets, only use case is against soft targets like humans. As have 9N235 again HE/FRAG sub munitions been documented.

    All same purpose, just little different sized and exact design for different dispensers. Some those might theoretically have fuses with self destruct. However the whole point about cluster munitions being bad is fuses fail, including supposed self-destruct fuses. There is no such thing as 100% reliable fuse, even self destruct one.

    My source: Armaments Research Services articles on the subject. I’m sure there is bunch of other more official sources also, including listing more individual incidents and attacks. ARES are just convenient source here, since they are interested the weapons technologies and types used in conflicts, so they have bunch of articles of “This specific type of submunitions has now been seen in Ukraine”.

    ZILtoid1991 ,
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    Yes, and called them "precision strikes against military targets".

    Jaysyn , to worldnews in Putin says Russia has 'sufficient stockpile' of cluster bombs and will use them if necessary
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    "We're going to continue doing what we are already doing. Also, quit retreating!"

    TehWorld , to world in China, Russia to start joint air and sea drill in Sea of Japan

    I’m surprised that there are Russian air assets that aren’t being pulled to their western front. That said, there are surely plenty of Russian naval assets that can’t really help much in Ukraine.

    teft ,
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    Probably a bunch of MIG-1s if the tank sitch on the front is anything to go by.

    HuddaBudda ,
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    At least from what I've seen from the Russian navy. They are getting slaughtered by torpedo drones. For a moment, we even had them going into Russia's Dry docks, ruining ships that were being repaired.

    While you are partially right, in that you don't need ships on a land battle. I feel this is more of a helicopter analogy. In that Russia does have attack helicopters, but can't use them effectively because they keep getting knocked out by better anti-air weaponry.

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    doofy77 ,

    A Hind D?

    vimdiesel ,

    they’re probably using fishing boats and rafts to simulate aircraft carriers.

    rockSlayer , to worldnews in Putin says Russia has 'sufficient stockpile' of cluster bombs and will use them if necessary

    I think this is trying to ride off the fearmongering behind headlines like “the US is supplying illegal munitions to Ukraine!!!1!!”. These weapons have not been banned by the US, Ukraine, or Russia. This is posturing. Don’t fall for it.

    PaulDevonUK ,
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    The rest of the civilised world banned them but Murica didn’t. Trump had a good name for countries like that - Shit Hole.

    rockSlayer ,

    I absolutely agree that they should be banned by all nations. I just don’t want misinformation to spread about this threat

    Fonchote , to worldnews in Putin says Russia has 'sufficient stockpile' of cluster bombs and will use them if necessary

    Didn’t they already use cluster bombs in the past in Ukraine? Not to mention phosphorous?

    Kbobabob ,

    Yeah. Fuck Putin.

    kiwifoxtrot , to technology in Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%
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    I don’t think it’s possible at this point to turn a profit. There is no more fat to cut and there’s no one left to develop anything new. Best case is he is able to sell Twitter at a huge loss and walk away.

    Naia ,

    Who is he gonna sell it to? Nobody would want it thanks to whay he did to it.

    BearPerson , to world in BBC presenter at centre of sex photo scandal named as lead anchor Edwards

    If both people were consenting adults then what’s all the fuss about?

    RandAlThor OP ,

    "BBC presenter had paid a young person 35,000 pounds ($45,000) for explicit photos over three years, beginning when the person was 17. The age of consent for sex in England is 16, but images of someone under 18 can be considered child pornography. "

    The brits have to get clarity on what “adult” is. This is the gray area.

    BearPerson ,

    Yikes, now I understand

    xc2215x , to technology in Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%

    Elon has not been the best.

    aquarisces , to technology in Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%

    Damn no way

    Captain_Patchy , to technology in Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%

    The courts had BETTER fucking decide that he is personally liable to pay off the promises he made to the employees he forced or conned out.

    BitingChaos , to technology in Elon Musk says Twitter's cash flow still negative as ad revenue drops 50%
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    oh noes!

    darko8472 ,

    Anyway…

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