what could she do to make up for this? i’m asking earnestly because, in my estimation, it’s been a long time and she is in a position to implement policies i care a lot about like the green new deal. i don’t like what she did then, but i don’t know how i can hold her accountable for that.
quantity gained versus effort expended. When feeding a larger group of people, it’s far easier to get enough by taking apart a deer as opposed to 20 something squirrels
What are you taking about, he didn’t bait anyone. You aren’t obligated to honor a quote from someone who isn’t in your company. If I said my son is a mechanic and he can put a new engine in your car for $50, you absolutely should not expect a $50 engine.
I’m saying they should not get to the point that they walk in the door. If they call, correct immediately.
It should be corrected, by Dad, prior to a call, rather than used as a sales funnel, which is the suggestion.
Honest mistakes happen, but using an honest mistake to purposefully continue to mislead to get them in the door and then correct them is a bait and switch.
How do you get them in the door to tell them without the call? Youre advising using an error to your advantage to massage someone to be a client using a bait and switch tactic.
It may not have been thenolan, being a genuine error, but that’s your plan to take advantage of it. If they purposely gave the wrong amount, would it be bait and switch in your view?
I am listening to what you are saying. ok, so you did imply this is not the first contact. Just using a phrase to do so. Obviously you meant something different.
Walking out the door, also a phrase. Again, one that’s situational. It means they are on site. For talking on the phone, I’d say hang up. So again, implying its not the first contact.
Look, I also think it can be correctly handled, but your whole post makes it sound like a pushy sales narrative that is deceptive. Youre not outright calling for deception but the implication is there. I’m not the only one noticing it.
Maybe your choice of words is wrong, but when someone tells you who they are, listen.
Just like in this discussion, youre changing the narrative deceptively.
Now they are on the phone. They weren’t before, that stage had passed.
Sure, you are now retroactively changing your intent but it doesn’t change the meaning of your words.
You say listen to what youre saying. I did.
If you said, when they call advise of the current rate, is agree. Your version seems to be past that stage. In no world does anyone think that you would be obliged to honor the quote. So either your advice is not really advice, to do what is normal and advise them of your actual rate. Or, as appears more likely, you want to leverage the mistake using their sunken cost of time after arranging a meet, knowing in advance their expectations dont match the rate.
If everyone else gets it why is there another comment calling you a LinkedIn lunatic? Its not a term I would use, but I see their point. Your comment is one of two things: A pointless comment offering no advice as of course they would clarify. A comment to say leverage it to your advantage, using deceptive tactics.
Walk it back all you want but in context its clear to me which was the intent. Perhaps you meant no I’ll will, but it reads as exploitative. In quoting for any kind of work, but especially programming based work, there is a knowledge differential. This justifies fees, but the same knowledge differential is often used to take advantage of those with no concept of the work involved.
Dudes just saying you can be deceptive without intending it. Its not the craziest idea is it?
To avoid abusing the sunk cost fallacy, it would be best to tell the dad that is not the correct rate, and to please reach out to their friend with the correction.
No chance of someone feeling like they might as well choose youre higher rate because they are already talking to you.
In my opinion its a direct response to the advice that this can be turned into a positive, and is just pointing out that its technically based on a deceptive principle so you should not make a habit out of it.
I think its fair to consider the situation from all involved perspectives, including the Dads friend.
The guy literally explained he was using sales idioms and you are taking it like someone is actually trying to lock prospective clients in. If he told you they decided to get off the pot instead of walk out the door would you assume he’s a voyeur watching them poop?
I’ve killed deer, chickens, chipmunks, squirrel, and some other small pests. Yes, I did gut and clean the deer and chickens myself. And yes, I did eat their tasty fleshy meat.
I went crabbing and the resources I found said that killing them before cooking them was likely more humane than boiling them alive, so that’s what I did.
My old neighbor’s cat once left a paralyzed/twitching rat outside my door, which I found in the morning. I quickly realized that the rat was not going to recover (it had already been there for hours), so I had to figure out a way to quickly end its suffering. I did not eat the rat though.
I have butchered squirrels, deer, turkey, snakes, catfish, goats, pigs, and rabbits. Went vegetarian two years ago for ethical reasons though, so I guess I don’t get to raise my hand lol
If you think I look silly, sure. All I’m saying is all of the meat advocates that jumped to attack the OP are missing the point.
Now, why would you all misconstrue what they said so bad? Are you all seriously arguing that even close to a substantial percent of people hunt for their own food?
Maybe, just MAYBE, they weren’t talking about all of you who actually have, and instead were making a point about how the vast majority of people in at least the US have not and will not hunt their own food in their lifetime. The number drops if we only consider those who actually provide for themselves with hunting rather than treat it as a sport with meat as a bonus.
No you are right, they must have literally meant that noone has ever hunted ever. That makes much more sense. Definitely doesnt say anything about your reading comprehension.
I get it, they are coming for your meat, probably your guns too. Life’s rough. Keep up the good fight.
🙋 I’ve hunted deer, gutted and skinned them myself too. The tenderloins are great sauteed, and the rest of the meat is good ground (just don’t cook it as long as hamburger, it’s more lean).
I’ll give it a shot anyways, to play devil’s advocate.
I only buy a vanishingly small percentage of the amount of meat produced by factory farms every year. So I feel the same percentage responsible for perpetuating that system, which isn’t nearly enough to keep me up at night.
Hey we can all just work to be better versions of ourselves, and theres a lot of ways to make progress. Considering I’m the only vegan in my family, I likely buy more meat than you do.
Its really just important to me that people dont allow themselves to stop growing mentally and morally. Its sad when people behave like they have all the answers to everything already.
Maybe don’t be a little baby who breaks things in a fit of rage. Next time you feel like taking your anger out on physical object, simply don’t. Breaking something, feeling bad about it, and learning from the experience is an important part of growing up.
Some people are not taught, by their parents, how to handle anger or frustration. I don’t think we should be calling them out for this, as people don’t learn that way.
BTW, you only see the contemptuous french behavior close to Paris, because for some fucking reason every single American visiting France only goes to Paris. Since all the American karens are concentrated in Paris, the people in the suburbs are much nicer.
Parisians look down to the rest of France, they even have a word to describe any area of France that isn’t Paris: “la province”, they use it all the time and any one else is annoyed by this word because it sounds really insulting.
Having been to Paris myself not too long ago, their rudeness is far overhyped. They were actually quite pleasant to us for the most part, only a handful of interactions that I would consider rude, mostly from street scammers. Maybe I just got lucky or missed some social cues, but I’m not sure where this idea of the openly contemptuous average Parisian comes from.
Ah, but people often make manual art on a prompt (usually called a brief). It might even be why the text you give an LLM to make an image is called a prompt. I didn’t even get the joke at first because of this.
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