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son_named_bort , to lemmyshitpost in Bigly if true

Mind = blown

TruthAintEasy , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...
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Gun scare people. Scared people with guns fire more bullets. More gunfire scares more people, causing them to buy guns for protection. Now those additional scared people with guns use them, bringing that same fear they feel to more of their neighbours, who respond by buying guns to protect themselves...

If you really want an armed populace just make it mandatory for all citizens to complete 1 year of military service, with the people retaining their service arms at home. This way everyone is trained the same way and follows the same standards with their weapons. This takes the 'cool' factor out of owning guns, takes the identity politics out of it, and the criminals will now know that they likely cannot gain the advantage in fire power just by getting a high capacity magazine.

It would also calm the cops down, because the year of manditory service will weed out all the crazies that cant handle the responsibility of gun ownership, and since everyone went to the same program you have an automatic national database of who isnt fit for ownership. Give mental health proffessionals the ability to flag on the database when an idividual is having issues so their weapons can be TEMPORARILY removed untill their mental health is restored.

The 2a guys will also lose their main talking point: government is the one giving them the gun now, they would look stupid REEEing about 'gubberment wants muh guns!!'

It seems like the USA will never say no to guns, so why not go full ham instead of just letting every state make up its own rules as it goes along? The current system has some very obvious flaws. Freedom should not be free, it should require responsibiliy, the proof is in the never ending american gun tragedy.

Edit: accidentally tripple posted, still learning the UI... deleted the two duplicates, and fixed some bad grammar

Valmond ,

Are there no mandatory service in the USA?

iknowitwheniseeit ,

No. Men between 18 and 25 have to register with the government, but that’s it:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

Daxtron2 ,

On top of criminal punishments for not registering, you also won’t receive any federal assistance for college, employment, loans, etc.

BluJay320 ,
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You lost me at mandatory service. No way in hell I’m contributing to the industrial war machine

TruthAintEasy ,
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Fair enough, there are no perfect solutions

mononomi , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...

Anybody know an article about this? Can’t find it and really curious about the backstory

AZERTY ,
jpreston2005 ,

This in no way excuses the ludicrous use of force by the police, but… They forgot the keys, so they broke their own window to get in? who does that? It’s an apartment, call the super? or a locksmith? Get called to a break-in, see signs of forced entry, see someone coming to the door with a gun… Yeah that’d be intense all right. Doesn’t excuse the police actions but dang. bit more understandable

Froyn ,

Sometimes it's cheaper to replace a window than it is to pay an extortive "lock out fee" from a complex.

BruceTwarzen ,

A new window cost me 40.- a locksmith 300.-

mdd ,

Easier for me to break the door open and fix it later. Why yes, I have kicked my door open twice. Also kicked in a friends door.

FilterItOut ,

It’s quite reasonable for most of Americans. Apartment managers won’t answer at night. The locksmith isn’t going to answer at night very often, and when you find the one that does answer it will be an hour or longer for them to arrive. Kick in the window, replace it with a half hour trip to the hardware store the next day. You’ve saved a half hour in total, and probably a large amount of money.

jpreston2005 ,

dude, windows are expensive, where are people buying cheap windows??

FilterItOut ,

I broke the window in my friend’s place (hilarious story, not relevant here, totally) and it was about $20 at the hardware store for the glass, glass cutter, and caulking. Between the two of us it took about 15 minutes to cut the appropriate size of glass and get the caulk looking semi-professional. We aren’t talking a complete replacement of the window frame, paneling, cutouts, etc. We also aren’t talking anything custom or fancy. If you can point to a double-paned glass window or some extremely fancy one that exists in an apartment complex (in Houston, of all places, too, so you know multi-housing developments are cheap as fuck), you are going to have a butler ready to open the door for you and won’t need a key in the first place.

jpreston2005 ,

Oh, I didn’t realize you weren’t talking about a whole-ass window, that makes more sense for the price if you’re just replacing it with whatever glass you can find

Maggoty , (edited )

Jesus Christ. Yet again a law abiding citizen is responsible for recognizing the police and responding in the exact right way in a split second. While the police are allowed to act like terrified wild animals.

I take that sentence back after seeing the run up footage linked in this article. This was nothing more than an ambush. They knock on the door and then move off to the side. They then open fire the second they see her. There was zero chance for the victim to even realize it was the police.

tigeruppercut ,

It’s legal to carry a gun in the US, but cops can execute you if you have one. Really surprised there haven’t been more reports of homeowners mag dumping at cops and then the excuse at trial could just be “thought it was a break in”.

Maggoty ,

The problem with that is they call reinforcements and kill you with overwhelming force. It’s really a no win situation once a cop panics and decides you’re armed.

Blue_Morpho , to lemmyshitpost in When you want an APC, but you're on a budget

I came here to discuss UPSs. Was not disappointed.

ryan213 , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...
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Take that, plant!

Spaghetti_Hitchens ,

Seriously. Fuck that plant

ryan213 ,
@ryan213@lemmy.ca avatar

Just standing there looking all planty. Who do they think they are?!

NoIWontPickaName ,

I heard they’re photosynthesizers

ryan213 ,
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Those bastards!

brown567 ,

It might have had an acorn!

0x4E4F OP ,
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My thoughts exactly… like, it’s dead, let it rest in pieces, sheesh…

resetbypeer , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...

