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Theharpyeagle , to memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser

As someone who doesn’t drink beer, reading this thread feels like I’m trying to read Dutch: I definitely know some of these words, but the rest is a mystery.

I kinda thought all beer was made roughly the same with just different ingredients, now I’m falling down a deep Wikipedia rabbithole.

negativeyoda , (edited )

It gets nutty.

The Bavarian purity laws defined beer in that part of the world as something that can only have hops, water and wheat. German beers tend to be straightforward and balanced

Belgians had no such compunctions and some will put fruit and other stuff in their beers. Their beers are a bit more out there and yeast (clovey) forward. Lots of Belgian beers also add candy sugar that gets fermented off which is how you get some golden ales that don’t have heavy bodies but have ABVs of 9% and up (Bud is 4% and wine stays around 15%)

British beers tend to be malt forward (ie, biscuity) ales. Legend has it that when the Brits shipped beer to their far off colonies that they over hopped the beer (hops are the bitter element that also acts as a preservative) the deployed soldiers came home and asked for the pale ales like they had grown to love in India and the IPA was born

Americans kind of picked and chose from a lot of the styles around the world and true to form made them bigger, bolder and borderline obnoxious. A lot of the hops being grown these days have been bred to taste certain ways which is why some IPAs taste like citrus or pine trees.

Edit: typos

gnuhaut ,

The Bavarian purity laws defined beer in that part of the world as something that can only have hops, water and wheat.

Hops, water and barley. I think not using wheat was kind of the point actually, since wheat can be made into bread, and you wouldn’t want a bread shortage, would you? Banning others from brewing wheat beers, and then giving a monopoly to your own court brewery to corner the market, is also a baller business move.

negativeyoda ,

Bah! You’re right.

And that’s funny: I never knew it was for someone else to have a monopoly on what beers. Thank you!

qyron , to memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser

Meanwhile, in France, wine consumption is down due to craft beers to the point the government is going to spend 200 millions to prevent market crash.

Not being a beer drinker I have to ask: why the IPA craze? Aren’t lagers, stouts and whatever other beers an option for crafters?

aaronstc ,

Basically, despite all the vocal complaints, IPAs sell better.

I enjoy IPAs personally but it does get frustrating when you want something different.

nik282000 ,
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I love an IPA but you need to have a pallet cleanser from time to time. I’m a big fan of ‘Purity Law’ beers, they tend to be predictable, mellow flavour, and light to medium alcohol content. Perfect for lawn mowing, BBQing, or working on the car.

SwampYankee ,

Perfect for lawn mowing, BBQing, or working on the car.

Oh beautiful, for spacious skies…

sheds a tear

escapesamsara ,

While not the cheapest, IPAs are relatively easy to make and extremely easy to iterate on. IPAs in general allow brewers to fine-tune flavors and thus pump out multiple novel flavors quickly in order to find a market. If you go the stout or lager route, there’s really only so much wiggle room as they’re mostly ‘solved’ beers; as in buyers know exactly what they want to taste, and you better deliver that taste. IPAs are also really, really easy to dial in alcohol content without giving up flavor, where as lagers like Budweiser can only lower alcohol content while lowering the overall taste profile, hence the term ‘piss water’ for low alcohol lagers.

bemenaker ,

Ipa allow brewers to mask brewing mistakes by burying them in hop flavor. And if you think Budweiser is the only example of a lager, you shouldn’t be talking about beer. You can create 5-6% lagers without sacrificing flavor. There are tons of good lagers out there, Budweiser isn’t one of them.

escapesamsara ,

I think most people would agree, in general, lagers are the worst beer; but sure there could be a good low alcohol lager somewhere out there. Stouts will always win out in my book so maybe my tastes don’t align well with others.

bemenaker ,

Considering lagers are the number 1 selling beer in the world, you’re wrong. You know that lager is a broad term that actually covers several styles, including some of the most popular specialties. The fact that you think a lager means Budweiser shows that you don’t understand the conversation. Helles, maibock, bock, Vienna’s, Octoberfest, pilsner, are all lagers and that’s not the full list. American macrobrew is not the definition of a lager, which is why a class was made called.american light lager to cover those.

Thetimefarm ,

This is just ignorant lol. If you don’t like lager you don’t like lager but that doesn’t mean it’s the worst beer. I don’t really like stout but I’m not going around saying it’s the worst, it’s all preference. There are tons of different types of lager if you actually look, plenty of micro brewers make them.

negativeyoda ,

Saying lager is a style is kind of a misnomer, lagers use a different type of fermentation that takes longer than ales. Budweiser is a mass produced riff on the (Czech) pilsner style which is a lager. The thing with Bud is a lot of these sorts of beers use adjuncts in the malt bill which gives them a light body/ flavor. Instead of high quality wheat, there’s a lot of filler gains like rice and corn to the point where some can almost be considered gluten free. At the end of the day those sorts of beers are impressive in that they can create so much of it in different facilities and have it be so consistent.

