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BuryMyHorse , to technology in Midjourney might ban Biden and Trump images this election season

Oh no… if they didnt went public they might have stopped all the people who are generating in advance

qaz , to technology in Midjourney might ban Biden and Trump images this election season

That seems like a reasonable decision

mvirts , to technology in Midjourney might ban Biden and Trump images this election season

Too bad it’ll still work for a world leader who looks kinda like his name rhymes with hidin’ or disgraced cheeto

PeterPoopshit , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

Definitely not the IT people keeping their ai servers running, that’s for sure.

GigglyBobble ,

TIL IT is volunteer work.

Louisoix , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

I know it’s a small and unimportant thing, but it’s still kinda annoying that some authors (editors?) choose a phone with a giant black hole in the middle of a screen to show something on thumbnails.

Dark_Arc ,
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It’s an iPhone app… And that’s an iPhone screen…? I’m not sure what you want them to do?

brlemworld , to technology in Ex-Apple engineer sentenced to six months in prison for stealing self-driving car tech

How long is Tim Cook going to jail for stealing the technology for the apple watch?

KairuByte ,
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Infringing on a patent and literally stealing hardware, and taking it to a Chinese competitor, are on completely different levels.

FaceDeer , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

Why does everything have to be about money?

dantheclamman OP ,
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Well people who make content are already suffering for a collapse of ad prices. News sites are shutting down left and right. Not everything is about money, but they need revenue or external support to continue operating.

GenderNeutralBro ,

I see the advent of AI browsers much like ad blockers; the web has become increasingly user-hostile and users are pushing back. Advertising was never sustainable, and that has only become more apparent over the past decade. This is a long-overdue comeuppance. The cost of the advertising economy is extraordinary and cannot be measured in mere dollars.

I miss the internet from the 90s, when sites were information-dense and operated mostly as a public service by enthusiasts, usually for free. Of course, that was not sustainable as the Internet became more popular, because the cost of serving a thousand people was, like, couch-cushion money, but the cost of serving billions of people…well, I don’t have millions of couch cushions to plunder.

But also, the cost of web site operation today is artificially high, largely because of advertising and the incentives that an ad-driven market creates. What was once a few KB of text is now many MB of ads, scripts, layouts, and graphics, or even GB of videos, all for the sake of manipulating users into viewing more ads. Commercial sites do not compete on the quality of information; they compete over ad impressions. This was not borne out of need, but out of economic incentives that are misaligned with the needs of society, individuals, and, yes, even content producers.

This isn’t new, of course. I remember the same conversations back in the 90s and early 2000s. First with Sherlock, then later with Google.

FaceDeer ,
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People who make content for money are suffering from a collapse in ad prices. There are people who make content because they enjoy making and sharing content.

Corkyskog ,

That’s not what we’re talking about… we’re talking about news. Real news, with investigative journalism costs money. You need to pay for people to be on the ground, travel expense, etc.

willya ,
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This thought that everything you consume online should be completely free is insane. If everything we consumed online was just someone’s hobby there’d be even more trash.

sin_free_for_00_days ,

There sure was a lot less trash when the web first came to the internet and there weren’t any paid sites. Of course there was a lot less everything.

willya ,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

When it first started there were more smart people using it over dumbasses. What was there that would have even been worth paying for?

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Not everyone creates content to make money. This discussion and this thread is not about making any money, as an example.

So why do we post when there is no monetary gain? Because we enjoy it.

dantheclamman OP ,
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I have a long-running blog for fun, so you’re preaching to the choir. But some things can’t replace a dedicated journalist, particularly at local level, sitting in city council meetings, chasing leads, and interviewing people.

redempt ,

we live under capitalism.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

And yet there are still hobbyists. We only "live under capitalism" to the extent that we have to, people still do things for reasons other than money.

FunderPants , to technology in Midjourney might ban Biden and Trump images this election season

I feel like the cat is way out of the bag on this. Stable diffusion can be run locally. Hugging Face has over 15,000 models labelled with text to image generation.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

I'm sure there will be (or already are) Trump and Biden Loras.

FunderPants ,

If not the two of them are so public that it would take a bad actor no time at all to train one.

What do you need, 20 pics.

awesomesauce309 ,

1 pic and an IPAdapter

FunderPants ,

Just looked that up, it’s amazing stuff.

altima_neo ,
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Dont even need them. Theyre such big names that theyre already baked into the base model.

otter ,

I guess it’s a matter of increasing the friction to making one. This will slightly decrease the number of them?

Or they just don’t want to be associated with it

Bogasse ,
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But that’s not necessary a better thing to do then. It might decrease awareness on the ease of generating fake images for the general public 🙁

TheRealCharlesEames , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

Thank you to Arc for reminding me how much I enjoy browsing the internet and its many unique pages — these soulless generated results are the opposite of what I want.

fidodo ,

More and more of the Internet is being ai generated, so you’ll get to choose from a soulless summary or soulless SEO spam.

1984 ,
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There will be alternatives I think. Maybe the web turns into even more trash but then there will be alternatives for people who knows where to look.

I guess it’s the fate of the web to become cable TV. But that doesn’t mean we have to watch that content.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

If I want to get them quick, I'd take them soulless and summarized.

General_Effort , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

No AutoTL;DR? Smart bot even understands discretion!

corsicanguppy , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

How does it help creators? Without them there is no web…” After all, if a web browser sucked out all information from web pages without users needing to actually visit them, why would anyone bother making websites in the first place

This reminds me of when Mozilla was 0.9 and the web was just taking the baton from Gopher.

When Ben suggests there would be no web without monetization, he seems to forget WHEN HE WAS THERE before the sellout.

Nurgle , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

Lemmy: Fuck them kids journalists.

TheRealCharlesEames , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

Thank you to Arc for reminding me how much I enjoy browsing the internet and its many unique pages — these soulless generated results are the opposite of what I want.

Imgonnatrythis , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

This isn’t keeping me up at night. I’m fully confident advertisers will figure out how to ruin this and get their money.

ThePyroPython ,

Like, for example, breaking my ability to back out of this Engadget page on Connect for Lemmy’s default web browser so I had to close the app and reopen it.

kubica ,
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In browsers you can long press the back button, and it will show the history so you can really jump where you want. Not sure if on Connect you can but maybe is worth a shot.

kayazere , to technology in Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?

While I prefer to doing the reading/searching/summarizing myself, rather than have it presented to me, the current website revenue model is so broken with ads, tracking, and other pop ups. The user experience is really horrible.

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