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LazaroFilm , to memes in Ketamine Street
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Where’s Emo?

Texas_Hangover ,

Cutting himself.

darcy , to programmerhumor in What if we tried designing C a second time?
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

go is more like simpler C, zig (will be (hopefully)) more like better C

AK_Throwaway , to memes in Berry Club

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elxeno , to memes in Berry Club

Is banana a berry or is it there just for scale?

somnuz ,

You mean Scaleberry?

FiskFisk33 ,

yup en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany)

a berry is a fleshy fruit without a stone (pit) produced from a single flower containing one ovary. Berries so defined include grapes, currants, and tomatoes, as well as cucumbers, eggplants (aubergines) and bananas, but exclude certain fruits that meet the culinary definition of berries, such as strawberries and raspberries.

Comment105 ,

Botany should not have borrowed the word berry.

I am of the opinion that “a small, sweet, edible fruit” is closer to the right definition for the word, and that botanists’ decision to appropriate the word for a redefined purpose was inappropriate and unnecessary.

phar ,

When did this all occur? Was berry a word for things like strawberries before and then it was chosen by botanists to meet another definition?

ophy , (edited )

Linguist here, if I may share my 2¢.

We do know that even over a thousand years ago, speakers of Old English were still calling these kinds of fruits berries, such as strawberries and blackberries (although pronunciation differed somewhat, of course). A word for strawberry as “earth berry” is even reconstructed for the proto Germanic language around 1500 to 2500 years ago. Beyond that, it becomes difficult to trace the word berry any further.

The Botanical sense of the word berry seems to come largely from at earliest the 1500s, from the writings of Caesalpinus, although the definitions were inconsistent and later writings on the matter constantly redefined things and added new terms. Although, largely, these writings all used Latinate terms for their botanical concepts, such as bacca (the closest to the modern botanical berry), and also words like pomum (pome/pomme), drupe, etc. for the other categories of fruit.

So, somewhere since all of that, some English-speaking botanist decided it would be a good idea to use the word berry to describe this concept of a bacca (even though berries had been used for distinctly different things from what that concept described), and now we end up in our current silly predicament where strawberries aren’t berries but pumpkins are.

I’d propose we call botanical berries “bayes” or “bayfruit”, the word bay/baye being an alternate word for berry that ultimately derived from the Latin word bacca, via Old French.

cjsolx ,

Sounds to me like we need a new definition for berry.

Ascend910 , to unixporn in Im trying out some simple KDE customization on Garuda, what you think?

If Microsoft designed MacOS

ehrenschwan ,

That’s already Windows 11.

Ascend910 ,

That is if Apple designed Windows

ehrenschwan ,

Oh right, yeah.

SpezChokesOnDik , to memes in The time has come.

Why there is duck with two head?

Also, I get Berserk Eclipse vibes from this.

Dave , to unixporn in Im trying out some simple KDE customization on Garuda, what you think?
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I’m pretty noviceand will certainly offend someone with this statement but I thought KDE was Windows-like (task bar, start menu, etc) and Gnome was Mac-like (permanent menu bar across top, dock).

The screen shot seems to remind me of Gnome rather than KDE. What are the benefits of configuring KDE to look like Gnome?

torbjoern ,

I’d say a benefit is that one can achieve the workflow of GNOME or macOS while having the configurability of KDE at one’s disposal.

Gabadabs ,
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Kde defaults to a windows style layout, but it's very configurable by design. You can freely add and customize panels with different widgets. Kde has different design philosophies than Gnome. Even with a similar dock + menu bar layout, features vary or are handled differently.

Dave ,
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I run Gnome (Ubuntu currently) and have minor stability issues. I also just… kinda don’t like Ubuntu. Previously I was running Fedora and liked it more but again, stability issues (which was what I was hoping to solve moving to Ubuntu).

Do you have any suggestions for a novice friendly distro that has (or can easily be set up to have) a dock (that can be hidden) and hot corner window switching like gnome under KDE?

eltimablo ,

That's just a thing that KDE does, regardless of which distro you run it on. If you want stability, Debian is probably a good choice, but KDE is KDE wherever you go.

Dotdev ,
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Well understandable , since thats the default look. But KDE is one of the most customizable DE, you could make it look like anything you want.

Dave ,
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I run Gnome (Ubuntu currently) and have minor stability issues. I also just… kinda don’t like it. Previously I was running Fedora and liked it more but again, stability issues (which was what I was hoping to solve moving to Ubuntu).

