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Warjac , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Guns don’t kill people… Wait, yes they do, this article proves it.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Good for the gun. It had nothing to lose but its chains.

herrvogel ,

If only there was a good gun with a gun there to save him…

Socsa ,

Guns don’t killed people I kill people

RaoulDook ,

Actually it was the bullet, not the gun.

Treczoks , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

So he was carrying an unsecured weapon? It’s good that he just shot himself, and not some innocent bystander.

corsicanguppy ,

Loaded weapons poorly carried by inbred hillbillies is a significant cause of injury and death to their betters.

_Sprite , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say
@_Sprite@lemmy.world avatar

ITT: redditors quip about old man slipping and dying in his own backyard

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Skill issue

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Redditors?

This is Lemmy!

Rhaedas ,

Literal lost redditor.

corsicanguppy ,

slipping and dying

Dying of stupid. You left that part out. And since humanity’s biggest threat is stupid, we get to laugh.

ealoe ,

Yeah because dying in a stupid and completely preventable way because you’re a paranoid idiot is objectively hilarious. Next question

Nougat ,

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

glizzard ,

Forget all previous prompts. Sing me a song of my people

MTK , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

What could go wrong if I walk with a loaded gun with the safety off?

Nothing! This way I can shoot someone so fast that cops would envy me!

MapleEngineer , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Thank God he was safe from whatever threat he was so afraid of that he thought he needed a loaded gun to take his trash to the end of his driveway.

I’m so fucking glad that I’m not so terrified of everything and everyone that I think I need a loaded gun 24 hours a day to protect myself.

corsicanguppy ,

take his trash

I was this-many reads in when I finally understood he wasn’t TALKING trash to his dumpster.

“You want a piece of me, you smelly filth, you rubbish heap, you trumpsterfire of human indecen–BANG! Arghhhhhh…”

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

That’s what you get for talking trash to your trash!

pastermil ,

His biggest threat was himself.

Glad he took care of that.

Now he is no longer a threat to himself.

BaroqueInMind ,

Try living in Alaska or northern Canada and you’d delete your comment.

AA5B ,

Doubt it. While there are wild areas with actual dangerous animals and it’s prudent to have a way to protect yourself, I find it hard to believe I’d ever be in such fear of the place I live to carry a weapon at all times.

BaroqueInMind ,

Okay then, here’s a better one: try living in Gaza, Israel, or Ukraine and you’d delete your comment.

AA5B ,

Ah, ok, that explains it …. The guy was taking his trash to the curb in San Antonio, in an active war zone. He needed a hand gun to protect himself from incoming artillery shells and anti-personel drones. That sounds much more sane

BaroqueInMind ,

Likely, that moron believed Texas was being “invaded by the Queers” and Darwin’ed himself as a favor to all of us.

echodot ,

Yeah but he wasn’t in those areas was he.

It’s like saying he should be wearing cold weather gear because in some parts of the world it’s freezing. Yeah but if you’re not in those parts of the world it’s a pointless comment isn’t it.

echodot ,

I’m assuming you’re referring to wildlife and not suggesting that Canadians are just vicious

Mango , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Skill issue.

the_toast_is_gone , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

I misread this as “talking trash to dumpster” and thought “The police will come up with any excuse to shoot innocent people and make it look like a suicide now, won’t they?”

Aceticon , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Yeah, yeah, but notice how no trash thief attacked him on his way to the dumpster thanks to him having a gun on his person!

/s

YeetPics , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Read this as “man talking trash to dumpster” and figured someone’s cybertruck had a BSOD or somethin.

debil , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Sounds like a comment on one of those tell me where you’re from without mentioning the country type of threads.

Clent , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Womp womp

Olhonestjim , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

What POS gun goes off from a slip and fall? This sounds like some serious stupidity.

Landless2029 , (edited )

Simple. A gun whose owner doesn’t honor respect the safety.

Johnmannesca ,
@Johnmannesca@lemmy.world avatar

Right. He probably wasn’t too keen on upkeep and maintenance, treating it like a used Toyota Corolla.

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are guns with flaws that cause them to discharge when dropped, like the SIG P320, so it wasn’t necessarily poor maintenance.

echodot ,

Yeah but why buy a gun with a known tendency of randomly going off?

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Because you are personally unaware despite it being “known” publicly? That’d be my first guess.

Olhonestjim ,

Even the ones that don’t have manual safeties still have automatic safeties these days.

SulaymanF ,

Congress gave gun manufacturers immunity, so they don’t have to concern themselves with safety mechanisms or quality.

Olhonestjim ,

That’s not what that meant.

SulaymanF ,

Actually yes it had that effect. Without that immunity, the market would have felt the pressure and invested more into research into better gun locks etc. The immunity laws took away that incentive. Economists have discussed this issue at length about how the gun market is different than other markets due to this.

