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10_0 , to memes in Lift like China, bro 🇨🇳💪

cough capitalist China cough

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

Oh look another lib who doesn’t know what they’re talking about farquaad-point

hecklerundkochli , to memes in some people on this platform

There is a massive difference between liking a concept or the implementation of that concept. Communism is an utopia, socialism is seen as the way to get there.

Socialism did not proof to be viable in reality, with dictators claiming to set up communist states, while not setting up working socialist societies.

The thing is that implementing such a society includes a massive restructuring of government and ownership of goods. Those measures have a very strong tendency to dissolve in civil wars and dictatorships. It is of course an option to label anyone who doesn’t want to give up resources an enemy of the class / state and imprison and torture them, but it does not create a stable society in which people actually choose to live, if they can decide on that.

Shit is complex.

Recant , (edited )

I would caution you about socialism being a way to get to communism.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, the founders of communist ideology, believed democratic socialism was a sham and true communism could only be achieved through a violent overthrow of the bourgeois.

The complex restructuring you mentioned is why they thought a transition from socialism to communism would not work.

Source: stephenhicks.org/…/marxs-philosophy-and-the-neces…

irmoz ,

You’re conflating the terms “socialism” and “democratic socialism”.

Moonrise2473 , to selfhosted in Move UnRaid from metal to Proxmox

If you want to just use it exclusively as a Nas, then why not truenas?

I have a unRAID server but the nas part is nowhere as good as truenas (slower, worse ad integration)

Main issue with virtualization is the bootable USB with the serial number that’s used as DRM

Son_of_dad , to memes in Guardian Angel.

Reminder that this “Angel” was a deadbeat abusive father, who let his new wife abuse and terrorize his children.

pimento64 ,

Are we not even going to consider the possibility that his children may have had bad vibes / been unpleasant to be around??

papalonian ,

Usually when I get into a relationship with someone and their kids have had vibes I immediately start abusing them, like no questions asked

some_guy ,

Didn’t know that. He was also in Basketball. That’s as much as I know beyond he was a race car driver. But you know who else was? Jimmy.

Edit: Oh, sorry, that was Jerry.

papalonian ,

Don’t let @Grayox hear you saying that. He may not like you speaking ill on his God.

theangryseal ,

Well thank you for telling us. I can’t wait for the onion article about how folks can’t wait to talk about it.

I hope it grows to the point that people say, “earn hart dead bait dad. Bad prsn. Not gud.”

TheRealKuni ,

And also could very well have survived the crash that killed him had he been wearing the Head and Neck Support (HANS) device that was available, but not mandatory, at the time. He called it “that damn noose” and claimed the tethers would more likely hang him than save him in the event of a crash. One of the greatest protective devices in motorsport since the helmet and the seatbelt and he eschewed it and suffered the consequences.

antidote101 , to memes in freedom!

OPs meme seems like the most accurate version I’ve seen in a long time.

JohnBrownNote , to memes in Self-Made

um ackshually Musk’s dad was only part-owner of that mine, so we give this two pinocchios

Gorillatactics , to memes in Self-Made

The only self-made man I acknowledge is Philip J. Fry.

Doxatek ,

Bet he didn’t animate himself smh he owed his success to the story board artists

Lightfire228 , to memes in some people on this platform

You know, I thought that, with Lemmy being less popular than Reddit, there would be less political propaganda messaging on here

But it seems I’m mistaken

loonsun ,

Lemmy is less popular and therefore more niche, meaning you’ll get smaller communities with stronger opinions, and therefore way more political extremism

epicsninja ,

It’s only like two guys that have been doing this for the last week, and I have no idea what their game is. Lemmy doesn’t have enough people for the propaganda to make a meaningful difference, even if everyone did buy into it. Are they stupid?

imnotfromkaliningrad OP ,
@imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

what do you mean? the lack of cia talking points here is really refreshing imho. on reddit everything is drowned in a sea of “communism bad”-bots.

emidio ,

This is not propaganda what do you mean? It’s literally citing socialist states

Btw Lemmy is communist, created by Dessalines, first instance is literally lemmy.ml for Marxism-Leninism

irmoz ,

Uh, your ideas about where you’d find socialism are a bit backwards

Lightfire228 ,

I said nothing about socialism

I said “political propaganda messaging”, of which i find annoying even if they support my political views

irmoz ,

I straight up don’t believe you.

retrospectology , to memes in For anyone asking: Yes, I am paid by the Chinese government 🤣
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Not all of them are paid, some are just useful idiots.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

this u?

