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Diplomjodler , to linux in Tried Arch for the first time | My experience and impressions

Where would one find custom Pipewire profiles for specific speakers and would those work for an unwashed Mint peasant like me? I have external speakers for my PC but the sound has room for improvement. I tried tweaking with Easyeffects but that is not really that easy if you have no idea about sound engineering.

dditty ,

Also wondering this. My razer laptop’s speakers have noticeably worse sound quality on pop_OS than on Windows

hayk OP ,

in my case it was kinda easy, since they were actually linked in the Arch wiki directly!!! but, yes, i guess in general it might be an issue. maybe look for keywords such as “easyeffects profile <YOUR SPEAKERS>” or something along these lines. you can also play around a little with the app to find the settings that work for you.

vort3 , to linux in Tried Arch for the first time | My experience and impressions
@vort3@lemmy.ml avatar

Same for me. Arch is great and I’m happy with it, but I need MS Office (I know about Libre Office, but there are files that are made in MS Office and I have to work with them) and at least CorelDraw (at least until SVG spec allows tab characters in text objects) to fully work in Linux. Until then, I have to use Windows :-(

Quik ,

Have you tried OnlyOffice? Their main selling point is compatibility with all of the Microsoft Office formats, so maybe that would suit your use case.

vort3 ,
@vort3@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not sure how it can be even remotely compatible without the fields support? It’s not even possible to have something as basic as current chapter name (heading) in page header/footer. This is essential. Also, LibreOffice has this.

Aatube ,

Isn't LibreOffice able to open and export to MS files?

vort3 ,
@vort3@lemmy.ml avatar

It is. But it’s not 100% identical.

Holzkohlen , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

Just create more ram out of thin air with zram. I’ve got 60gb now. 30 something actual ram (some of my 32gb gets allocated for the APU) and the same amount as zram. I can run 2 chrome instances now!

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, with lz4 your zram will be fast too so you can do some gaming with it

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But why would you want to even run one Chrome instance?

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

One is dedicated to the power of our lord and savior jesus christ.

The other is for Kim Possible foot porn.

Karyoplasma ,

Ngl I was pretty upset when Kim got together with Ron when I was a teen lol

Wes_Dev ,

Show off. I have 12 GB of DDR3, and a swap partition on spinning rust.

(save me)

Karyoplasma ,

Isn’t that just a fancy page file?

BaalInvoker , to linux in Tried Arch for the first time | My experience and impressions

I’ve been using some sort of unix CLI since the time I learned to pee standing (last year?)

Well, if you’re a woman that’s a huge thing, pee standing!

If you’re a man, pee sitting (at home/friends home), please… It makes cleaning very, very simpler and the bathroom doesn’t smell like public restroom

k_rol ,

Out of context but good advice.

hayk OP ,

i experimentally found that peeing standing (handstanding to be precise) is the ultimate way, so i learned how to do that (like i said, was last year)

neatchee , to linux in Tried Arch for the first time | My experience and impressions

As a casual Linux user this confirms exactly what I always thought about Arch: there are significant benefits that I would appreciate but I cannot afford the time and energy investment.

If I didn’t have a job, I would absolutely make it happen. But in the limited time available to me I just have too many other things I’d rather be doing

redcalcium ,

Then just use endeavour os. It’s basically Arch but with a preset configuration already decided for you.

Shareni ,

Installing Arch is the least of its issues, and endeavour doesn’t help you with anything else.

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

Disagree, actually. The Endeavour defaults are really good and they have a really helpful, newbie-friendly forum.

Plus I have personally found the stereotype of Arch being difficult to maintain to not be true at all. I just installed the linux-lts kernel package and setup btrfs-assistant for system restore and it’s been quite low-maintenance. I had way more issues with Fedora, come to think of it.

Shareni ,

Yeah, the defaults are pretty good, that’s why I used it the longest out of arch and derivatives.

Btrfs does help out a lot, but the last time I installed derivatives, only garuda defaulted to it. Endeavour without it wasn’t fun at all.

That really depends on a lot of factors. I’ve used Arch on multiple devices and had it freeze, crash, fail to boot, and had a bunch of other minor issues. It’s usually something that I could fix in a few minutes, except for like that bad GRUB release.

