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prettybunnys , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2

This tank dressed up as killdozer for Halloween

skillissuer ,
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half year late… blame russian logistics

Justas , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

Makes battering ram sounds

Rentlar ,

B O N K

swab148 , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2
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Wololo!

Etterra , to funny in The invisible person in your home everyone hates

That first one is just my fiancee. I’ve learned not to grab jars and pill bottles from the top.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wouldn’t it just be easier for everyone for her to remember to close them?

Djtecha ,

You’ve clearly never been here before

Tar_alcaran , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2

Step 1: install several scopes and viewers to give better tactical insight into surroundings

Step 2: install multiple hatches so everyone can look around and spot enemies, trading awareness for minor weak spots.

Step 3: cover up all the weak spots with slabs of thin metal.

Victory!

nuke , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2
@nuke@sh.itjust.works avatar

Y’all laughing now wait till they research Drill and all siege units move 50% faster

zaphod , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2

Is this the evolution of the cope cage?

nuke , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2
@nuke@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s the Blyatmobile!

UlfKirsten , to noncredibledefense in When your tank looks more like the battering ram from Age of Empires 2

Does it work?

dessalines , to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot

/uj Steam is just an intermediary form for almost all these tho (except maybe geothermal? not sure), not the real source.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Steam just makes sense as a fluid for heat engines, thermal power plants are mostly steam, except when gas turbines are involved, but even then there’s most of the time steam bottoming cycle. (gas turbine burns something, then exhaust is hot enough to power steam cycle) Unless thermal power plant is small, then it’s more likely to be diesel engine (up to few MW). Only when it’s photovoltaics, or hydropower, or wind farm (or tidal powerplant, or some other weird ones) there’s no place for steam to be involved (solar thermal plants sometimes use steam cycle). Geothermal powerplants use steam if source is hot enough, otherwise it’s something more volatile in organic Rankine cycle

SpaceNoodle ,

Hydroelectric is just liquid steam, and wind is just cold, thin steam.

dessalines ,

I’m referring to the root energy source, rather than how it’s transferred.

skillissuer ,
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Then it’s just heat transfer medium for most of geothermal powerplants too, because from what i understand, most of the time condensed water is recycled (and source of energy is just “hot rocks” anyway)

then if you look at the bigger picture, all that energy can be traced back to either sun, nuclear fission (in reactors) or nuclear decay/primordial heat (geothermal)

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

“Root” energy source really just depends on where you draw boundaries of thermodynamic system in question

WarmSoda ,

Geothermal power still uses steam to generate electricity. It’s steams all the way down.

dessalines ,

Steam isn’t the energy source tho, just a transfer mechanism.

Strykker ,

Same for all the others like coal and nuclear though. So that’s a dumb distinction to try to make.

Steam is always just a transfer mechanism if it’s part of the power generation

dessalines ,

Then why focus on steam specifically, why not other required intermediaries, like turbines, the storage mechanism.

The main meaningful distinction in energy generation is the root sources of the energy, nuclear, wind, hydro, etc. All of those share similar conversion methods and intermediary forms, but have different sources.

Strykker ,

Because it’s a funny fucking meme my dude.

WarmSoda ,

Hence the meme. Because almost everything uses steam.

Any other jokes you want to break down for no reason?

tja ,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Solar is an exception I think

zout ,

True, but there are also solar steam systems, using a parabolic mirror to focus the sun on a steam drum.

Schadrach ,

Arguably these are even greener than photovoltaics, since they don’t require the same kinds of materials to make (mostly just steel) and last longer than photovoltaics are supposed to. They use a fair bit of water, but you probably aren’t building them in places where water is at a premium.

Strykker ,

I mean the main steam cycle solar plants are built in dry sunny hot regions, not exactly a great source of water, but probably not completely void of it either.

WarmSoda ,

Solar, wind, and hydro don’t use steam. (Well, hydro can bypass the steam part. It depends)

SpaceNoodle ,

Hydroelectric is just liquid steam, and wind is just cold, thin steam.

Kjev ,
@Kjev@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

and diodes

empireOfLove2 , (edited ) to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot
@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Water and steam just too goddamn convenient. Super high latent heat so it can move a ton of energy with a quick phase change, works at reasonable pressures and temperatures, stays liquid all the time when you want it to so pumps work, and it’s so readily available as to be damn near free. Super cool!

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

also almost non-corrosive, non-toxic, doesn’t damage ozone layer, zero global warming potential, non-flammable etc (lots of organic rankine cycle fluids fail one or more of these. tradeoff is utilization of lower temperature sources)

marcos ,

zero global warming potential

This one isn’t right. Nobody will complain about you releasing it, but it’s a quite strong global warming gas.

Belgdore ,

But it can be contained and condensed for reused.

empireOfLove2 , (edited )
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Very strong GWP, but it does this cool thing where it condenses when it hits colder air and falls back to the ground in liquid state, thus removing itself from the atmosphere…

(It’s equivalent GWP is near zero and is estimated to be between 0.0005 and )

something_random_tho ,

Tell me more about this incredible process. Does it have a name?

Klear ,

If it doesn’t I propose a simple and descriptive “waterfall”.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I prefer the more poetic “God pissing on the monkeys”

SeekPie ,

What would the white stuff that comes from the sky then be called?

anothercatgirl ,

precipitation

wewbull ,

Power station fall-out

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

it condenses when it hits colder air and falls back to the ground in liquid state, thus removing itself from the atmosphere

Oh sure … blame it on the rain.

