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chetradley , to memes in Religious Nationalism is brainrot.
PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Camel by camel starts playing in the background

orcrist , to memes in Religious Nationalism is brainrot.

Patriotism is such a terrible thing in general.

Louisoix ,

Trying to explain the exact same thing to my parents. Challenge: impossible.

orcrist ,

Same here. We gotta aim for the younger generations.

UnrepententProcrastinator ,

It can be alright if you think your nation’s value are worth preserving. E.g. it is Patriotic to defend your country against a fascit invader that wants to remove your nation’s self-determination.

orcrist ,

I don’t think you need to be patriotic to want to defend your country from fascist invaders. That’s a purely practical consideration if nothing else.

UnrepententProcrastinator ,

You can welcome an invasion as a liberation force if no patriotism is involved. Like the eastern front did in WW2 until they realized Nazis were more about creating Lebensraum.

FlickOfTheBean , to memes in Religious Nationalism is brainrot.

You tear yourself apart!

Ephera , to programmerhumor in Your Average IT Department Budget

My favorite part is when I have to take mandatory trainings on security and integrate automated scanners for vulnerable libraries, but none of our projects have funding to actually implement the basics, like encryption+authentication.

Tangentism ,

We have the mandatory security training at my company and they said it was going to be revised after a few of us showed how the advice it gave was insecure and incorrect!

mormegil ,
@mormegil@programming.dev avatar

In a bank we work for, there is a mandatory security training for employees, mandated by the parent supranational. The bank tried to correct the mistakes in the training or at least make the training optional, as the bank provides its own, more correct program. Rejected by the mother company, mandatory training is mandatory, even if it is wrong.

CucumberFetish , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.

What are the specs?

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar
kokopelli ,

It comes with Arch!

jonne ,

It’s got gills.

exanime ,

But is it packed to the gills?

Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

they put the ice all the way up there

Maerman OP ,

I really want to reply to this post sincerely, but that other reply just takes the cake.

humbletightband , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.

As a proud owner of the Intel option, I sincerely glad that you have.

Also it hurts and I hate you

Maerman OP ,

Why, is the Intel option sub-par? I just got the AMD version because my older laptop has NVIDIA hybrid graphics, which is a serious pain in the ass on Linux. I also wanted to play with Wayland. But why do you dislike the Intel version?

humbletightband ,

Mainly because of poor performance, especially in emulators

Maerman OP ,

Ah, that’s unfortunate. I haven’t really had a chance to push this machine very much, so I can’t say from experience whether it’s really better.

nehal3m , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.

Hey congrats dude. Hope it will improve your life and that you’ll have fun with it.

Maerman OP ,

Thanks. I’m already having so much fun. My older laptop has NVIDIA hybrid graphics, so I was actually a bit flabbergasted at how little I had to do to get Linux working properly on this thing.

M500 , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.

That’s awesome! I have a second gen l14 and it’s such a great machine. I’m sure the t16 is a whole other level.

Maerman OP ,

Nice, I’m happy that you enjoy your machine. I hope it continues to bring you joy for years to come.

Akasazh , to lemmyshitpost in First post
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

@zuck

GTFO dweeb

Grayox OP , to memes in And I'll vote for him again
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

The way to fight the 2 party system, starts at the grass roots and grows upwards, you can Not fight it from the top down.

metallic_z3r0 , (edited )

The only other fast way to fight it is with violence, but without clear national unity and already decent leadership it usually results in some form of autocracy, making the situation worse.

Edit: violent revolution* usually doesn’t work, but violence itself can be rather effective

JayDee , (edited )

I think you’ve falsely equated violence with revolution.

There are currently arsonists in Atlanta and elsewhere in the US fighting the creation of cop city and projects like it via property damage. That is violence with no danger of creating an autocracy. I’d argue the Black Panthers, the Suffragettes and the IRA all used violence which posed no danger of autocracy.

I do agree that strong group unity, some form of multistate participation, and good leadership and structure, are all very important for it to yield positive results.

Edit: put NRA instead of IRA, fuck me. Fixed now.

metallic_z3r0 ,

Very good point, my bad.

TokenBoomer ,

So say we all.

Liz ,

Get yourself some Approval Voting and Proportional Representation at the state and local level! Volunteer with Election Science to make it happen!

Electric_Druid , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.

Congration

zod000 , to programmerhumor in Your Average IT Department Budget

I feel personally attacked by this meme.

