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HollandJim , to world in Apple may face a mammoth fine after the EU said it violated competition rules

Easy for many to jump on the “fuck Apple” bandwagon, but the EU doesn’t say what they want - just “nope, it’s not that…”.

The EU Is Reaping What It Sows With the DMA: Uncertainty

awesome_lowlander ,

Personally, I’m happy to see regulations that hold megacorps to the spirit and intent of those regulations, rather than having a dozen loopholes they can pass through. The lawyers are of course unhappy since they can’t argue in court that they met the absolute minimum letter of the law.

arandomthought ,

Thank you, this gets to the core of the problem. Exorbitant amounts of money and effort is spent to find where the letter of the law does not match the spirit of the law. Language is messy, so it never completely will. But in cases where the spirit of the law is so obvious I’m happy when it’s enforced instead of letting them off on technicalities.

Viking_Hippie , to world in Apple may face a mammoth fine after the EU said it violated competition rules

up to 10 percent of its global annual revenue

Should a DMA violation be repeated, fines can reach up to 20 percent of global annual revenue.

That’s over a thousand dollars!

Throughout the past several months, Apple has made a number of changes to comply with bypass the DMA

Fixed that for them

We are confident our plan complies with the law,

It most likely doesn’t.

and estimate more than 99 percent of developers would pay the same or less in fees to Apple under the new business terms we created.

Translation: current fleecing levels will remain

All developers doing business in the EU on the App Store have the opportunity to utilize the capabilities that we have introduced, including the ability to direct app users to the web to complete purchases at a very competitive rate.

You’re still free to pay us for using the cheaper services provided by others.

As we have done routinely, we will continue to listen and engage with the European Commission.”

We’re paying close attention to find out how best to bypass the law without paying the fines

delaying the rollout of Apple Intelligence — the company’s name for a suite of generative AI features that will debut in iOS 18 — and some other features in the EU. “We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security,” the company told Bloomberg.

Translation: they won’t let us monetize every tiny bit of data with no compensation or even notice

Fuck Apple. Fuck their walled garden profiteering bullshit. FUCK their blatant lies about it.

awesome_lowlander ,

That’s over a thousand dollars!

This line I take issue with. EU penalties are possibly the most painful of all marketplaces worldwide.

Viking_Hippie ,

I know, I was just being silly for the sake of being silly on that one heh.

Fining Apple tens of billions of dollars is genuinely a great start towards making it not financially viable for them to break the law, so I’m all for it!

xmunk , to workreform in Uber is locking New York drivers out of its apps and blaming a city pay rule

So… ban Uber.

xmunk , to world in Apple may face a mammoth fine after the EU said it violated competition rules

Is the fine more than a hundred billion? If not it’s fucking chump change to Apple.

rbesfe , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

Scamming has never been so quick and efficient. Thanks crypto!

Varyk , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

Victimless crime

andrewta ,

Hoping you dropped the obvious /s

Varyk ,

Totally /s

TheOneWithTheHair , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar

They literally turned 50cent into millions.

Chozo ,

Your comment pairs nicely with your avatar.

rambling_lunatic ,

We have avatars?

answersplease77 , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

so many celebrities claim that all their social media were “hacked” right after the pump-and-dump scheme is finished

hperrin , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

They took him for every cent!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, only 50 of them.

tacosanonymous , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

I’m suppressing a chuckle.

eskimofry , to news in Someone apparently hacked 50 Cent’s accounts to peddle a memecoin and made off with millions

This just shows 50cent he needs a smarter fanbase.

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

Or that he’s not properly taking advantage of the one he has

abbiistabbii , to technology in Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s basically the idea behind these laws.

Conservatives want to make porn illegal, which isn’t easy under traditional means, so they’re taking the “Putin” approach as I put it, make viewing porn hard, unattractive or even dangerous and make delivering porn to people hard, unattractive and dangerous.

Requiring an ID from the government to view porn means the government can tell who is watching what. If one of those people happens to run for office or get a little too campaigny, their porn history can be named and shamed.

And porn providers know this, and know that will drive people away from their sites, and on top of this implementing this will likely be bureaucratic and likely expensive, so they’ll stop serving an area.

And when this is applied to non porn sites that have porn like Reddit or twitter or Tumblr, well guess what’s going to happen, those sites will ban porn from their site.

It’s basically banning porn by making it impossible to get porn in a way that doesn’t end up with you getting blackmailed. Children have nothing to do with it.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

*human porn.

Google can’t even block yiff with safe search, lol. AI has incredible difficulty with evaluating furry porn. Which means that Mitch McConnell is going to live out his final days looking at anthropomorphic hyenas that could benchpress a fridge and have 11 inches of freedom, lmao.

Generations of southerners and people in the central US are going to be looking at considerable amounts of yiff if conservatives have their way.

abbiistabbii ,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I love the defiant cursed energy here.

Wahots ,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

It is…inevitable. A shame, really. >:)

BigMacHole , to technology in Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws

All these states are Small Government Freedom states!

IllNess ,

Also the “Think about the children!” states but force birth on minors, don’t give healthcare or food to kids, and vote in pedophiles.

