“Cave Johnson here. We are implementing a new policy, effective immediately. The git blame command will now be used to blame individual programmers. The blamed party will temporarily be reassigned to our home appliances division to test our new line of giant washing machines by riding the spin cycle. Don’t worry, it’s perfectly safe, but we are not liable for personal injury or death.”
Lmao idk if “most” even holds up in fiction. Even the “good” cops in fiction tend to perform illegal searches, abuse suspects, break the law in countless ways to get the bad guys. How many times have we seen the “good guys” stymied by their inability to search a home but one turns to the other and sarcastically says “oh I think I heard someone scream for help lol” kicks down the door?
Sometimes they have a conscience but I’d call very few fictional cops “good”
I’m pretty sure they shoot innocents a lot less. But I’m in it for the entertainment, not because they follow the law.
Interestingly, in Elementary they call out your issue of always finding probable cause to enter a home. They end up in court over it. It’s still basically hand waved off with them asking if they are being called liars and if they have proof. But they aren’t even cops, they are consultants, so I’m not sure probable cause even applies. Seems more likely they shouldn’t be able to do shit unless they suspicion of imminent danger.
That’s “okay”, though, because we, the viewers, often know that the suspect is guilty. The cops still come off as good (and smart, with good intuition as well) because we know for certain that they’re doing the “right” thing.
As a society, we don’t want to teach people that it is EVER acceptable for the authorities to break rules/laws. They already have power. Why should they go free after breaking the rules meant to control their reach? At the least, they should get charged and go to trial by jury. Ideally, those juries should then convict in all but the most benign cases.
I remember at least a couple old shows had the good old ‘sheriff’ or whatever break some rule and then had to pay for it. And they did, and good guys accept that despite meaning well, they had done wrong and should have followed the law.
If you ask society at large to accept that breaking the rules is ok THIS time because this time is special and our guy is working for Team Good, then our society starts to allow that in all kinds of stupid real-life situations and you end up with criminal cops, politicians, and all manner of officials. Worse, you might end up with random citizens who think it is ok to break the law just because their leader tells them to.
You nailed it. That’s why I put “okay” in quotes. Those laws exist for a reason, and lionizing cops who break the law only teaches the public to accept that lawbreakers are okay if they’re on Team Good.
Unfortunately, what the government calls “good” and what you and I call “good” are often different things.
This is why I loved the Nero Wolfe tv show so much; they taught valuable lessons (like don’t let a cop in without a warrant and be wary of the FBI) and the cops were much more realistic, even if still more or less good guys.
Fictional cops rarely have any ethics. Quite famously, they ignore people civil rights or liberties when they “know” that person is guilty.
It’s like the male lead of a shitty romance novel acting super creepy, abusive, and rapey, but it’s okay because it’s fiction and they always luck out and the woman is into it.
Which is why most cop shows function as authoritarian propaganda. They show an idealist fairy tale version that nonetheless creates this aspirational image of cops in mainstream culture. It gives cover to the true cop culture. Just like villains in movies are always just a bad apple that is corrupt and once eliminated all is well, when in real world the rules of the system is what breeds corruption. It’s not meant to be, but it acts as authoritarian propaganda.
I love cop shows, they are my guilty pleasure, but one needs to be aware that this is fairy tale.
Which is why most cop shows function as authoritarian propaganda.
Exactly!! I mean why else do you think Law & Order:SVU has been on the air for like fucking 30 seasons? Its not because of Ice-T’s incredible acting ability, thats for sure…
Not really. I didn’t really check how much space other snapshots, e.g. btrfs ones, takes, but now I deleted 630 generations (basically snapshots), and it resulted in freeing 11.5 Gb of space, not much IMO)
Unpopular opinion: the show was kinda cool. Not because it’s very realistic, but because it had really good writing. Well except for the computer science, but that much is obvious.
I remember reading somewhere that TV show writers/producers are well aware of this and it’s kind of a sport to get the most ridiculous hacking scene in.
Real hacking would be kind of boring to show, it would just be a guy staring at a screen for hours on end and occasionally typing something.
Well except for the computer science, but that much is obvious.