BackOnMyBS , to memes in I've been dying to tell someone.
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

neato burrito!

w2tpmf , to memes in And I'll vote for him again

When I say this same thing to the die hard blue team voters I get accused of being a Trumper and a fascist.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Tell them you can criticize and vote at the same time, thats what is supposed to make us different from the Maga chuds.

CableMonster ,

The left side will not let you defend trump or criticize them, its really bad and I dont think its going to end well.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Why in the world would you want to defend 45?! Lol, lmao even.

CableMonster ,

I will defend anyone that the government is attacking unfairly, or that the media is lying about.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Do enlighten us on how the government is attacking him unfairly, and the lies the media has told about him.

Sarcasmo220 ,

I definitely do not like Trump, and this comment is by no means me defending him. He has committed crimes and should be prosecuted. However, certain actions by Dems does suggest he was targeted.

One example is his tax returns. It is a tradition for presidents to voluntarily release them. He chose not to. Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

I also think that prosecutors in New York would have ignored his fraudulent business practices, which they likely ignored for several years prior, if he hadn’t become president and was seeking re-election.

Again, I am not defending him. Lock him up for his crimes. But I also don’t think the democrats motivation is solely coming from the idea of “justice for all.”

Jaysyn ,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

One example is his tax returns. It is a tradition for presidents to voluntarily release them. He chose not to. Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

Oh you poor delusional soul.

Those tax documents, while evidence of criminal acts, were just a small fraction of the literal 900 bankers boxes of fraud evidence against Trump.

People that understand how our system of government works, understand that Congress has the power of investigation.

Why don't you understand that?

capital_sniff ,

I am pretty sure the New York fraud case that is sending Trump spiraling is the direct result of testimony that his fixer Cohen gave to Congress. You can probably find the relevant testimony on the youtubes. If memory serves AOC was doing some of the important questioning.

Jaysyn ,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

That is 100% correct.

Also, nearly every witness against Trump in his criminal trials have been members of the GOP longer than Trump has.

Viking_Hippie ,

have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

Nope. Turns out that there IS a real reason why public financial disclosure via tax returns has become standards practice for presidential candidates: it’s to show the public that there’s no conflicts of interest to worry about.

That Trump refused to release his was one red flag amongst many indicating that he had foreign business interests that he refused to divest from. Such conflicts of interest are a national security threat in the case of ANY high ranking government official, let alone the president himself.

prosecutors in New York would have ignored his fraudulent business practices, which they likely ignored for several years prior, if he hadn’t become president and was seeking re-election.

So you’re saying that it’s unfair that he no longer gets a free pass to commit tons of crimes now that he’s more publicly visible? Cry me a river!

Again, I am not defending him

Yeah, you are. You may not think that you are, but you definitely are.

octopus_ink ,

The best you can come up with is that they asked him for his tax returns to be mean?

Gestures around

Out of ALL THIS, that (and they should have continued ignoring his fraud) is your example of how the government is attacking him unfairly? A speck of sand compared to a dumptruck full of bullshit?

Perfide ,

Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

Yes, they did, and he kept refusing to do so, as was his right even if it made him look sus as fuck, especially since his excuse was the lie about being under audit. Only once he was under investigation for fucking fraud were his tax returns actually released, as evidence in the investigations.

Lucidlethargy ,

This has to be propaganda, right?

This is like saying Capone was treated unfairly because they went after him with everything they had for tax evasion.

Sarcasmo220 ,

Rather than comment on each individual response I figure comment on my own.

I agree with all the points made here.

When they couldn’t get Capone for the murders and rackateering they got him for tax evasion because he deserved it. Trump absolutely deserves all these charges and should go to prison.

I do not believe Trump should get a free pass for his crimes. No one should. I was only suggesting that his crimes may have been ignored until there was a political motivation to look. It shouldn’t have to be that way, but that may have played a role on why they are just now investigating. If they had looked into it earlier it may have disqualified him from running in the first place; which to be clear, is a good thing.

Notice how I didn’t say the Georgia elections case was unfair. He was recorded trying to commit voter fraud and should be charged. There’s plenty in Jan 6th commission report to charge too and I am frustrated that hasn’t happened either.

CableMonster ,

Lets focus on the media, do you really think the news media tells the truth about trump always, or runs misleading or stories with bad sources on purpose?

Tar_alcaran ,

Whats unfair about the lawsuits against Trump? Afaik, the most unfair bit is that (federalist society weirdo) judge Canon is working her ass off to stall till after the elections.

CableMonster ,

All of them are things he didnt do wrong, or are something that the other guys in power do, and its not a problem. Literally all of them.