Disappointing video. I expected a column of Abraham tanks to join the party, driven by killer whales.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

That would have been the official police statement if not for the body cams.

Diabolo96 , (edited ) to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...

If the thing they were shooting at was ever alive it wouldn’t have been the first full mag of bullets unloaded on their body, but after several mags by several cops being dumped on the body, then by the time it’s taken to the morgue it’ll have more holes than swiss cheese.

TseseJuer ,

not very american cheese of them

Diabolo96 ,

Patriots are in shambles! But then again, dude wasn’t fat enough to be visible from behind the tree, so he probably wasn’t even American. /j

0x4E4F OP ,
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Lol 🤣🤣🤣, last part made me chuckle

amio ,

Ironically "Swiss cheese" is pretty American

Fiivemacs ,

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  • amio ,

    There are several Swiss cheeses that are notable, but referring to one specific kind as "Swiss" (that may or may not be Swiss Swiss), I believe is a US thing to do?

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Ironically, there are very little holes in actual Swiss cheese.

    MudSkipperKisser ,

    Hello I’d like to introduce you to my friend Alpine Lacy Swiss, she is majestic and quite holey.

    I heard it as I typed it and I regret nothing

    0x4E4F OP ,
    @0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Alpine is a Linux distro.

    I typed it as I know it, I regret nothing.

    Maggoty ,

    Apparently she not only survived, but she was also only hit 5 times out of at least 40 shots. These cops need to be fired because they panic and they suck at shooting if they ever were in real danger.

    FordBeeblebrox ,

    I think the poor plant caught more rounds than the woman. These cops are terrible at everything about this

    HikingVet , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...

    Multiple mag dumps and I can’t tell what they are firing at.

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Apparently, it was a mistake. It was the home owner.

    HikingVet ,

    What in the flying fuck? Homeowner should be legally entitled to fire back.

    TseseJuer ,

    that’s terrorism

    HikingVet ,

    What, cops show up and start mag dumping on the wrong house? Agreed.

    If an armed force starts shooting especially in the manner that they did, I’m siding with the person who defends themselves.

    TseseJuer ,

    should I have add this for those on the spectrum?

    /s

    HikingVet ,

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  • TseseJuer ,

    lol ok I guess

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Since this is probably in the US, yes. But not where I come from.

    FilterItOut ,

    If the homeowner had fired back, and killed the cops, they would likely be cleared of wrongdoing (eventually, like a loooong eventually). It’s already happened several times.

    fluxion ,

    I was gonna make a joke about “hopefully they got the right person”, but i guess i forgot I live in the darkest timeline.

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Yeah… I wasn’t too surprised as well… that many mags and that much force… I mean… come on, anyone with half a brain would have emptied like 5 rounds max and got behind something… to access the situation, try and get the other side talking or whatever…

    But, in this day and age, stuff like this doesn’t surprise me at all.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    So, the usual?

    awwwyissss ,

    The person broke into the house, that’s why the cops were there. Then they went to the door with a gun, that’s why they opened fire.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
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    Probably because that person wasn’t part of a well regulated militia. The system is working as intended.

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Sir, I don’t have enough accounts to upvote your comment.

    WeirdGoesPro ,
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    That is not accurate. Someone broke into a different apartment and a neighbor said there was a window broken at this one. They went to investigate, and this was the result.

    www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/…/ar-BB1icmx1

    abcnews.go.com/US/…/story?id=107171359

    awwwyissss ,

    Per your second source a gun was found near the doorway and

    “According to the Sheriff’s Office account in the video, the deputies went to investigate the reported break-in and saw “the front window screen removed, broken glass and the blinds raised, near the front door.” The deputies knocked, and one of them announced their presence. It is unclear from the body camera footage where the glass was broken.”

    halcyoncmdr ,
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    It is unclear from the body camera footage where the glass was broken.

    Probably wasn’t broken at all until they unloaded through the window.

    thesporkeffect ,

    That’s the fun part - they don’t know either. It’s an adventure!

    brown567 ,

    Acorn prolly 🤷‍♂️

    Suburbanl3g3nd ,

    I thought they were shooting at the potted plant.

    Macaroni_ninja , to lemmyshitpost in Why not throw a granade in there as well...
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    Was it a pine cone?

    0x4E4F OP ,
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    Probably a spider.

    ma11en ,

    Acorn!

    Gork ,

    WHERE?

    starts shooting

    Evil_Shrubbery ,

    The “WHERE?” part is optional ofc.

    Evotech , to lemmyshitpost in When you want an APC, but you're on a budget

    OpenAI is crazy

    Treczoks , to lemmyshitpost in Bigly if true

    As in: "Every five seconds, a woman gives birth to a child in China. We have to find that woman and stop her!"

    swab148 , to lemmyshitpost in When you want an APC, but you're on a budget
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    They’re just being environmentally conscious

    tygerprints , to lemmyshitpost in Bigly if true

    Is that true? Why isn't someone doing something to protect african children from this sinfulness?

    Graphine , to lemmyshitpost in Bigly if true

    Kids in Africa could’ve eaten those minutes

    KingJalopy ,

    There’s no time

    AceSLS ,

    This is deep

    elliot_crane , to lemmyshitpost in Bigly if true

    Osvaldo12 is the 🐐

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