Do you have any suggestions for a novice friendly distro that has (or can easily be set up to have) a dock and hot corner window switching like gnome under KDE?

Dotdev ,
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By stability issues you mean does it crash or too updated.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

In Fedora, constant messages that something has gone wrong and would I like to report it.

Ubuntu seems to kernal panic too often for me.

Dotdev ,
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What are you running it on ? Specs

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

A framework laptop, first generation. It’s pretty decent, unlikely that specs will be an issue. But the hardware might be related to the stability.

Dotdev ,
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Maybe try arch based distro like garuda and endeavouros since those would be the most easiest to fix if any problems.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll check them out!

iloverocks ,

It exist a spin of fedora and ubuntu with a KDE desktop but you could just install KDE on you existing ubuntu desktop itsfoss.com/install-kde-on-ubuntu/

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

That’s a great idea, that way I can test it out without too much effort. I’ll give this a go.

odium ,

Yeah, and Garuda’s default KDE config is very mac like.

MeshPotato ,

Not sure what to think of that large space use across the bottom on a widescreen display.

That’s one reason why I downgraded from windows 11 to windows 10.

In standard KDE, the standard “start menu” at least is quite thin.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

I run Gnome with Ubuntu, and hide the dock (tried to set it up more like Fedora, which I liked more).

ReakDuck ,

KDE is for those who love customization. You can create an alien like Desktop that isn’t Mac nor Windows similar. Its more about being able to change everything or most things.

Gnome should be more stable… because you can’t change it into a buggy custom setup (except you use Extensions)

vis4valentine OP ,
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I think the people who likes the macos aesthetic are using KDE more than GNOME.

starman , to unixporn in Im trying out some simple KDE customization on Garuda, what you think?
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Looks really cool. Also it’s the first time I see this distro.

Rayspekt ,

I'm using it as well. For me it was a great entry point to Linux. I wanted to start with Arch or a Arch distro right out of the box and Garuda works like a charm for setting up and maintaining everything. I will try setting up Arch by myself for the next time, but for now it's perfect for me.

darthfabulous42069 , to memes in Berry Club

The definition of a berry doesn’t make sense then.

newIdentity ,

There are multiple definitions for berry

build_a_bear_group , to memes in Berry Club
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would bananas being seedless mean that they are also not berries?

justastranger ,

Bananas have seeds, they’re just incredibly degenerated in commercial bananas. Next time you have one, break off a chunk and count the black specks inside. Each one would’ve been a seed if not for generations of human intervention.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Bananas have seeds. We’ve just bred them for hundreds of generations so the seeds are small and so soft you don’t even notice them.

DakRalter ,
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Here’s a website with a picture of a banana with seeds

sciencemeetsfood.org/rise-fall-bananas/

LuckyLu , to unixporn in Im trying out some simple KDE customization on Garuda, what you think?

Love it! It’s like macOS, Windows 7 and the edgy GAMER™️ aesthetic had a kid.

vis4valentine OP ,
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Thank you.

MoralisticCommunist , to memes in 🙃😵💀

The masses lack bread? Let them go on a “diet”

brennesel , (edited ) to memes in Berry Club
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The taxonomy in biology can be really confusing. Potatoes (only their fruits), peppers, cucumbers, eggplants, avocados, lemons, oranges, kiwifruit and papayas are also in the berry club.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Potatoes are tubers, I don’t think they fit the botanical definition of a fruit. They contain no seeds, for example.

The rest are though. Pumpkins was the one that always blew my mind.

jmcs ,

The potato plant poisonous fruit is a berry though.

Blastasaurus ,

The most forbidden Vodka…

brennesel ,
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You are correct, but the potato plant bears potato fruits, which are classified as berries. I will clarify that in my comment.

Mothra ,
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I hope you mean the taxonomy in botany, things are much clearer on the zoological side

brennesel ,
@brennesel@feddit.de avatar

Well, I’m not a biologist and even all my houseplants are constantly dying. For me, biology as a whole is confusing.

Klear ,

Here’s the thing…

VikingHippie , to memes in Berry Club

I wonder if they’d consider Chuck eligible, though. He was undeniably a human but also a Berry.

JohnDClay , to memes in Expectation vs Reality

We do have skyborg coming for more military AIs.

VikingHippie ,

Leave it to the US military to doom the world… 🤦

yogthos OP ,
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A fun sci fi short story on the subject rifters.com/real/shorts/PeterWatts_Malak.pdf

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