And that’s never good. But as a computer scientist, I am of the opinion that the real thing is rarely as compelling as The Imitation Game, and even that was about people more than math/science. I’m on board with writers having fun with this stuff because it sort of challenges us to do better out in the world.
For instance, Hackers was not a wildly-off-target take on what computing was like. Rather it’s what we wanted computing to look like.
I don't think the fediverse needs more platform alternatives.
What I really think we need is a way for people to use one fediverse account to log into different interfaces, so people can try out a new app / interface without starting a new account. Many apps can do this, but web apps generally cannot, they're generally tied to an instance.
This requires having an identity that is separate from an instance. This is what nostr does and why I prefer it over mastodon. It also means if your mastodon or lemmy instance closes up shop, you don’t lose your post history, DMs, followers, etc.
If you are talking about something like openauth (where you sign into some random website using your Google account) yes, but your base identity is still tied to Google. So if Google goes down, you lose your google account, and you also lose your account at every other website you logged in to using your google account.
If you are meaning transfer your account from google to say office365, this is possible but there’s a few problems:
If your instance shuts down without doing this, you lose everything
How does your instance choose which instance to transfer it to? What if users don’t like that choice?
Transferring means sharing your login credentials with the new instance.
Your “username” that you share and post online for people to follow you has changed. It’s no longer user@instance but user@newinstance. Some kind of a redirect could be setup I suppose.
Some of these problems are solvable with some changes to the AP code. Some of them are not, at least not without a rewrite of the entire AP structure. Nostr sidesteps all these issues by simply not having your username tied to an instance in the first place.
If you are talking about something like openauth (where you sign into some random website using your Google account) yes, but your base identity is still tied to Google. So if Google goes down, you lose your google account, and you also lose your account at every other website you logged in to using your google account.
Yeah, essentially that. The back-up plan in case your instance goes down is a separate issue, my main plan is just that users shouldn't need a new account for each fediverse application they want to try, considering one account is already able to make any kind of post.
You could have one instance offer more than one platform, though, and you can already use multiple frontends with whatever instance you’re on. Kbin, which you’re on, actually tries to do the Swiss army knife thing IIRC.
You can log into a pixelfed app on android with a mastodon account. Why can't you log into a pixelfed web frontend with a mastodon account? What law of physics makes that impossible?
It doesn’t even sound like they securely bring over the password, which presents a little bit of a phishing threat if people are re-entering their Mastodon password into third party apps like this one.
Edit: Yup, here’s a video/gif. I’d do a federated link but I’m not sure Lemmy supports that yet.
You could totally copy someone else’s Mastodon this way, so that’s fun.
It would still be a separate account, but yes, seamless migration to a new instance could be a thing. There’s scripts for it already. OPs suggestion that you can just move between instances with the same account isn’t how the fediverse works.
If you just want to been on Pixelfed and Mastodon, your instance giving access to both would be the cleanest, best way.
Ah, sorry. Didn’t notice, there’s a few people talking to me.
Yes, it’s not a thing that could work. If you had some centralised way to handle accounts it wouldn’t be federated anymore. It would be another (semi-)walled garden or some kind of blockchain-ish thing, but either way it wouldn’t be ActivityPub-complient.
What does that mean? When you post, who’s server’s outbox do you post from? Inboxes and outboxes by server are a central part of the standard.
You can copy over a user, and make another similar account (like pixelfed), or you can do stuff on that server from another federated server, but at the end of the day you’re not on the same account on different servers.
Unless you changed activitypub, right?
Sure. It’d be a pretty huge departure, though. To a weird degree, like Coca Cola leaving the beverage business becoming a tire company.
If you wanted to make a new protocol, you could go beyond federation and have a fully decentralised system where everything happens on arbitrarily many servers in parallel, but that would be a lot of work and probably data-heavy before any users walk through the door.
What does that mean? When you post, who’s server’s outbox do you post from? Inboxes and outboxes by server are a central part of the standard.
The server my account is stored on.
or any other, I don't give a shit, I'm not sure why this would make a difference, but that seems like the obvious answer to me.
You can copy over a user, and make another similar account (like pixelfed), or you can do stuff on that server from another federated server, but at the end of the day you’re not on the same account on different servers.
I don't know why the current pixelfed app needs to make a separate account.