Saying pilsners are bad after drinking only Bud is like eating McDonald’s and thinking all beef is terrible

Side note: Baltic Porters can be brewed as ales or lagers and they’re probably right up your alley

eestileib ,

I was with you until the very end. Budweiser is a good lager, like Imagine Dragons is good pop music.

This does not apply in any way to Bud Light.

bemenaker ,

IPAs are still riding a popularity high in the US. It’s easy to make, you don’t have to be as precise and careful with your beer when you make them, the hops will hide your mistakes. Sign of a bad brewery, is they only sell IPAs. Currently in the US, IPAs are the top selling style, unfortunately. Saisons are so much better, for example.

negativeyoda ,

Saisons aren’t better. All taste is subjective. If I never get served another “bubblegummy with hint of white pepper, barnyard and Meyer lemon” I’ll be happy

The IPA bros are annoying, but the “over it” pilsner and saison snobs aren’t much better.

1847953620 ,

I was over everything before it became hipster mainstream cool.

eestileib ,

I homebrewed all the desire for wacky beer out of myself.

GarfieldYaoi , to memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser
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Help, I’m stuck in a boring-ass red state so even some IPAs would be an IMPROVEMENT. Nothing but “Natural Light” here now that Bud Light got cancelled.

eestileib ,

Oh wow that’s a big slide. Condolences.

SwampYankee ,

Sorry, IPAs are too gay for your neighbors and their extremely secure masculinity.

mihnt , to memes in Most refreshing shower of my life 😫
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I did what now?

TheControlled , to memes in I'd saw off my leg for my grocery store to start carrying something besides shitty IPA's and Budweiser

God, I thought I was the only one. relief

SirKlingoftheDrains , to memes in Most refreshing shower of my life 😫

places hand over butthole, smiling nervously ‘Yes. I too use this soap for my… “balls”’

tdawg , to memes in Engage thrusters

Wat

LexaMaridia , to memes in Most refreshing shower of my life 😫

I love mint. Lots of bugs hate it, it makes aches less, tastes refreshing, and also mint ice cream. XD

Frozengyro ,

You forgot about the cool cool balls!

Franzia , to memes in Most refreshing shower of my life 😫

I got menthol exfoliating soap gifted to me for christmas one year. I still have them in storage… because the feeling is so intense I only want to use it a few times a year, usually in summer. I mean this experience is so much sensation its like, holiday levels of memorable for me.

beef_curds , to memes in Most refreshing shower of my life 😫
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Nag champa soap tho. Doesn’t make you feel like you shoved an icecube up your asshole sadness but smells even nicer.

zakobjoa , to memes in sad shitpost noises
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very sad shitpost noises

WindInTrees , to memes in Looks fine to me

Repost to !antimeme!

Knusper , to memes in Looks fine to me

Sneaky…

wolf , to linux in [OPINION] Gnome Online Accounts (Google)

I have and had my issues with Gnome, but the Online Accounts and the gnome shell integration are really good and work OOTB with 2-factor authorization for the popular providers.

If the Gnome developers would finally outgrow their ‘users are too stupid for tags’ position, it would be awesome to have such an integration with Online Accounts. (The only thing I envy the macOS + icloud crowd for.)

PlexSheep ,
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What are tags in this context?

wolf ,

tags/labels like you are working on project a, b,c. In macOS, you can now tag files, emails, messages, notes with tag_a, tag_b, tag_c for their respective projects and find everything belonging to project a by searching for tag_a.

The Gnome developers refused to add tagging functionality, because it would be ‘confusing’ for user to have more than one way (filesystem) to find things… I mean, if the average Apple user can be trusted to use tags, I see no reason why the average Gnome user would be overwhelmed.

PlexSheep ,
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Never heard of that. Interesting concept.

TeryVeneno ,

I mean the concept is kinda cool, but I really don’t think the average Apple user is using those. I didn’t even know that existed when I was using macOS a couple months back. Even most Apple power users I know don’t use those or know of them. Probably the hardcore apple fans use them but I don’t know of anyone else that does. It does seem confusing in the long term.

wolf ,

Don’t let me rant about the average Apple user/fanboy/power user - way too many in my line of business … :-P

Using tags is non trivial, the thing is: If you need tags to organize your data, there are not many alternatives to tags. It is IMHO a killer application for knowledge workers and to this day, there are no good solutions on Linux, which is a shame. (Of course, org-mode has tags, but I don’t want to learn EMACS).

son_named_bort , to memes in sad shitpost noises

Batman’s a scientist

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