One day I remembered that I previously used mint for 2 years and it never froze, crashed, or had any sort of issue. So now I’m on MX and just use nix to install bleeding edge packages I need. Maybe I don’t have the newest DE, but I know it won’t break randomly, just possibly once every ~2 years after a major release upgrade.

Yeah, Fedora was a massive pain for me as well. But I installed it as a friend’s first distro, and it’s been working just fine. Although I think it might’ve been even better to use RHEL/MX instead.

penquin ,

I use endeavouros. It’s great after you set it up. It doesn’t really give much help. It’s still barebones almost like arch. I even had to install bluez on KDE to get my Bluetooth working. Best thing about it is the installer. In case things go south, you can easily reinstall. And now that arch the install script, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Petter1 ,

Just install arch using archinstall (cli app to install arch automatically) and after that use yay instead of pacman

Don’t know how that needs more time than any other OS to be honest.

neatchee ,

If it’s that simple to solve every time-sink mentioned in the OP, why isn’t that available by default? Or why isn’t there a distro flavor that is just that?

Petter1 , (edited )

I don’t know how much EOS is helping with the drivers that don’t come with kernel or need proprietary firmware files, but you can easily get them from AUR. Most difficult part is installing yay from AUR because you don’t have yay yet to install yay vom AUR using yay, lol.

With my answer prior I wanted to tell, that you do not have to spend a lot of time installing arch if you use archinstall (it is ready to use in the archISO)

neatchee ,

Gotcha. That makes sense

Anticorp , (edited )

If it’s that simple to solve every time-sink mentioned in the OP, why isn’t that available by default?

Because a lot of people like setting everything up themselves and having full control over everything they install.

Or why isn’t there a distro flavor that is just that?

There is, Manjaro or EOS.

neatchee ,

Then why wouldn’t I just install manjaro?

Anticorp ,

See the first point.

neatchee ,

So then I’m still exactly correct about my assessment of Arch? That is too much of a time investment for me and the closest I will want to get is manjaro?

Anticorp , (edited )

I love Arch, but I’m an old school nerd who likes fiddling with my computer. If you’re the type of person who just wants your shit to work with minimal fuss, then you’re probably right that Arch isn’t the right distro for you. Someone else said that Manjaro has actually migrated pretty far from Arch over the years, so that may not be right for you either now. If you want to try Arch, but don’t want to spend time setting it up then it sounds like EOS is probably a good place to start, but I’m not familiar with EOS at all. That will probably still require some additional configuration for anything special you have going on like custom sound cards, or old printers. I’ve been using Pop_OS on my gaming desktop for a few years now and it’s a really hands-off OS that brings a lot of the cool parts of Linux without requiring much fuss or customization. It is a port of Ubuntu though, so if you want an Arch experience then EOS is the way, or Manjaro for a neutered Arch experience but a little less hands-on. I don’t actually have any first-hand experience with Manjaro or EOS though, I’ve only read about them. If you have a few hours to try them out then you might end up finding a new OS that improves your digital life. Some other people might be able to give you more information, or you can just go for it! Hopefully that helps a little. Sorry I don’t have all the answers.

Edit EOS is short for EndeavourOS , so you don’t get lost looking at other stuff with the same acronym

octopus_ink , (edited )

I can’t tell if you really want to have an argument about Arch or are sincerely curious.

Arch expects you to be pretty involved in deciding what runs on your system and maintaining it. That may or may not be for you. After learning how to use it, I found it really wasn’t particularly bad. Having said that, my years spent with Arch were years ago - I’ve been on derivatives since because I don’t really want/need the level of control provided by installing Arch.

If you don’t want such a steep learning curve and are OK with some choices being made for you, maybe you want Manjaro, but given your comments so far, I’m not sure whether any Arch derivative is a good choice for you.

Maybe it’s just not how you like to do things. Even Manjaro says “hey check our weekly update thread” before you update, to see if you might need to intervene at update time, though IME you rarely do. (Ran Manjaro without a reinstall for years on one laptop.)