Tar_alcaran ,

Oh, so, is the defamation case something he didnt do (despite the rock solid evidence), or something he should get away with because other people do it too (the ultimate 6-year-old excuse)?

And does everyone claim their property is worth 500%-800% more for decades on their loan applications?

Have other people gotten away with hiding top secret files in their bathrooms, and lying about having them? Or did that not happen, despite the people moving them being on film?

I don’t even care about the case about campaign finances.

CableMonster ,

You mentioned four different things, let me address the one I know the most about and is the most obvious. You can claim that your house or property is worth as much as you want, how the process works is that you ask for what you want and claim whatever you want, and then the bank does their underwriting and comes to their own determination of value and how much they want to lend. He did nothing wrong t hat I am aware of.

Tar_alcaran ,

You can claim that your house or property is worth as much as you want

No, you can’t. If you knowingly and grossly lie on paperwork that’s called fraud. Why the hell would that be legal?

The fact that most people try to sneak 10% is entirely different from ballooning things by 600% and intentionally lying about the reasons.

CableMonster ,

So if you list your house for more than its worth on zillow is that fraud? Who is harmed by claiming you house is worht 600% more (which he didnt actually do but is perfectly fine)?

Tar_alcaran ,

Obviously, a loan provider is harmed. Interest rates are calculated based on the radio of debt to assets. If you put a 10k mortgage on a 500k asset, you’re paying far less interest than if you take a 450k mortgage on the same.

That’s such a basic question, anyone who is into real estate shouldn’t have to ask this.

CableMonster ,

Are you aware that mortgage companies do their own due diligence to determine the value of the property? Do you know what the underwriting process is?

Tar_alcaran , (edited )

Just so we’re clear, your excuse for fraud is “but the other party has to check it too?”

Buddy, where do you think half the evidence is from?

You can read the decision for yourself. I don’t need to defend the judge. scribd.com/…/452564-2022-People-of-the-State-of-v…

For the explanation or damages, check the expert witnesses especially.

CableMonster ,

So then its fraud to claim or believe that your property is worth more than it is?

I am just explaining how the process works. Its like if I am selling a car and claim its worth $20k, its up to the buyer to agree or disagree, its not fraud for me to claim its worth $20k and the kbb value is $10k.

Tar_alcaran ,

Look, you obviously haven’t even briefly looked into the case if you’re saying “it’s just someones opinion”, or that might be what fox news is saying.

I buy a Ferrari that can go 400mph and is worth 10 million because of it. But then I have a limiter installed that caps it speed at 90mph. Then I go to an accountant and say “hey, could you value the Ferrari I bought?”, and they say “based on the info you gave us, we say it’s worth 10,120,000”.

Then I go to the bank and say “hey bank, could you loan me a million bucks, and if I don’t pay you back, you can have this car that independent accounts say is worth 10,120,00”. The bank agree, charging you all of 0.5% interest, because you agreed to give them a car worth 10 times the loan.

But because of the limiter you had installed, the actual value is more like 430,000, because it can’t do what you claimed. So you intentionally lied to the accountant, and took that false info to a bank with the express purpose of benefiting financially of off those lies.

And you then repeat this by asking for a valuation of a 30,000 square foot apartment, which is actually only 11,000 square foot, and going to a different bank with another fake valuation.

And you just keep doing it, over and over.

CableMonster ,

So the one things you claim he lied about was the size of the apartment, which is misleading because of how you calculate square footage. The value is in the property not the building. But again, the bank verifies what you are saying, they will literally send someone there to look at everything, its part of the underwriting. Can you show me where they bank said they were defrauded?

Tar_alcaran ,

So the one things you claim he lied about was the size of the apartment, which is misleading because of how you calculate square footage.

From the documents you didn’t read:

in opposition, defendants absurdly suggest that the calculation of square footage is a subjective process that could lead to differing results or opinions based on the method employed to conduct the calculation . NYSCEF Doc . No. 1293 at 20. Well yes , perhaps , if the area is rounded or oddly shaped, itis possible measurements of square footage could come to slightly differing results due to user error . Good-faith measurements could vary by as much as 10-20% , not 200%

Seriously, if you didn’t look at the documents, I’m not going to copy paste it piecemeal. The court wrote it all down in very clear language.

CableMonster ,

Sigh, I am talking about the inclusion of “finished” vs “unfinished” space. But that doesnt even matter the important part of my comment is that that value is in the land, and they will verify all of the information they care about. Can you show me where they bank said they were defrauded?

