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Ziggyred , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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I expected the Linux desktop market share to be a bit higher since Windows 11 can’t run on low spec hardware (and it’s trash).

CataclysmZA ,
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That will see more increases over time, especially as Windows 10 EOL approaches.

buckykat ,

I predict that so many people will run 10 past EOL that Microsoft will be forced to extend it like they did for XP and 7.

CataclysmZA ,
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Oh it’s going to be bad. Really bad. Microsoft said over a billion people were using Windows 10 & 11, but the vast majority of those were on machines that already ran Windows 7/8.1 just fine (and may have been upgraded forcefully).

They tried once to limit hardware compatibility as Intel was switching over to 10th gen by giving people a cut-off point where new versions of Windows 10 would not work on hardware older than Intel 8th gen, but it was so poorly received that they walked it back (and did it with Windows 11 instead).

An actual EOL is going to be very tough to pull off because everyone expects their computers to last more than three years now.

buckykat ,

XP released in 2001, only stopped getting support in 2014, and got an emergency security patch as recently as 2019. Expecting computers to last more than 3 years isn’t new.

emi ,
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Meanwhile they say 12 will come out in 2024. Lol

jaykstah ,

I think most people who are already using windows will just stay on 10 for as long as possible rather than switching. I had a friend still using windows 7 by the time 11 rolled around. But once 10 hits EOL maybe the momentum will convince more of those to switch to a Linux distro

ghariksforge ,

It’s higher in countries that are poorer and run old hardware. For example Linux has more than 10% market share in India.

LeHappStick , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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2023 year of Linux HERE WE GO!

victron ,
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Og, this is it, finally! Let’s teach those windows goons a lesson!

/s

sedawk , to programmerhumor in I also had to post one of these
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It could have just said: c++ programming for masochists.

einsteinx2 ,
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It could have just said: c++ programming

vvvvv , to fediverse in Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook

I don’t know. I would like to subscribe to someone on Threads from Mastodon (since both are Twitter alternatives), if they don’t have Mastodon account (which let’s be honest they probably don’t). Zuck does not get any of my data (besides what’s available publicly anyway). If Threads decides to go full EEE, I’ll stop getting updates from people on Threads, same as I don’t get updates from people on IG right now. I think proliferation of ActivityPub protocol would be the greatest advantage.

Moreover, I think we should follow the email architecture - I might use i.e. Proton Mail, but it does not prevent me from sending emails to Gmail, which I think is a bad provider, who collects a lot of user data. In fact if Proton Mail forbade sending email to Gmail I would be really displeased about that.

The goal is to allow people to choose where they want to go and ActivityPub is what can help with that, unlike blocking Threads.

the_green_bastard ,

I couldn’t agree more. Racing to block Threads when it’s completely unclear if Threads will even actually ever federate and what the implications of them federating will even be seems incredibly short sighted. Imagine how much innovation would have been lost on the internet if web server admins raced to block Google Chrome from accessing their content because they have some personal beef with Google.

Cyberflunk ,

As I understand it, and I probably don’t, you can subscribe, you just won’t see anything from threads except what’s re-shared, or you’ve subscribed to.

You may see things from other instances your instance has federated with.

Little8Lost ,

i ONLY want to conter your argument with email and activityhub: on email people choose to send stuff to a very limited amount of people except maybe newsletter and scammers. with threads, which should have already multiple times of osers compared to the fediverse, will flood the content to /all. Of course there are cool people but i think the entire fediverse culture will be blown away by threads in an instand. And with their weird moderation (especcially small) servers here will have large problems trying to moderate it

but by email there is no mass broadcasting to the public so it does not need to be moderated

vvvvv ,

Email is not only 1:(small N). Maillists do exist and and are used to facilitate discussions between a large amount of people via email. They are also often public so anonymous readers and search indexers can use them.

/all is certainly an interesting thing - default Active sorting calculates a rank based on the score and time of the latest comment, with decay over time. If Threads are connected they would dominate /all. But there can certainly be adjustments, we can create a new sorting style, and make it default. For example:

  • Posts are deprioritized based on MAU or some similar metric. The larger the MAU, the lower the post is ranked assuming the same engagement. If the post got 100 upvotes on an instance with 1000 users, it’s probably a much more interesting post, than the post that got 100 upvotes on an instance with 100 000 000 users.
  • Posts are (de)prioritized based on instance source. For example setting Threads to -1000 would effectively remove it, setting Threads to -50 would allow you to see only super active posts. On the other hand if we want to see more content from less populated instance we might set it (i.e. german lemmy feddit.de) to the score of 100.
  • Instances can provide a limited number or percentage of /all - i.e. after we got 10 posts from Threads, stop getting posts from this instance.
Little8Lost ,

i did not know about the weights. That is very interesting, good written and i would say that you topped my argument. Thank you ^^

