I had some funky heart rate issues after the second vaccine. I couldn’t exercise for a few months because it would go bonkers with palpitations and arrhythmia. Tests came back negative for myocarditis but I never had such issues before.
Now I hear that studies exist claiming almost 1 in 35 vaccinated have some kind of heart injury, and though I take it with a grain of salt until there is more data, I might be sitting this one out. I recently got COVID-19 and while it sucked for a couple days, I came through it just fine.
“Heart injury” being enough inflammation to mildly elevate inflammatory markers on day three after vaccination, which went back to normal quickly in all participants studied. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37470105/
I get that anecdotes are not evidence. But each person has their own physical makeup and experience and I’m only sharing mine. It did not go back to normal for me quickly, it took months.
I’m happy that it worked great for others. I am an advocate for vaccines and my children have all their vaccinations. But I will not be getting this vaccine for myself.
I can appreciate that. I just wanted to make it clear that the study you are referring to does not describe “heart injuries” in the way that most people think of when they hear the phrase, or in the way you experienced.
Westerners love to fantasize about how “China is Collapsing” while their economies are in complete disarray. I’m no defender of their State Capitalist Police State, but China’s definitely doing better than the US is lmao and they certainly are in a better
Like all this shit about “demographic collapse” is complete bullshit. Isn’t it a good thing that the population of the world’s most populous country is decreasing? Doesn’t that mean more resources to go around? Wouldn’t people in China then enjoy a higher Standard of Living, Cheaper food and Housing? At the very least they’ll be in a better shape to handle the climate catastrophe we’re going into. Something the West is not even trying to address.
That’s called infertility, and it’s a separate issue. Fertility rate refers to children per woman, and this is decreasing globally to unsustainable levels. There is a phenomenon known as the “demographic transition” that refers to the demographic shift of pre-industrial high births and high mortality, to high births and low mortality due to modern science, to finally low births and low mortality. The only successful policy to reverse baked-in population decline so far has been to accept large numbers of immigrants. Obviously this can’t be universally applied because those immigrants have to come from somewhere.
So on the topic, can someone explain why birth rates are so important if it isn’t lower then the death rate? I see this issue so much and I really can’t find a good issue other then economic reasons
Really your only answers are going to be based in economics.
A society can absolutely thrive with a 1:1 ratio, but not built around a capitalistic mindset. Quite frankly China’s probably the best person to have this problem and they ignore the whims of capitalism for their countries residents quite often.
Possible non-economic considerations could be not having enough people to build a military and lack of cultural exportation. Both of which China doesn’t really have any problems with.
I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.
It’s not totally random. I’ve noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like it’s one more justification to be a perpetual victim.
You know what’s wild? My alzheimer’s patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. They’re not overweight. They don’t get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.
Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.
Oh sweetheart. Unless you account for a heck of a lot of people. Hundreds to thousands isn't a very large sample size when you take into account the amount of people with disabilities there is in the world. And you also have to account for figures of people with undiagnosed disabilities too.
If you look back, the people addressing me have been arguing about why I shouldn’t believe my sources, and they’re using nothing but degrading insults and authoritarian arguments to try to sway me. My responses have all been appropriate. Nobody has asked for clarification or explanation. They just read my claims and reacted with their own narcissistic responses. I don’t care if you all remain ignorant of the truth.
Allow me to rephrase for people like you. “I am confident in my research and experience, and I have no desire to explain years of work to the willfully ignorant.”
Does it? You insulted me by calling me willfully ignorant. I didn’t insult you or make it personal at all, so that sounds like it applies to your responses, not mine. And how is insulting me appropriate when you claim all of your responses are appropriate when I did not do you the same discourtesy?
You are willfully ignorant. You only have the very vaguest idea of the dynamic of the mind body interaction I briefly described, and now you’re devoting all of your will to painting me as an antagonist simply because I responded to hostility and ignorance with the same instead of patiently spoon feeding you information that you’ll promptly disregard or manipulate to reinforce your existing beliefs of who and what you think you’ve encountered.
See, you think I owe it to other people to drag them kicking and screaming to what I know is the truth, and I know that’s pointless. All I can do is communicate with people on the level they project onto me. If you wanted to ask questions and have a constructive conversation, you’d have done that from the beginning.
What are you even talking about now? I didn’t say anything about the mind body interaction. I didn’t bring it up or discuss it. How is that me being willfully ignorant?
I meant if you want to talk about ignorance, you seem to be totally ignorant of what I’ve said to you so far since you think it involves something I never even mentioned.
You didn’t say anything about it, correct. I did in the very first post. I know what you’ve said so far, and you don’t seem to realize that it’s irrelevant because we’re having two different conversations. You’ve been a pedantic and condescending asshole since your arrival, and I’ve been responding. You THINK you’re correcting me, but you’ve yet to consider what you’re correcting because you’re arguing more with your assumptions than you are with me.
Why would anti-vaxxers or COVID conspiracists be talking about having Long COVID? They’re more likely to represent it as a minor cold, not talking publicly about being disabled by illness.
The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. It’s become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.
You can’t just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what you’ve said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:
The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.
Is there like one sentence in that paper you’ve latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?
I don’t think you read enough of the report. It goes into showing those genetic markers of that patents of covid. That means that those groups are who should be far more careful than groups without those genetics.
Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021.
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of “unintentional accidents” are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don’t really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023
Then you post:
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Which most certainly includes “Slipping on a wet floor” but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
You’re obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Immunocompromised people exist at every age. People with asthma exist at every age. And 150k dead per year is not a small number.
I don’t even understand what you’re trying to argue, as if it would be less worth fighting if it only slaughtered the elderly. What a horrible standard and a horrible message to send about the kind of society you’d like to live in.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don't necessarily die to it any more doesn't mean it "poses no issues".