Car ,

It’s great for nuclear reactors. Hot rock make turbine go brrr

Steve ,

Best explanation of nuclear energy I’ve ever heard

Steve ,

Nuclear energy is solar too

anothercatgirl ,

nah not solar, the energy comes not from Sol the star, but from dead stars of past.

wewbull ,

Him: Our sun is a nuclear reactor too.

You: Our nuclear reactors are made of dead suns.

Both right, yet disagreeing.

Reddfugee42 ,

In the same way that hydrogen, given sufficient time, turns into people

paddirn , to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot

If/when aliens ever visit us, it’ll be with glorified steam engines.

Glowstick , (edited ) to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot

Solar photovoltaic is the only one i can think of that isn’t just a fancy way to make steam

EDIT

ok let’s clarify to say a method that isn’t related to movement of a fluid that spins a turbine. So not windmills (air is a fluid), not hydro, not geothermal, etc.

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

All power generation is either solar or ‘make thing spin’, unless we’re including RTGs and Piezoelectrics.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

All of these are in some way heat engines

herrvogel ,

Yeah but those heat engines don’t rely on spinning things inside a magnetic field. Heat on one side, less heat on the other side, and you have current. No motors.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

even photovoltaics are heat engines in broad definition

herrvogel ,

We’re all heat engines on this blessed day if you broaden the definition enough.

Steve ,

Solar thermal power…

Turun ,

Yes? Makes things spin.

rainynight65 ,

But not all electricity generation is based on boiling water. Wind, hydro and tidal don’t need to generate large amounts of heat to make steam that spins a turbine, they just use natural movement to do so.

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, make thing spin

wewbull ,

Peltier Effect?

Voyajer ,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the principle used by RTGs right?

NegativeInf ,

Piezoelectricity is the only other I can really think of. But it’s not like we are out here smacking crystals with hammers to make power.

agressivelyPassive ,

Why not, though?

On a serious note: that’s exactly what we’re doing with lighters. At least some of them use piezo elements and not the sparkly wheel thingy to ignite the gas. And it’s real fun to zap yourself with it.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah, it was a fun journey of learning to look into it. It’s quartz btw. Very piezoelectric and extremely common.

oxideseven ,

The conversion rate isn’t great.

There were talks of using them in sidewalks, but it doesn’t really make much sense really. Piezo almost always only works as energy recovery, which isn’t nothing but you will need the infrastructure which also isn’t nothing.

bl_r ,

Give buskers the acoustic guitar with a link to the grid and every time they play they’ll generate a ton of electricity (in relative terms…)

Electro-Acoustic guitars use piezos to pick up the audio if you didn’t know

Glowstick ,

Even if we used piezo, the movement of the hammer would still have to come from some power source, which would still be the same sources like moving steam, water, or wind.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

piezoelectricity is just simple electric motor

NegativeInf ,

?

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

piezo crystal is electric motor. you input deformation of the crystal and get potential difference on opposite sides. other way around also works

NegativeInf ,

Oh! Gotcha! Makes sense. Forgot about crystal vibrations for clockworks. Thanks!

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

it’s a special case there, because for frequencies in question mechanical quartz resonator has much higher Q than any electrical resonator you can practically build. that is, mechanical properties of piezo crystal stabilize voltage oscillations

Jyek ,

Wait a minute, what IF

Faresh ,

I guess aeolic energy also doesn’t use steam (unless we count the air humidity), but still involves turning a turbine.

lens17 ,

Excuse my blatant ignorance, but what is aeolic energy? I’ve never heard about it before.

TheTetrapod ,

Apparently it’s the fancy word for wind power.

lens17 ,

What a dissapointment.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

or just french

wewbull ,

French words are the fancy words in English. French was the language of the upper classes for a long time.

oxideseven ,

Garlic power.

Nah, just a non-traditional way of saying wind generators like turbines.

ForgotAboutDre ,

Hydro power uses running water not hot water.

Squeezing can be converter to electricity with pizeo electric. Heat difference can be converted into electric directly with peltier devices. Both of these are very inefficient ways to make electricy.

Zorg ,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

I’m the spirit of this comment, water is just cold steam.

NegativeInf ,

How do you feel about water ice being a mineral?

lledrtx ,

What about Wind Mills?

drolex ,

Wind is just dry steam

spechter ,

Seriously though

Also hydroelectric

someguy3 , (edited )

That’s just condensed steam.

agressivelyPassive ,

By that logic, solar is just a huge pile of steam undergoing fusion.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Plasma is spicy steam

lledrtx ,

You know that’s a stretch 😉 but I’ll give it to you. But we are not MAKING wind/steam there.

Resonosity ,

Aerokinetics/hydrokinetics as well. With steam, we’re creating the source fluid that turns the turbines to make electricity. Those source fluids can also exist as wind/tides/rivers naturally.

frezik ,

The peltier effect can be used to generate electricity from a thermal gradient. It’s not very efficient, though. There’s a reason mechanical means of electrical production predominate.

skillissuer ,
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there are also fuel cells

FreshLight , to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot

It always produces unbelievably great memes when another person discovers how humanity generates energy from splitting atoms. I was baffled, too.

captainlezbian ,

It just makes sense. Our only way to convert electromagnetic radiation to current is photovoltaics, so solar. No way to convert alpha/beta radiation to current. So what else does fission release? Fuckload of motion. Mostly heat if it’s not as a blast, in which case it’s still mostly heat but with a pressure wave that levels cities. Heat though, heat were real good at making into electricity.

Num10ck , to science_memes in Hooooooooooooooooooot

is it time for steam cars to make a come back?

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
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Nothing I’d love more than waking up an hour early to stoke my car’s boiler.

WarmSoda ,

Giggity

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