Currently I use EOS, and as the other post has said it kinda splits the difference. I had to do a little more setup for myself after an EOS install than a Manjaro install, and maintaining it is closer to maintaining vanilla arch, but I don’t consider it a timesink whatsoever. It will be until you know what you are doing.

I guess I take a little umbridge to your use of “timesink” as some kind of pejorative. Everything is a timesink until you know what you are doing with it, and less so when you do.

If you are curious, try them. If you are going to get upset and say they are trash the first time you need some sort of manual intervention, then probably it’s better for you to try/stay on some other distro, but it doesn’t happen often, and it’s usually easy (if you aren’t afraid of a wiki and the terminal) when it does.

If you want an argument, I’m not your guy, I’m just trying to answer the questions you seemed to be posing.

neatchee ,

I’m genuinely not looking for an argument. My original comment was “yup, this isn’t for me, because it’s too much time/effort”. It only became an argument of sorts when person after person came in to try to tell me why I was wrong for feeling that way?

Like, I get it. There are different variants and options and arch is mostly for people who want to tinker.

But my original comment was literally just “well, this post confirms what I suspected: arch probably isn’t for me because I don’t have the time”. I didn’t intend to be pejorative with the term ‘timesink’. Just too much for me. But I’ll admit I probably got a bit defensive after being told I was wrong for xyz reason by so many people on a matter of personal priorities

octopus_ink ,

Fair enough, I see your point! :)

hayk OP ,

totally understand it. it took me about a full day to setup everything the way i liked (i’m also quite picky when it comes to usability), but honestly the next time i do it, i can probably do it in a couple of hours, since i now know all the ins and outs.

neatchee ,

I’d be interested to hear from someone like you on their “one month later” experience re: upkeep and compatibility

hayk OP ,

This has been some time ago. Because of the apps I mentioned I had to transit after a week of usage. But in that week, it was kinda nice. I don’t think from the upkeep standpoint it’s too different from other distros. Like I said, the main hard-to-overcome issues come from hardware support, often due to vendors unwilling to release drivers for Linux. But most of the major vendors (intel, amd, nvidia, etc.) have decent linux support nowadays, even not considering the myriad of open-source drivers.

I was also genuinely surprised with how well DEs nowadays support touchpads, and how customizable the gestures can be. That being said, ofc like I said, some of the apps do not release Wayland support (mainly the electron-based ones).

In short, lots of things are a bit more complicated than on Mac or Windows, but a lot of other things are much more straightforward and customizable.

Anticorp ,

Arch is for people who want to fiddle around with computers during their free time.

Source: was one of those people for a long time and still am occasionally. I use Arch on an old laptop and it’s pretty awesome. But I use Pop on my gaming desktop because it’s stupid simple.

mub ,

That’s what EndeavourOS is for. Essentially it is just Arch with a fancy install, plus some minor tweaks and packages you’d probably install in Arch anyway.

The AUR and the wiki is what makes iArch so good. All other Linux distros rely on good forums and public guides, which means you need to be on Ubuntu or Debian for there to be enough content out there to help you if you get stuck. But with Arch most stuff is answered by the wiki or with a package from the AUR. Also the community is generally very helpful and direct in forums and Reddit posts making finding solutions much easier, in my experience, than other distros.

Anyway, I love Arch.

nightwatch_admin , to linux in Tried Arch for the first time | My experience and impressions

Nice write up! Though… the sound coning seemingly from someone’s … someone’s what exactly?

Diplomjodler ,

You don’t want to know.

hayk OP ,

arse!

nightwatch_admin ,

Ah yes, I expected as mich but was hoping for something more… intricate?

hayk OP ,

from someone’s … posterior? … latter end? … tuchus? arse is a bit more descriptive, eh?

nightwatch_admin ,

Tuchus? It is 5AM here and I already learned a new word, thank you kind internet stranger!

Oha , to memes in When people tell you who they are, listen.

am I too European to understand this meme?

ZombieMantis ,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

Evidently, yes.

InputZero ,

Wes_Dev said

“For those who don’t know, In the US, the two political parties basically switched sides at one point. I only skimmed, but here’s an article about it:

livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parti…

But I’d rather look at what modern people are doing and saying, than muse about what older generations would have wanted or done.”