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn't suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that's the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn't kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I can’t get a full night’s sleep because I wake up coughing every night. That’s “really bad sniffles” to you?
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it's just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they'll effect people and spread. So it's not really a concern, it's just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we're still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it's good to keep people in the know.
I'm thankful it's still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I'm glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I'd been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there's long COVID, we don't get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I've felt worse since getting it.
So it's not just as easy as saying but the flu. They're two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there's still stuff being written about it, be thankful it's being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that's akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
Hey look, it's one of those "This doesn't affect me, so why should I give a shit?" types! With enough training, they evolve into "Why didn't anyone warn me??!?" types.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I'm travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don't get paid sick leave), knowing what is "out there" is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there's usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
Oh, I don’t agree with that. There’s no news release for new flu strains or new flu vaccines (there’s new ones every year, you know. It’s not a once a decade thing)
Do you actually believe it doesn’t need to hit ‘at this level’ because people would be just as informed if it wasn’t? Or do you just not want to see it anymore.
The NHS here is always sending out press releases to the population to remind those that are vulnerable to get their seasonal vaccines (inclusive of flue, and COVID).
There is information out there about new flu mutations and flu shots, but with those applicable going for yearly vaccinations it really is irrelevant.
So, to go back to my original point, which people seem so adamant on willfully misreading so that they can have something to be outraged about, it’s not news worthy on the scale these articles want to suggest that they are. There are countless things that change or develop that various different subsections of society need to know about.
if you really truly believe that any information about new flu viruses gets to “the population” then i’m sorry, you are very very very very very very very wrong.
I know what your original point was, i don’t care. my point was countering it with “we should have more exposure of health impacting news”, you just think that it’s not needed because you think that the NHS is delivering this information to “the population”, which again, is very very very very very very very wrong.
I don’t think you deserve the downvoting. I do think it’s semi-newsworthy but you’re right that people really don’t care anymore. We aren’t going to mask back up, most people won’t get vaccinated, much like the flu, shots are going to be available but just not common. Your overall sentiment is echoing most peoples so I think it’s entirely valid despite what the internet justice warriors think
This is a growing problem worldwide with increasing productivity and automation.
Now don’t get me wrong I’m not a luddite. I’m all for more investment in productivity and automation but it doesn’t mean there aren’t issues.
Lots of things need to be done and their aren’t really any easy answers. Unfortunately those with a lot and those with power have more votes, so it doesn’t look like much is going to change.
On a year-on-year basis, GDP expanded 6.3% in the second quarter, accelerating from 4.5% in the first three months of the year, but the rate was below the forecast for growth of 7.3%.
You’re suggesting that China is very democratic then?
It is though. You can look at so many measures from perception of democracy among the citizens, the degree to which power is devolved to the local level most answerable to the community, and the turnover of elected officials being far higher than western democracies which usually feature politicians with what amounts to lifelong tenure.
People actually think China is still run the way it was back in the 1960s because their world view is formed from memes. It’s a democracy and a more vibrant one than what we usually see in the west.
But someone will reply to this with a meme about social credit without realizing they don’t earn Reddit gold here.
This. The US has been doing social credit for decades. We just call it regular credit because we don't care about your antisocial personality tendencies as long as you can keep a job and spend the money you earn. Just a question of priorities.
Social credit is a terrible system. But we have similar stuff - job references, landlords checking your history, etc. The US often has the things we deride others for - we just obfuscat and abstract it. Bread lines -> EBT, etc.
The US government is structured such that, although it operates as a democracy, you don’t feel like you have that much control over how the government operates.
The US wants to invade Iraq? Alrighty then. California wants to dump $100 billion into a single rail line? Sure. Boston wants to defund transit until it literally catches on fire? Why not. Across every level of government, you’re sort of left wondering who they’re listening to.
I particularly enjoyed when the parliamentarian when brought out to kill the $15 minimum wage proposal being included in a Bill, leading to many Americans finding out they had the parliamentarian in the first place.
I have a bunch of lemmygrad and hexbear accounts blocked so I can’t see the other replies to your comment but I bet it’s a whataboutism against the US, isn’t it?
Edit: lmao the downvotes tell me, yes, it’s just whataboutism against the US because that’s all they ever have to offer.
National Bureau of Statistics spokesman Fu Linghui on Tuesday said the release of the data would be suspended from August as the way the jobless rate was calculated needed to be improved to reflect the changing society.
He said there were 65 million students in the 16-24 age group and it was questionable whether they should be included in the unemployment figures before they graduated.
On the face of it, this seems quite reasonable.
You would expect that youth unemployment would capture the young people in the labour force, i.e. the number of people actually looking to work.
The next question that comes to mind is - you know the number of students, deduct that from your percentage and you’re done.
The answer is probably that labour force data like this is usually collected through surveys of samples of the population, while the enrolment data would be collected from educational institutions.
I hate this bullshit me versus them attitude everybody’s bringing over from Reddit.
Did you stop to consider that just because somebody is a member of an instance doesn’t necessarily mean they are part of the issues with the instance. I didn’t go stalk this users comments or posts but it seems egregious to just see ‘hexbear’ and assume that user is on par with your concerns.
I’m part of lemmy.zip, which as I understand it, has a lot more trans folks than other instances. Does that make me trans? Yes: by your bullshit preliminary assumption policy. Meanwhile, I’m not.
It gets even more reasonable if you read the full quote from Fu Linghui, which Reuters decided to omit…
Not sure if you read it already, but you’re absolutely right deng-salute
“The college students put their focus on gaining knowledge at campuses while the public holds different opinions on whether we should include these college students in employment analysis before their graduation. Also, we need research to extend the age period of defining ‘youths’ as the young people are now having longer schooling years,” he added.
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