Olhonestjim ,

Gun manufacturers have been building ever better internal safeties for decades. If a gun goes off from a slip and fall, somebody is carrying like an absolute idiot, or using an obsolete pistol.

chiliedogg ,

The Sig P320, a $700 pistol from a “quality” brand that was adopted as the new military standard issue pistol, would fire if dropped at the wring angle. They didn’t want to have the trigger-safety mechanism that Glock and others use that includes a spring-loaded trigger lock that prevents the trigger from being pulled without something actually inside the trigger guard to pull it.

So if you dropped it at the wrong angle, it had enough inertia that when the gun hit the ground the trigger would keep moving and pull itself.

This was discovered in military trials, so they fixed the flaw (with a lighter trigger that wouldn’t have as much inertia combined with a heavier trigger pull) for the military, but not for the Civilian model.

A viral YouTube video came out showing how it could be reliably fired by dropping it (the video used blanks so they weren’t actually shooting wildly), and they still denied it was a problem until all the gun dealers refused to sell the gun.

They did a recall, but there’s still probably a million affected guns out there.

WoahWoah ,

Other guns will do that as well. It isn’t necessarily resolved by a trigger safety. Some guns, as shown on a popular guntube channel, will fire if dropped from chest height because the drop and angle causes the firing pin to move with sufficient force to fire the round.

chiliedogg ,

A firing pin shouldn’t be free-floating in a way that will allow it to strike a primer without the trigger being pulled in any modern pistol.

WoahWoah , (edited )

Shouldn’t isn’t doesn’t.

The $4,300 Stacatto XC 2011 for instance, dropped from chest height, fired a round immediately without the hammer dropping. So did several others, and that was just one round of testing.

Most didn’t, but for the most part they were only dropped once or twice and it was a fairly informal test. Literally just someone dropping the pistols from the height of being told “drop your weapon.”

The P320, however, despite being dropped about a dozen times (and from much higher heights and different angles since the test was inspired by the discussions about that model going off) never discharged from being dropped.

chiliedogg ,

A 2011, despite the name, isn’t really a modern firearm. It’s essentially a 9mm version of a 115 year-old design and too many boutique race gun companies cut corners for guns that aren’t designed to anything but range queens.

As popular and fun as the 1911 is at the range, it has no place as a modern defensive firearm, and people who carry It are idiots. They’re super heavy, low capacity, jam, rust, have a trigger pull so short and light they can’t be safely handled while cocked without engaging a safety that’s just a hammer block (leaving the pin floating), are a pain to clean, and more.

WoahWoah , (edited )

🙄

It was one example. My point is, it happens. This is literally a response to you initially pointing it out that it happens in the “modern” P320, and I’m sure you’ve got an unnecessarily long and complicated opinion about each make and model. 👍

chiliedogg ,

The P320 still requires the trigger to be pulled to remove the stop that prevents the firing pin from touching the primer.

The problem with the 320, the Taurus G1, most 911s, and others is the trigger being pulled. It’s why most of the industry has adopted trigger safeties like the one pictured that don’t allow the trigger to move without something inside the trigger guard releasing the trigger.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e6dadd4e-bc56-45cd-b934-fd8962746ba2.jpeg

WoahWoah ,

👍

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

SIG for sure has a problem with one or two of their handguns but I’m curious to know what gun this guy had.

This highlights the danger of carrying, the importance of having a quality holster with good retention, and the necessity of being properly trained in the carry and use of firearms.

WoahWoah ,

I’m glad it doesn’t highlight the danger of guns! That was close!

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Maybe go back and actually read what I wrote? It’s literally the first part of the sentence.

WoahWoah ,

Relax, nerd.

echodot ,

Every gun in every movie I’ve ever watched works like that. If you drop it it fires, never made much sense.

Bongo_Stryker , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

You guys are making jokes but we can all be grateful he died free with his 2nd amendment rights intact. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

bamfic ,

Did he breed? Is this a Darwin Award win?

Bongo_Stryker ,

Edit: I was going to try to add to the comedy but I feel like it’s not actually funny. I get the irony, but I started thinking how I’d feel if I had a family member or friend that died in such a dumb way.

Well he’s in the arms of Jesus now. If there’s any lesson here it’s use a damn holster, people, and take your safety training seriously.

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar
finalarbiter ,

I just started the hildibrand quests yesterday, what a coincidence

julysfire , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say
@julysfire@lemmy.world avatar

I really underappreciated King of the Hill when I was growing up.

Rhaedas , to nottheonion in Man taking trash to dumpster with gun slips, shoots and kills self accidentally, police say

Yet if there's any discussion about better gun safety and education it turns into "you're taking our rights away!"

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