I gather it finds that solution most convenient, as it means the fewest interactions with the Mastodon server, and there's currently no straightforward for the current pixelfed app to establish a secure long-term session with a non-pixelfed server. I understand that it currently does make a separate account.
I don't understand why it is inconceivable for the activitypub protocol to support such communication. eMail has multiple standards that let me log into Thunderbird from non-Thunderbird email servers.
Sure. It’d be a pretty huge departure, though. To a weird degree, like Coca-Cola leaving the beverage business becoming a tire company.
If you wanted to make a new protocol, you could go beyond federation and have a fully decentralised system where everything happens on arbitrarily many servers in parallel, but that would be a lot of work and probably data-heavy before any users walk through the door.
I feel like you're describing something I'm not calling for. I'm not calling for accounts to be mirrored to multiple servers. I'm calling for a system where client applications can access different servers without copying accounts to a more familiar server.
And I feel like I’ve explained in as much depth as I can quickly what the problem is. I’ll pass the ball over into your court now. Propose an architecture that can do this, prove me wrong.
Like, if you have specific questions I’m here, but it would be a waste of both our time to go “no, you can’t; yes you can” back and forth.
I'm not saying "yes, you currently can do this with the activitypub protocol as it is," I'm saying this feature could be added to activitypub, and I've made specific references to protocols like POP and IMAP that handle logging into email servers from various client applications. I'm not going to code it myself, I'm an attorney, but I do know enough about computer science to know that there is no computabilty issue with my proposal, and that you dislike it primarily because you don't currently have an idea for implementing it, which is not my concern at all.
It’s not just computability, networks are involved. If this was all on one machine, you’re right, there’s no reason you couldn’t change it, but there’s delays and information losses and even bad actors involved. To deal with this, ActivityPub assumes users are confined to servers at the very core of it’s concept.
I’m not an attorney, but I know enough about the law - or at least policy - to attempt an analogy. It’s like a legislator trying to add a requirement that all corporations are fiduciaries to their clients. Fiduciaries exist, and work. They couldn’t work like that, though, because a market economy assumes a certain amount of pursuit of self-interest. How the hell would a corporation handle all the conflicts of interest that would arise? What happens when they inevitably misunderstand what the interest of a client is? What about when there’s multiple parties fulfilling different functions in the same project, but who may have competing interests?
You could try and make a non-market system where production is handled by fiduciaries, and you could even call it “capitalism 2.0”, but it wouldn’t really be capitalism anymore - that would be the blockchain thing. I don’t know what the Pixelfed approach would be equivalent to, but it’s basically mimicking the functionality of the feature (fiduciary duties) without actually implementing them. Maybe just really strong consumer protection regulations.
To be clear, market principles are ActivityPub here. If I’m imposing funny ideas about law, no offense, but we’re even. The takeaway is that decentralisation makes things a lot more nuanced than they ever are on a machine you fully control.
It’s entirely technically possible. Apps already use third party identity providers all the time, you just need federated apps to support OAuth both for signing in on the client and as a backend identity provider, and standardize how federated apps return user info that would be common to any federated app (usernames, saved / liked posts, subscribed feeds, stuff common to the ActivityPub spec).
You could use the same credentials to open a new account on another instance, sure, I guess. You still have to create another user on the new platform with their own ActivityPub inbox and so on.
I guess to a non-technical user that might seem like the same thing, but then again so would your home instance allowing you to view other platforms. The second one would be way cleaner and easier on instance maintainers.
On the left, it’s the floating terminal with neofetch. On the right - the notification center (SwayNotificationCenter), which can opened with clicking on the bar.
NixOs icon on the left side of the bar opens nwg-drawer, which is shown on the last screenshot)
I use Hyprland with mouse without any problems. Though, I have MX Master 3s, it has additional button, which’s mapped to Meta in my case. Also, there’s a right click menu, implemented with ags (similar to openbox menu). So, I can open, close, resize and move windows just with my mouse
If you like that character just go watch some Nina Hagen music videos instead.
She was the inspiration for the character, she's the original punk opera prodigy, she's crazy and she was once a strong contender to be the german voice of marge simpson.
Smack Jack, So Bad, Naturträne, Imma Lauter are all tracks I still listen to a lot. Her recent cover of 16 Tons is great too.
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