And [China] has worked tirelessly to create [disunity in Europe], yes. Europeans have looked at the chaos in the US with a sense that it represents some kind of moral failing specific to Americans, but the reality is they themselves have been part of the same decades long social engineering campaign by Russia and China.

The only difference is the goals have been slightly different for each target and the type of trolling and propaganda exploits slightly different social and cultural weaknesses. But ultimately the goal has always been to drive a wedge between the US and Europe, and weaken both.

Because that is some weapons-grade BlueAnon conspiracy theorizing.

retrospectology ,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Found the tankie, lol.

Plume , to memes in For anyone asking: Yes, I am paid by the Chinese government 🤣
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My guy, you like China. We get it. You made four post to this sub about this in the same day.

Ghyste , to memes in Self-Made

Not a meme…

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

when you definitely know what the word meme means

Ghyste ,

Imagine using the pre-internet definition of meme as an excuse to dump every flavor of garbage into one community…

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

aww, little muffin is seething and coping

shiftymccool ,

pre-internet definition of meme

Jesus wept

where_am_i ,

we got enough political BS all over the platform. But sure, I guess people who don’t want to see repeated “capitalism bad” in every community in every post should just leave lemmy.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

where_am_i ,

wow, look at this welcoming community. 4/1 to this guy.

I understand, you democratically represent lemmy. Be happy in your echo chamber.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

you’re not the main character kiddo, get used to it

where_am_i ,

says you, lmao

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not the one running around crying that everybody isn’t catering to my whims here kiddo

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Your account is as old as mine. By now I’d think you’d know better.

Oh right, we had this conversation just last week: sh.itjust.works/comment/11375618

So I shouldn’t expect you to know anything.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Appropriate username is appropriate.

izutsumi-idea !nonpolitical_memes

You know where the block button is.

boatsnhos931 , to memes in China bad

ey mane, you got any mo of that works cited

HootinNHollerin , to memes in China bad

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  • davel ,
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    You’re on .ml, clown.

    alcoholicorn , to programmerhumor in Always be fashionably late

    Telling funny stories to the first person or two, so people join to: “-and it was full of corn! Hahaha really? What about the racoon? Oh uhh nevermind” and have to wonder why everyone got quiet as soon as they joined.

    MrScottyTay ,

    The waiting around for others conversations are always wild and funny. They’re worth the awkward moments waiting alone.

    perishthethought ,

    There’s a reason “awkward conversation before the call starts” is usually filled in on my conference call bingo card.

    (Because I usually start them)

    ma343 , to memes in China Bad

    Tell that to the Uighurs

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Case in point 😂 Every goddamn time 😭

    The Cold War had only a brief pause before the pivot to Asia. The US tried to foment unrest in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last week.

    We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

    Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

    The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

    Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

    Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

    Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

    ma343 ,

    Let me guess, Tiananmen square was a totally justified response to CIA instigated unrest too? How about you link to a single source from any reputable news agency anywhere around the world instead of random shady sites that totally aren’t propaganda? And to be clear, fuck the US government too, but China isn’t exactly a bastion of free expression and journalism either

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Let me guess, Tiananmen square was a totally justified response to CIA instigated unrest too?

    Presumably your understanding of the Tiananmen riots is about as garbage as almost every other Westerner’s.

    .

    How about you link to a single source from any reputable news agency anywhere around the world instead of random shady sites that totally aren’t propaganda?

    Sorry, I don’t have any MBFC-approved sources for you on hand. I think you’d just ignore them or move the goalposts if I posted them anyway. I doubt you have an understanding of how our own propaganda works.

    ma343 ,

    Oh hey look, guessed it in one. And note that I said anywhere in the world, but sure they’re all cia psyops, that’s a very reasonable take. Have fun licking that boot, just because America is authoritarian doesn’t mean you should trust what their opponents say about their own bad behavior, that’s as ignorant as ignoring the crimes of the west

    davel , (edited )
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    And note that I said anywhere in the world

    Yes, I heard you the first time.

    they’re all cia psyops

    Obviously not everything is. This isn’t a a very good straw man.

    America is authoritarian doesn’t mean you should trust what their opponents say about their own bad behavior

    Obviously not, and yet again you’re putting words in my mouth to construct a ridiculous straw man.

    Have fun licking that boot

    Have fun licking imperial core boot, I guess? I don’t know how or why you’ve twisted this into boot-lickery.

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