Tar_alcaran ,

No. Read the decision yourself, the motivation is in the first 5 pages.

CableMonster ,

I am aware that a judge wrote a thing, who I know is poltically motivated. The supreme court voted 9-0 against what the court did in colorado, so just because a thing was done, doesnt mean its just.

Who was defrauded and how?

Tar_alcaran ,

The answer as to why the state is charging him is on page 3. The fact that you don’t care enough to look it up says that this discussion is entirely pointless. There are witness statements from the lenders spelling out they wouldn’t have granted the terms based on accurate valuations further on in document.

If you can’t even be arsed to open the document and read 1.5 pages, then I don’t see why I should bother.

CableMonster ,

Literally the only questionable thing I have heard you or anyone say is that he overinflated the size of the residence. Do you understand what underwriting is?

Tar_alcaran ,

Do you understand what underwriting is?

Yes, I do. Why do you keep asking this question? What is your point? And, more importantly, why aren’t you looking up the question yourself? Is it because you don’t want to see it has already been adressed?

Page 1, because I’m way too nice, and for the benefit of anyone who reads this later and is just as lazy as you:

Donald Trump and entities he controls own many valuable properties, including office buildings,hotels, and golf courses. Acquiring and developing such properties required huge amounts ofcash. Accordingly, the entities borrowed from banks and other lenders. The lenders required personal guarantees from Donald Trump, which were based on statements of financial conditioncompiled by accountants that Donald Trump engaged. The accountants created these “compilations” based on data submitted by the Trump entities. In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting infraudulent financial statements. When confronted at trial with the statements, defendants’ fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality, and defendants failed to accept responsibility or to impose internal controls to prevent future recurrences. As detailed herein, this Court now finds defendants liable, continues the appointment of an Independent Monitor, orders the installation of an Independent Director of Compliance, and limits defendants’ right to conduct business in New York for a few years

And why is that a problem? the Law (page 2):

Whenever any person shall engage in repeated fraudulent or illegalacts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in thecarrying on, conducting or transaction of business, the attorney general may apply… for an order enjoining the continuance of such business activity or of any fraudulent or illegal acts, directing restitution and damages and, in an appropriate case, cancelling any certificate filed under and by virtue of the provisions of section fourhundred forty of the former penal law or section one hundred thirtyof the general business law, and the court may award the reliefapplied for or so much thereof as it may deem proper. The word“fraud” or “fraudulent” as used herein shall include any device,scheme or artifice to defraud and any deception, misrepresentation, concealment, suppression, false pretense, false promise or unconscionable contractual provisions. The term “persistent fraud”or “illegality” as used herein shall include continuance or carryingon of any fraudulent or illegal act or conduct. The term “repeated”as used herein shall include repetition of any separate and distinct fraudulent or illegal act, or conduct which affects more than one person. Notwithstanding any law to the contrary, all monies recovered or obtained under this subdivision by a state agency or state official or employee acting in their official capacity shall besubject to subdivision eleven of section four of the state finance law.

And the judge adds (page 4):

Timely and total repayment of loans does not extinguish the harm that false statements inflict onthe marketplace. Indeed, the common excuse that “everybody does it” isall the more reason tostrive for honesty and transparency and to be vigilant in enforcing the rules. Here, despite thefalse financial statements, it is undisputed that defendants have made all required payments ontime; the next group of lenders to receive bogus statements might not be so lucky. New York means business in combating business fraud.

And in the read, the judge specifically this bullshit series of “Where is the victim” that you’re parroting, in addition to some other bullshit that you’ll mostly find on Truth social, Fox news and similar nonsense-spewing media (and right here in this thread too)

Indeed, materiality under this statute is judged not by reference to reliance by or materialityto a particular victim, but rather on whether the financial statement “properly reflected the financial condition” of the person to which the statement pertains.People v Essner, 124 Misc 2d830, 835 (Sup Ct, NY County 1984) (“there need be no ‘victim,’ ergo, reliance is neither an element of the crime nor a valid yardstick with which to test the materiality of a false statement”).

Materiality has been one of the great red herrings of this case all along. Faced with clear evidence of a misstatement, a person can always shout that “it’s immaterial.” Absolute perfection, including with numbers, exists only in heaven. If fraud is insignificant, then, like most things in life, it just does not matter. As an ancient maxim has it , de minimis non curat lex, the law is not concerned with trifles. Neither is this Court.

