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jarfil , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

the new technology can target specific areas like the radar dome or cockpit

If you can’t make the whole plane with angled surfaces, at least add a cover to the rounded parts. Makes sense.

Still an interesting move to cover the radar dome with radar absorbing plasma, effectively blinding the plane itself…

Called the “closed electron beam plasma stealth device,” it can be activated quickly

…but if it can also be de-activated quickly, then it could make sense.

vanderbilt , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

They also claimed to have “quantum” phased radar. Until we see it in Janes or other OSINT it isn’t credible.

Umbrias ,

Meh plasma could in theory be a very good radar absorber. Plasma stealth isn’t just buzzwords necessarily. A myth possibly.

Whether they got it working in practice is dubious though, it’s an extremely hard engineering challenge. Interesting if true, unlikely given it’s being announced.

Light phasing is already concerned with quantum effects so without seeing the actual claim I mean… Anyone could basically claim that lol.

TubeTalkerX , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

[USA]
Chinese Invisible fighter jet? At this time of year! At this time of day! In this part of the world! Localized entirely within your Country?!?

[China]
Yes.

[USA]
May I see it?

[China]
No.

TheFriar ,

This is vaguely ringing a bell. What’s the reference?

Snowpix ,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Steamed Hams! That’s what I call hamburgers. It’s a regional dialect.

TubeTalkerX , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

Big woop, the Amazonian Women have had this technology for Decades!

Thcdenton , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

Like the kings clothes

TheOSINTguy , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

For those wondering, that is a american F-35A in the picture.

Edit: Also why do people assume stealth means invisable, there not the same thing.

surewhynotlem ,

Invisible*

*To specific detection systems within specific distances at specific times

Jakdracula , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report
@Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

Fighter jets aren’t making much sense these days.

GiveMemes ,

Not to internet theorists, no.

Jakdracula , (edited )
@Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure why the downvotes.

twz.com/…/ukrainian-situation-report-kyiv-claims-…

Billions in development, years of trials, training of pilots, ground crews, parts… all taken out by a $100k missile from over the horizon.

The current Ukraine v Russia war proves every single day that drones are the new hotness.

Jakdracula ,
@Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

And another one down today:

sopuli.xyz/post/9415162

Russia is averaging 40 jets lost a month, and this new uptick looking at 60 jets a month.

Begun the drone wars has.

SturgiesYrFase , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Bet they shine like the noon sun in IR though

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Knowing the Chinese tendency to lie massage the truth this thing is probably only radar transparent in one frequency and lit up like a beacon in all other frequencies.

subverted_per ,

Well yeah, that was my first thought. They coat a part of the plane with a radioactive isotope. It would have to be a lot of the stuff to ionize enough air around the part to hide it from radar. Considering that the plane is flying, and the air around it doesn’t sit still I would guess that in certain frequencies it would be bright as the sun. If this thing works as stated I wouldn’t get close to that thing without a decent amount of concrete between us.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Who wants to volunteer to pilot the cancer plane?

MaggiWuerze ,

It’s like the Voyager episode, when the plane stops two lizards crawl out and mate in a nearby pond

verity_kindle ,

Then abandon their offspring, complying with the One Child Policy.

electricprism , to technology in China's latest stealth tech promises invisible fighter jets, says report

I hope they decoupled the heisenberg compensators if you catch my drift

flop_leash_973 , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program

I’m sure throwing more money and contracts at Musk and SpaceX is going to help solve the problem any day now. /s

NutWrench , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

Anyone concerned that the US will be “overtaken” by anything coming out of China right now needs to go read about what’s been happening in China for the last 5 years.

TheRealKuni ,

What do you mean?

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

If you watch anything other than chinadaily (the CCPs propaganda channel) you’d know exactly what I mean.

TheRealKuni ,

I wasn’t trying to say you were wrong…I legitimately don’t know what you’re trying to say.

h3mlocke ,

Dumbest answer to a simple question, congrats! 🥳

FordBeeblebrox , (edited ) to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program

We all live on this rock. Floating through space.

Anyone who doesn’t want to spend more time looking out is someone with something in their closet you don’t want to look in.

Ad Astra per Aspera

rottingleaf ,

“To thorns, to stars”?..

CooperRedArmyDog ,

theythey have the qote mixed up its Ad Astra Per Aspare, To the stars through dificalties… you see it everywhere in Kansas

rottingleaf ,

Why in Kansas? EDIT: Oh, googled it.

CooperRedArmyDog ,

State Motto… do not ask me why it is the state motto, because I have absolutly no Idea

intensely_human ,

“Just keep going”

orrk ,

well, I think he meant: Per aspera ad astra

just remember that almost all older languages had fewer nouns and verbs, so “thorns” here is referring to difficulty and obstruction

so more meaningfully translated, this old Latin saying is closer to “through great treachery is the path to the stars”

rottingleaf ,

Yes, I know the saying, just was a bit unkind

FordBeeblebrox ,

Ok so the Starfleet quote is “Ad Astra per Aspera”. Should it be Per Aspera ad Astra? Asking for Latin grammar lessons

intensely_human ,

I mean it’s not that hard to recognize “thorns” meaning difficulty and obstruction.

