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DoucheAsaurus , to memes in Dem feey
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Show us your feet OP

Alex-Hyatt687 , to memes in Real

this is a certified r/urbanhell moment

Chonnawonga ,

r/suburbanhell?

Squorlple , to reddit in Reddit is now using GPT-powered bots to astroturf 😂
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I studied bot patterns on Reddit for a few years while using the site and was active in their takedown. My username is the same on there if you want to see the history of my involvement. What drove me to stop being so involved in bot takedowns is the extent to which Reddit as a site was continually redesigned to favor bots. In fact, I woke up today to a 3 day suspension for reporting a spam bot as a spam bot. I think what we need to examine in these cases, if possible, is if the bots were made strictly for the purpose of contesting blackouts (i.e. by Reddit themselves) or if they were made by a hobbyist or spammer. Given that these are on r/programming, that makes it seem more likely that a hobbyist programmer made these bots for a laugh or something, rather than it being an inside job. If the usual resources of Reddit’s API were accessible enough to provide a total history of these bot accounts’ posts and comments, then that would help to clarify (this is what I mean about Reddit redesigns favoring bots). On the subject, I think Lemmy needs to start implementing preemptive anti-bot features while it is in an embryonic stage of becoming a large social media site (or a pseudo-social media site like Reddit) to future-proof its development

elax102 ,
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What kind of bot detection features should Lemmy add in your opinion?

Squorlple ,
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I’m very new to this site so I’m not sure what all already exists. Some features that come to mind based on my experience on Reddit and other sites:

  • Ability to search the entire site to see if a string of text (or multiple select strings of text) has already appeared there, including removed content. On Reddit, this was useful for seeing if an account has copied the comment, the text within a post, or the post title from elsewhere on the site. SocialGrep, Reveddit, and Unddit were my preferred sources of this info for Reddit. Text may also have been copied by a bot from other sites, but the original tends to be more accessible in those cases.
  • Ability to search the entire site to see if an image has already appeared there. This was essentially only relevant for repost bots and for bots that recognize an image from another post and re-comment from that other post. I do have concerns about this becoming relevant in the future for comments that contain images. TinEye and reverse image search on Google were my preferred sources of this info, but I don’t know if Lemmy posts will show up on those sites. u/RepostSleuthBot and the like were also helpful, especially if summonable in the comments.
  • Blocking users should only filter them from the blocker’s feed, rather than make the blocked user unable to comment on the blocker’s posts and comments. Spammers and scammers would abuse this system to prevent human users from calling them out on being spammers and scammers. While this design makes sense for sites based on personal profiles such as FaceBook or Twitter, it does not work for sites categorized by subject matter with impersonal user profiles.
  • Say what you will about the bad aspects of 4chan (and you should!), but the use of Captchas prior to publishing a post or comment seems to majorly mitigate bot activity.
  • This doesn’t seem to be a problem on Lemmy, but on Reddit, not all of the information of a spam report was sent to the subreddit mods. A report for Spam -> Harmful Bots would tell the admins that it was a Harmful Bots report, but the mods would only see it as a generic spam report and not be fully informed of the issue. Also, unbeknownst to mods, admins could link a subreddit rule report to a sitewide rule report. What I think Lemmy could improve on in this regard is to keep the openended custom report option, but also include pre-written report options for community rules, instance rules, and sitewide rules.
  • Some sort of indicator for groups of accounts which seem to be commenting only on the exact same posts as each other, which commonly are bots.
  • Entirely dependent on the subreddit or community, requiring some sort of verification post or other verification with a photograph of a paper with their username, the community name, and current date on it prior to permitting the user to post/comment may be beneficial.
  • A sitewide blacklist structured like r/BotDefense, wherein suspect accounts can be submitted and, if determined to be bot, will be automatically blacklisted from participating communities. Blacklist appeals will also be essential just due to human error.
FaptainHandSolo ,

As someone who had my 16+ year old account on Reddit permabanned for writing antibot scripts trying to keep the community I modded free from scammer and spammers, this is spot on.

postmeridiem , to reddit in Reddit is now using GPT-powered bots to astroturf 😂
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sounddrill ,

“Promoting diversity and inclusion”

Arch linux/rust enjoyers: thigh highs or get tf out

postmeridiem ,
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It’s in r/programming, they’re all already wearing thigh highs

sounddrill ,

Then there’s no inclusivity issue anymore

TheImpressiveX , to reddit in Reddit is now using GPT-powered bots to astroturf 😂
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Sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot comment on this post.