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Lucky

therealjcdenton , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

Both have anime profile pictures so both are losers

0x0 , to linux in Btw

Incidentally:

  • which models are the best new old?
  • what are the best places to get them?

…asking for a friend.

Loucypher OP ,

Old MacBook Airs make great Linux machines. EBay is a good place to look for them

Quackdoc , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

I will never not be upset at people who don’t realize how ram works

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say it’s more the unwillingness to switch from shitty Chrome as if it was a bad thing to do.

Quackdoc ,
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

Chromium browsers have a lot of issues, and so does firefox, but ram usage is not one of chromes weaknesses, Chromium regularly preforms better for me then firefox does under low ram scenarios, Both in terms of chrome being responsive, and in terms of chrome not crippling everything else around it.

Zoidberg ,

This is correct. Ive helped a bunch of people (in Linux) complaining that chrome was eating all their ram when in fact it wasn’t. Memory management is hard and it’s easy to look at the wrong indicators.

It does love its ram but not as much as people think.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

Orion > Firefox.

Cris_Color ,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve not heard of orion before, what do you like better about it? Is it WebKit based?

SkyeHarith ,

Hi, not the Original Commenter but an occasional user of Orion.

It is webkit based but has full compatibility for all Firefox and Chrome extensions. Plus in my experience it’s really fast at loading stuff - noticeably so.

It’s being developed by the people behind the Kagi search engine which is also really good

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It is webkit based

So not better than Firefox and OP is just silly.

Cris_Color ,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Why would being WebKit based make it bad? Because it supports the web engine duopoly?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

On an iPhone in specific it means there’s no real difference between them beyond mostly the cosmetic. It’s not just that it’s WebKit, it’s that it’s WebKit that’s also behind Apple’s walled garden.

Firefox that doesn’t render with gecko isn’t really Firefox, is it? I mean I get that Mozilla endorses the app, but it’s not the same Firefox as it would be almost anywhere else.

SkyeHarith ,

As I mentioned above, it’s quite snappier than safari and even Firefox. It’s clear that they’ve worked on performance.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not my point. My point is that all iOS browsers are essentially the same browser because they’re forced to be.

SkyeHarith ,

I agree. The recent EU ruling has atleast fixed that problem for EU citizens while the rest of the world catches up.

We were however discussing browsers in the context of desktops in the original thread. On MacOS, other engines are allowed.

Your issue is with apple’s draconian policy on ios, not webkit.

Further, two F1 cars using the same engine can perform vastly differently depending on how they’re tuned and how the car is built. While I do concur that it is criminal to not let us strap a jet engine to the f1 car, doesn’t mean that there aren’t differences between the currently legal cars beyond the coat of paint.

umbrella , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

do you have time to hear about our lord and savior Firefox with Ublock Origin?

ArmokGoB ,

Adnauseum

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

isnt that the one that clicks on ALL the ads so they have a harder time profiling you?

the scriptures allow for this one on sundays, but dont tell the orthodox traditionalists.

JunglisticFunkateer ,

Firefox + Ublock Origin + Sidebery + vertical CSS theme + Containers

KpntAutismus ,

+sponsorblock +youtube dislike

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Noscript. Fuck your website and all your fancy functionality.

I want to see static on my screen when I visit.

aidan ,

Don’t tell the react devs about this one

blusterydayve26 , (edited )

God, fuck react in the eye with the pointy shit-covered hunting-sticks of our ancestors. Useless technology that directly breaks the web because there’s never any fallback, so all you get is a blank page. Not even a “please-enable js” message.

aidan ,

Yeah not a fan of the bloat for bloats sake. I like the idea of components, but it should be statically compiled

HKayn ,
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That’s hardly React’s fault. Blame the web devs to jump into making websites after having completed a 2-week React bootcamp and nothing else.

Karyoplasma ,

I don’t need sponsorblock as piped automatically skips sponsor segments :^)

deathbird , to memes in "Cancel Culture"

Why yes, cancelling, shunning, etc is bad.

John_McMurray , to memes in "Cancel Culture"

“Everyone I disagree with are the same people”

mavu , to lemmyshitpost in FF Evangelists

They should, might be in a better mood then…

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