But that is not what we have here. Whether viewed in relative (percentage) or absolute(numerical) terms, objectively (the governing standard) or subjectively (how the lenders viewed them), defendants’ misstatements were material. United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously, or infamously, declared that he could not define pornography, but that heknew it when he saw it. Jacobellis v State of Ohio, 378 US 184, 197 (1964). The frauds foundhere leap off the page and shock the conscience.

Wisely, courts have refused to define “material” in a “one size fits all” fashion. At trial, thisCourt attempted to get the experts to go where Courts have dared not tread. Not surprisingly, afirm definition could not be found. But in the present context, this Court confidently declaresthat any number that is at least 10% off could be deemed “material,” and any number that is atleast 50% off would likely be deemed material. These numbers are probably conservative giventhat here, such deviations from truth represent hundreds of millions of dollars, and in the case ofMar-a-Lago, possibly a billion dollars or more.

Yet another great red herring in this case has been that different appraisers can legitimately andin good faith appraise the same property at different amounts. True enough, as appraising is anart as well as a science. However, the science part cannot be fraudulent. When two appraisalsrely on starkly different assumptions, that is not evidence of a difference of opinion, that is evidence of deceit.

Would you like to ask more questions where the answer is almost literally written out in the decission, instead of looking them up yourself?

CableMonster ,

Like I told you, I dont care about what a corrupt judge has to say, I care about the actual facts and what happens in real estate transactions. The worst thing I have heard (and I have heard it multiple times) is that they said the square footage was different than reality, is this the worst thing he did? If not be very specific on somethings worse. If it is the worst thing, then it doesnt change the value much, and would be caught in underwriting. And again, who was the actual party that was harmed?

Tar_alcaran ,

I dont care about what a corrupt judge has to say, I care about the actual facts

Those are in the decision.

The worst thing I have heard (and I have heard it multiple times) is that they said the square footage was different than reality, is this the worst thing he did?

No, it’s a single example, I’ve quoted other points above.

If not be very specific on somethings worse.

Already did, in the past above, and the rest is in the decision, very clearly spelled out.

And again, who was the actual party that was harmed?

That’s also in the quoted bit, bold for your convenience and you still didn’t read it.

I’m starting to seriously if you’re just ignoring everything or if you have serious reading comprehension problem. Or maybe it’s hard denial of everything you don’t like? All your questions have already been addressed.

CableMonster ,

Please look into “Underwriting” and then get back to me.

Tar_alcaran ,

Done (as said before). What’s your point by repeating this?

CableMonster ,

I repeat it because underwriting is the thing that makes everythng that is claimed to be irrelevant. If you need another opinion, just listen to Kevin Oleary talk about this, or any number of other people that do real estate.

Tar_alcaran ,

listen to Kevin Oleary talk about this

The guy who absolutely rips into everyone who dares overvalue their invention by 2 cents on Shark Tank?

CableMonster ,

I dont watch the show, but I am going to assume he does that. As a person that finds trump annoying, and am not going to vote for him, and has been involved in dozens of real estate purchases and sales, this whole case is such a load of crap that its hard to describe what a miscarriage of justice this is. I would recommend you actually listen to someone like Kevin Oleary talk about this because he will give a lot longer more detailed explanation becuase its not in text form.

Bipta ,

lol are you living in 2016? Only an absolute rube would believe this is what's happening to Trump in 2024.

TacoButtPlug ,
@TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works avatar

You are fucking stupid. Jfc.

Lucidlethargy ,

That’s literally what he’s telling you, and his other followers, to say.

There is zero truth in it. If you don’t get that this guy lies to everyone, then I have a bridge I want to sell you.

CableMonster ,

I literally never listen to trump, I hear the stories and then find out the truth. If you dove deep on any of the things I am talking about, the facts back up what I am saying (or I wouldnt be saying it).

Munchback , to programmerhumor in Your Average IT Department Budget

Jurassic Park is a satirical comedy about capitalism. Hammond spares every expense. The first scene is a man being killed on the job. He built the park in a country with cheap labour and low safety standards. He essentially had 3 people running the park. They bred raptors just because they could and he put his own grandkids (a metaphor for the future) in danger due to his own hubris and ego. They are literally man made monsters in an amusement park created by exploiting nature using untested technology. The metaphor for the dangers of greed could not be more on the nose, and I’m baffled it isn’t more commonly understood.

Tangentism ,

The main programmer got the job because of nepotism as well!

MBM ,

How dare you, Hammond is a kind old man with a dream! (and in the book he dies a pathetic death after everything’s already mostly resolved)

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