Mcballs1234 , to programmerhumor in Rust g*me
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The Linux users are in the god damn walls

TwilightKiddy , to programmerhumor in Yup, Javascript can go F@#! itself

This one is one of my favourite JS quirks:

JS quirk

LeFrog ,
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Wait wtf is happening there?

usernamesAreTricky ,

parseInt is meant for strings so it converts the number there into a string. Once the numbers get small enough it starts representing it with scientific notation. So 0.0000001 converts into “1e-7” where it then starts to ignore the e-7 part because that’s not a valid int, so it is left with 1

…plainenglish.io/why-parseint-0-0000001-0-8fe1aec…

bettse , to programmerhumor in Yup, Javascript can go F@#! itself
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This build on that humorously: www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat

Bjoern_Tantau , to programmerhumor in Yup, Javascript can go F@#! itself

Can someone explain this? I mean, the last result. Usually I can at least understand Javascript’s or PHP’s quirks. But this time I’m stumped.

mycus ,
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JS null and undefined shenanigans


basically:

  1. bigger an lesser comparison types convert null to zero, so is zero bigger or lesser than zero? no
  2. == is fucky and to it null only equals undefined and undefined only equals null (and themselves), so no
  3. is zero bigger than or equal to zero? yeah
Bjoern_Tantau ,

Ugh, thanks, of course. Stupid brain.

mycus ,
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I'm starting to think JS maintainers have a thing against mathematicians

Quik2007 ,

more likely against humans

Mars , to programmerhumor in Yup, Javascript can go F@#! itself
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I know it’s a joke, but it’s an old one and it doesn’t make a lot of sense in this day and age.

Why are you comparing null to numbers? Shouldn’t you be assuring your values are valid first? Why are you using the “cast everything to the type you see fit and compare” operator?

Other languages would simply fail. Once more JavaScript greatest sin is not throwing an exception when you ask it to do things that don’t make sense.

OsrsNeedsF2P OP ,

Shouldn’t you be assuring your values are valid first?

Step 1: Get to prod

Step 2-10: Add features

Step 11: Sell the company before it bites you

julianh , to programmerhumor in Yup, Javascript can go F@#! itself

Ok some of these I understand but what the fuck. Why.

Edit: ok I have a theory. == checks equality without casting to any types, so they’re not equal. But < and > are numeric operations, so null gets cast to 0. So <= and >= cast it to 0, and it’s equal to 0, so it’s true.

RagingToad ,

I’m not sure if you really want to know, but:

greater than, smaller than, will cast the type so it will be 0>0 which is false, ofcourse. 0>=0 is true.

Now == will first compare types, they are different types so it’s false.

Also I’m a JavaScript Dev and if I ever see someone I work with use these kind of hacks I’m never working together with them again unless they apologize a lot and wash their dirty typing hands with… acid? :-)

edit: as several people already pointed out, my answer is not accurate. The real solution was mentioned by mycus

fubo , to programmerhumor in Project Managers and Mushrooms

This was originally an engineers’ complaint about managers’ honesty regarding business trouble: Managers think we’re mushrooms; they keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit.

CoinOperatedBoi , to memes in The woke left!
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I’m an anarchist who gets called a tankie on Reddit for using the word “imperialism” and I approve this meme

P00P_L0LE , to memes in The woke left!
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Michael Parenti, from Blackshirts and Reds:

During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

P00P_L0LE , to memes in The woke left!
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downvoting it doesn’t make it any less true :)

flibbertigibbet ,

WFT is wrong with you?

P00P_L0LE ,
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I read books 😱😱

balerion ,
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i’ve read marx. at precisely no point does he say anything justifying the various atrocities state capitalist countries have committed. i think he’s wrong about some stuff, but even if you accept that his word is gospel, tankies are still just people who took leftist principles as an excuse for the imposing the kind of brutal authoritarianism that leftists are supposed to be against.

P00P_L0LE ,
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If you’ve read Marx, then you’ve surely read Engels as well?

On Authority - Marxists Internet Archive www.marxists.org/archive/marx/…/authority.htm

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