DasherPack , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

I tend to not believe these numbers: Do you really think 1 in every 33 people you know use Linux? I think this number is wishful thinking.

stergro ,

One in 33 is like one nerd in every school class, sounds plausible to me.

tourist , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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Weird the percent symbol in the post headline didn’t show up until I tapped the upvote button.

erre ,
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Extra content in exchange for an upvote 🤔

scthatheworm , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

Ummm I gave up on Linux desktop being a mainstream thing about… 6 years ago. But Linux as a desktop needs to exist anyway, there’s enough usage.

itadakimasu ,
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Because I primarily use a laptop, Linux desktop is a no no for me. I spent years trying to get my trackpad to behave as beautifully as it does with MacOS and could never get it.

That alone is enough to drive me off Linux Desktop … For now.

I’m rooting for it though

scthatheworm ,

I gave up after my third gig where I could use Linux to work… but had to be my own it support, and make all the corporate tooling work on top of it. This job am now using the provided macbook… I do hate the weird non-Linux gawk, sed, curl, etc, and brew is very underwhelming, but I stopped having to spend days making random corporate spyware work because compliance, and then have to recover lost time in actual work.

This was a rant-y way of saying I agree xD

unconsciousvoidling , to memes in my first meme ever

Although that type of ai is the low hanging fruit… I also believe long term that will be by design. Your masters have nothing but contempt for you and given a choice they will never allow you to just chill and make art.

blah , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

I can feel it. This is it. 2023 will be the year.

madcaesar ,

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Hawke , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

3.08 what? I think you forgot a unit there.

fugepe OP ,

Celsius, my bad.

Hawke , (edited )

That’s hot.

Thanks for fixing it!

iso , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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Chrome OS bigger than Linux? Interesting…

fugepe OP ,

Yes. It comes pre installed in the chromo books and also Chrome OS is literally Linux too.

Hawke ,

Not possible since ChromeOS is a subset of Linux.

Nawor3565 ,

Sure, in the same way Android is a subset of Linux. Their appeal and use-cases are completely different, and in no way are GNU/Linux and ChromeOS practically interchangeable.

tieme ,

And that’s why I can tell my doctor I’ve been eating more fruit.

Nawor3565 ,

Schools are a HUGE user of Chromebooks. Most highschools in the US lend each of their students a Chromebook to use, and that alone accounts for a huge userbase.

maegul , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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Unfortunately, it seems like the main thing going on in that graph is the rise and fall of “Unknown”.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Looks like something to do with Windows, so probably incorrect reporting of Windows 11 for a couple months or something.

I think it’s interesting that macOS is getting so popular. I’m guessing people got excited about the M1/M2 Macs and that’s starting to add up to interesting numbers.

maegul ,
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But the pickup in macOS numbers in 2023? Intersection between the M-chip branding/hype and people needing to buy new laptops?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, that’s what I’m guessing. Now that there’s a second gen, people are also probably willing to take a risk on it. People hear that it’s faster than Intel chips, and they’re seeing that Apple is continuing to develop it, so they’re likely interested in trying it out.

I think it’ll have a pretty hard cap though because macOS isn’t very compatible for gaming, but I guess we’ll see if double digit market share is enough to interest the gaming industry to target it.

maegul ,
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Yea. My impression though is that they’ve made their first move toward supporting games in their latest announcements. Some tooling for converting the code base to work with the M-chips and even running a chip emulator shim if you want despite the performance drop. Saw some video of someone playing a game at ok frame rates with it, so they could be serious about finally getting gaming happening to some extent.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m interested to see if Apple continues to work on game support, or if they just leave it as is. The current support is a start, but Apple has historically not cared about games, and that perception will take a lot of effort to reverse.

fugepe OP ,

Don’t mind of your neighbors. Rejoice of what’s being accomplished

maegul ,
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Well, my point was that I’m not sure this is an entirely credible source.

ghariksforge ,

It could be people masking their agent string, which probably has a high Linux userbase.

OrangeXarot , to programmerhumor in Tabs vs Spaces

python interpreter starting to crying

theshatterstone54 , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

Link? According to who? And where? Worldwide?

fugepe OP ,

Link added

21racecar12 , to programmerhumor in Scrum Master

They quietly jot down everyone’s updates, circle the words they don’t understand, attempt to look up what those words mean, then say them in the next stand up completely out of context and incorrectly.

tupcakes ,
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Ooof. I felt this post and this comment.

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