GrindingGears ,

Cons just care about the kid until they are born. Not one second longer than that.

pbjamm ,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

Unless they are marrying them

GrindingGears ,

They don’t marry them, they just diddle them underage on exotic island compounds.

along_the_road OP , to technology in Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws

Over the past year, Pornhub had to make the difficult decision to block access to users in numerous American states due to newly passed Age Verification laws (Texas, Utah, Arkansas, Virginia, Montana, North Carolina, Mississippi). In July 2024, we will unfortunately be blocking several more states who are introducing similar laws. (Indiana, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky and Nebraska.)

BlameThePeacock ,

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Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Pornhub should buy a VPN service. Just cut out the middle man.

Darkassassin07 ,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

The middle-man provides plausible deniability in this case. PornHub can genuinely say they don’t see connections from age-verification states atm. That stops being true if they host the VPN, making them aware of actual client locations.

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Wonder if a parent company could own them both.

limerod ,

That would be a liability, and they would go after the parent company crying foul play.

InternetUser2012 ,

That’s a pretty red list there. Congrats to the mouthbreathers with two brain cells fighting for third place that get their porn from humping their cousins.

InternetUser2012 ,

Musta hit a nerve with a maga mod.

Fizz , to technology in Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws

Pornhub is only pulling out to punish the states for trying to stand up to them. In classic American monopoly fashion they go on the attack as soon as any legislation targets them.

Pornhub claims the reason is because they dont to collect government ID but Pornhub collects user data and understands who their customers are. Adding government ID to their data would hardly be anymore of a privacy invasion and it’s not like they are forced to store it.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve never, ever seen anyone lick boots harder than this.

Fizz ,

OK

hanna ,

Imo this law is actually in a way pushing for a porn monopoly, if you by law need to provide an id, are you gonna trust some random site with that info or the big one everyone uses

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

OP’s claim here is just BS. PornHub is in no way a monopoly or even close. It reads like someone who has literally never searched for porn on the internet. Astroturf.

Cube6392 ,

PornHub is a monopoly. They own xnxx, redtube, xhamster, and several production companies such as brazzers. Their categorization system has also had some ranging impacts on actresses’ ability to get work after they turn 22. I highly recommend listening to The Butterfly Effect by Jon Ronson.

ALSO so we’re clear, I’m not a fan of this legislation because its dumb as fuck and doesn’t help anyone, least of all sex workers. When people lose easy access to porn it usually results in WORSE conditions for sex workers because suddenly there’s more demand in places without safety infrastructure.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Can you define what part of PornHub owning a lot of other porn sites makes them a monopoly? Part of being a monopoly is being anticompetitive. What has PornHub done in terms of lobbying or other anticompetitive practices which makes it more difficult for a new company sharing porn to take hold? Because there is a ton of porn online which is unrelated to PornHub.

I’m all for calling out monopolies, but I legit don’t see one here. I’m open to being wrong.

I don’t believe that the thing about actresses getting work after 22 is reliant on PornHub. Porn has worked that way for 50+ years my dude.

veroxii ,

Yeah I was just in Utah for business and didn’t even realise there was a block. I didn’t go to pornhub but all my regular sites just worked. 🤷‍♂️🍆

circuitfarmer , (edited )
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

With other industries, owning 5, 10, 15 other sites might be indicative of a monopoly. But there is a metric fuckton of porn online.

Edit: pardon me, a *metric fucktonne

veroxii ,

What’s that in imperial shitloads?

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m sure inflation has affected that too

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Part of being a monopoly is being anticompetitive

No it’s not. Being hit with antitrust laws requires first being a monopoly, but the monopoly state exists merely by virtue of size within the industry.

Edit: to be clear the only point I am making here is in relation to that definition you provided. Nothing more.

Sir_Kevin , (edited )
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Owning a dozen or so websites doesn’t make them a monopoly when there are tens of thousands of porn sites available.

There are countless models over the age of 22 making bank in the porn industry. The only difference is that they have talent.

lostwonder ,

they don’t own xhamster.

TexMexBazooka ,

Lol wuht

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

attack

They just pull out of those states. How is that an attack?

Fizz ,

Law maker enacts legislation towards a company. The company is able to comply but instead the company pulls the service or severelyndegrades it. Then when users are pissed off the company will point to the law maker and say “they forced us to do this”. The law maker then suffers the blacklash of companies service withdrawal.

Apple tried this with the EU usb c but eventually backed down. John deer tried this with right to repair. There are many cases where companies use these tactics to try and bully law makers away from regulating them and I think i know it’s legal and their right to do so but I find it gross.

I don’t think the law makers should be solving the “problem” this way but I also don’t think pornhub should deny service from an entire state because they want an an ID check implemented.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Apple tried this with the EU usb c but eventually backed down

Umm, what? Apple was always going to move to USB-C. The EU regulations at most hastened that by a couple of years. Their tablets and even laptop computers were using USB-C before the EU even enacted that legislation. It was only a matter of time.

But back on the subject at hand, this is nothing like that sort of bullying. This is a company being asked to build more infrastructure at their own expense, and then use that infrastructure to place its own users at risk. They’ve made a simple calculation that it’s better for their bottom line and their reputation to choose not to comply, and instead pull out of a few small markets.

Sina ,

Adding government ID to their data would hardly be anymore of a privacy invasion

Are you listening to yourself?

IllNess ,

Lets put name to the IP address. Yup, that is the same as just the IP address that can be shared by multiple devices.

AlexanderESmith ,

heh, pulling out

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Pornhub as a monopoly??? Wow lmao. Someone never got creative with the search bar and it’s very apparent.

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