I’m on the fence here. Luckily, at least, I think community/subreddit-based sites like Lemmy/Reddit don’t have “network effects” that are as “sticky” as Mastodon/Twitter, because with Lemmy/Reddit you don’t need to build up a follower list to start getting value. You just join the community and it’s as if you immediately “followed” a bunch of people who share your interests. You don’t even need to make an account - you can just bookmark a community and lurk, and maybe you eventually make an account to start interacting. It’s a great “on-ramp” - very low barrier to entry/usefulness.
I think that’s why Lemmy was able to take off so fast. It relies on community-level coordination, rather than every individual user having to make their own choice to switch, and try to get all their followers/followees to switch. So even if Meta did add a community-style mode, I don’t think it’d eat into the Lemmy userbase. It is hard to be sure though, and I respect the choices of those instances that have blocked/defederated.
Mastodon admins have a harder decision to make I think - there’s an opportunity to get very quick growth by effectively adding a lot more followable users/content. A bunch of people don’t like Meta/Facebook, but want to follow their friends, and so they may use Mastodon to do that, which could get a lot more people to move to “real” fediverse apps/sites like Mastodon. I know a lot of people that are on Threads now, and I’m looking forward to being able to follow them from Mastodon, rather than being forced to get Threads to keep up to date with what they’re working on.
No fences up my ass here, I didn’t jump so quickly to lemmy to be immediately joined to fucken Facebook. Like. At all. I’d bet a quick poll would speak loudly
I dont think you’ve taken into account what people in lemmy value the most.
Their principles. They mostly joined lemmy because one of their principle is against big corp controlling us for their own purpose.
That’s why threads is being blocked preemptively. Because they are corpo. Now compare that to exploding heads instance. The slowness of blocking another instance because of hate speech and bigotry. It’s because exploding heads issue does not or barely touched most lemmy peoples principle trigger. They allowed it to exist first for a long time before even considering of blocking it
UPDATE: Those rumours have been confirmed as at least one Mastodon admin, kev, from fosstodon.org, has been contacted to take part in an off-the-record meeting with Meta. He had the best possible reaction: he refused politely and, most importantly, published the email to be transparent with its users. Thanks kev!
kev should’ve accepted the meeting to see if he could infer the intent…
Why is this good news exactly? Doesn’t this just mean that people who want to see content from Threads will be driven to that app instead? Why not allow Lemmy users to see Threads content without them actually having to support Meta?
this article here gives a pretty good rundown of the likely intent of any sort of federated integration with any meta product, with examples of the same thing happening twice before with other technologies.
supporting it puts them in a position to “help” it… as they “help” they implement new closed source features… then drop support.
much of the growth that would occur during the “support/help” phase would be on their proprietary iteration and would not benefit the fediverse.
the trajectory would likely be co-opting the fediverse, obscuring their service from the fediverse, while building their services behind closed doors, and then dropping support.
they’re recognizing the fediverse as a reasonable competitor, and this is a move intended to kill it.
Uh, wouldnt this make more sense for mastodon instances to defed? Can we even see mastodon posts on lemmy? I know they can post here, but its always like a lost in translation weird post.
I think it’s got less to do with whatever is posted online and it’s more about the under the hood stuff like what devices you decide to use, what networks are being used to access their services, what contacts they have, and other shit like that.
People left reddit because reddit started charging for data access, and not the same people say they don’t want others to have access to their public data.
I thought it’s cause they didn’t want it to be flooded/overrun by the massive amount of posts from threads. let’s face it, threads is going to have a waaaaay bigger userbase. I mean shit, it already does if Instagram accounts automatically have a threads account.
why would you move from twitter, it is truly a more open forum now, dont care what views you have free speech should be the same for every one. people have thin skin and that just leaves them naturally as targets.
Once I made an informal survey at a previous workplace. I was shocked how many Mac users who also used Docker had no idea that there was a Linux VM in-between. 🥲
This reminds me a bit of Sync, formally for Reddit. They’re bringing it to Lemmy at some point in the future. Love all the new apps coming out for here, great work :)
I don’t really get this. I see people were worried about Threads app/web app permissions (which I signed up and no permissions were granted immediately beyond notifications). Regardless, wouldn’t staying federated with threads.net allow everyone to interact with them all from the more reasonably permissioned app of their choice, like Jerboa?
It’s more like just in case of legal issue. Big corporations tends to declare more than what they actually use in “Data Safety/Privacy” just to say they consent in court. It doesn’t mean they collect or use all the things they declared.
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