But as I’m saying this, I remember that younger generations didn’t spend time outside as kids. So they may never have pushed through a thicket of thorns.

Eventually, we’ll have people who’ve lived their entire lives in zero-G, and they won’t have an intuitive understanding of the feelings implied by the phrase “stand up for oneself”. They won’t understand the state of motivation versus fatigue implied by “holding one’s chin up”, that the posture of one’s body was a function of the interplay between gravity and dopamine.

FordBeeblebrox ,

Ad Astra Per Aspera

Going for the Starfleet quote, sorry my Latin is lacking

rottingleaf ,

Yes, that’s right

FlyingSquid , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Huh. I wonder if funding NASA better might help, Republicans?

FordBeeblebrox ,

If we fold it into the space force and say it’s for targeting woke weirdos…we’ll get a billion dollars through congress by tomorrow

FlyingSquid ,
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We could just say the “anti-woke” part and not even bother with the space force part and that would probably work.

The woke boogieman is the biggest thing to scare them in years.

intensely_human ,

The woke boogeyman scares us because it, itself, is a set of false threats that are distracting us from real threats.

Like, we’re worried about war, a shifting global power structure, the degradation of systems of detente that keep the worst in humanity from emerging, and the woke crowd wants us to treat the feelings of exclusion of trans people as the most important threat on the board.

The woke movement is a boogeyman movement, and that’s why we treat it as dangerous. The woke movement is a push to get new boogeymen added to our threat list and moved to top priority over things we know will actually kill us.

And thing that really, really scares us, is that the system that has proven to be the salve for the ills of massive unleashed violence, the system we call free market economics, is being targeted by the woke crowd because they refuse to read the history of the things they’re proposing. They’re all like “we don’t want people to suffer so let’s abolish private property”. That’s like saying “we don’t want people to drown, and people tend to drown when they’re near boats, so let’s destroy this boat we’re all in, to prevent drowning!”

It’s terrifying to us because there are serious things to be afraid of, and the woke movement is asking us to ignore or even embrace those things.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There is no “woke movement.” That’s exactly why you’re scared of a boogieman. They don’t exist either.

rottingleaf ,

Call it “search for extraterrestrial woke intelligence” and they’ll melt.

FordBeeblebrox ,

Intelligence that doesn’t come from jeebus?! They’ll burn that ark before it leaves the ground

Search for god or his patio or whatever…now you’ve got Midwest money

rottingleaf ,

“Search for extraterrestrial divine intelligence” or “a strategy to get closer to God through space colonization”, say, a Stanford torus in some L point (that’s so expensive that it ain’t gonna happen, but they’ll also be very excited, I think).

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Instead, I think we should defund China.

rapturous GOP applause and cheering

CooperRedArmyDog ,

They are likely going to fund it less and give more and more of its mission over to space force and private companies is my guess

intensely_human ,

That would also work.

The only thing that won’t work for space is the thing we’re doing now:

  • Maintaining a vice-like government control
  • Using that government authority to choose not to move forward

Progress only stops under a narrow set of conditions that need to be actively implemented by the government. Progress is actually natural, and progress stopping requires enormous centralized effort to interfere with people getting things done.

CooperRedArmyDog ,

I disagree privitizing space will do absolutly nothing but lead to balooned costs and stagnation.

SpaceCowboy ,
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Theoretically private programs would be an increased cost over a NASA only program since private companies want a profit margin.

But Congress being what it is tends to require NASA programs to create jobs in a lot of different voting districts across the country which leads to an insane amount of inefficiencies.

We can’t have nice things because of pork barrel politics.

CooperRedArmyDog ,

Private Companies however have no insintive to actualy innovate, if you look at them they are all taking decades old NASA and USSR Space program tech and resuing it … and callling it innovation

cole ,
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I’m sorry… this is not true lol. You know what SpaceX is up to, right? At the least, but there are tons of interesting and innovative companies. I mean hell look at Stoke Space

AngryCommieKender ,

Switch the funding for the MIC and NASA for one year. We’ll have fusion power cracked in 5.

Honytawk , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program

Don’t worry guys, the US Space Force will make sure they are prevented from entering space.

Filthmontane , to technology in US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China's space program

Looking at their space station, I think China already has overtaken NASA.

SpaceCowboy ,
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Their station has like three modules (with plans to add 3 more) and capacity for 3 people. The ISS has at least 16 modules (maybe over 30 depending on what you count as a module) and capacity for over a dozen people.

Like many things from authoritarian countries, it looks nice but isn’t even close in terms of capabilities.

Filthmontane ,

Authoritarianism is not equal to capabilities. In fact, the Soviet space program was significantly more capable for a very long time

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