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mayo , to moviesandtv in **THE LAST VOYAGE OF THE DEMETER Discussion Megapost** 2023-08-11 🚢🦇

I swear there has been another monster on a boat slowly killing crew movie in the last 20 years but I cannot recall the name. I remember it being better than this one.

Kolanaki , to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"
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This makes it even more interesting that fire mages in Dark Souls are called “pyromancers” while regular magic users still get the moniker “mage.”

afraid_of_zombies , to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"

Also, for anyone interested, that means that the Magi who came to Jesus’ birth with gifts were Zoroastrian priests

No one was there as he didn’t exist.

ICastFist OP ,
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That’s beside the point here. The story exists and the etymology of Magus helps contextualize an often overlooked detail, that the three wise men were zoroastrian priests. Somewhat related XKCD - what-if.xkcd.com/25/

ElderWendigo ,

No one was there as he didn’t exist.

This is irrelevant to a discussion of etymology. Even if you don’t believe in the physical existence of a the man, he exists as a significant literary figure. Tom Sawyer didn’t actually exist either, but we should be able to speak about his whitewashing trickery without pedant trolls butting in. You’re not edgy. You’re not enlightened. You’re not even technically correct. You’re just an asshole.

MargotRobbie , to moviesandtv in **GRAN TURISMO Discussion Megapost** 2023-08-11 🕹🏎

This is the actual ending of the movie. I'm not even exaggerating.https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/a89e054b-14c0-4ac6-8db2-7027e7b3af87.webp(Podiuming Le Mans on the first try is an incredible achievement though.)

Kyrgizion , (edited ) to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"

Their temples similarly featured a blazing fire in the middle which was to be kept burning indefinitely. You can see some of these on Sassanid pre-islamic coinage although the quality of the strikes leaves something to be desired.

You can see some here: www.forumancientcoins.com/…/firealtar_coins.html

Marsupial ,
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This makes me wonder who the first wanker monarch was that thought up the idea of putting the side of their face on the coin.

Kyrgizion ,

That would be Alexander The Great

BraveSirZaphod , to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"
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Old Arabian speaks “majus” because they lack a hard G sound, similar to Japanese lacking L sound

This isn't quite right. We start with Old Persian (not Arabic) maguš, pronounced like mag-ush. That gets loaned into Ancient Greek as μάγος (mágos), originally referring to Zoroastrian priests and then generally to magicians, sorcerers, and tricksters in general. This gets carried over to Latin as magus (still pronounced with a 'hard' g). The plural of this form is magi, pronounced in Antiquity as mag-ee. As we enter into the Middle Ages, some sound changes happen and most Latin pronunciations soften the G, producing something like maj-ee. At some point in Middle English, the Latin -i plural ending gets replaced with the native English -es plural, producing mages . The singular mage is then derived from that. There's also undoubtedly an influence from French, where an -age ending would always be pronounced with a soft G (ie, the word age).

Looking a bit deeper, the Bible plays a big role here, as the plural of the Greek word, μάγοι (magoi) is used in the original text of Matthew 2:1. That gets translated in the Latin Vulgate as magi, and then I'd presume a Middle English gospel translation as 'mages'. The singular 'mage' then gets derived from that.

ICastFist OP ,
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We start with Old Persian (not Arabic) maguš

I didn’t try to imply that we should start with arabic, or that that is the source of the current spelling, I left that arabic bit there because of the wiki page being Majus. I did try to be clear in the title: “derives from magush, the old persian name(…)”.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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Ah, my bad there, I though you were implying that the reason why the English word has a soft G is because Arabic doesn't have a hard G sound. Those are actually independent developments. Arabic actually used to have a standard hard G sound (and in Egypt it still does!), but it shifted to the J sound at some point (wanna say vaguely Middle Ages?).

roguetrick , (edited ) to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"

Zoroastrianism is centered around the Persian language, not Arabic. Persian is a Indo European language like Sanskrit, English, Celtic, and Russian instead of Afro-Asiatic like Arabic. That's why so n many magic associated words have the same PIE root *magh- Its root concept is to have power to enforce will.

Crul , to til in TIL - "Mage" derives from Magush, the old persian name for Zoroastrian priests, which means "Fire worshipper"

See also jinn / djinn (genie) - Wikipedia

Jinn (Arabic: جن‎, jinn) – also romanized as djinn or anglicized as genies – are invisible creatures in early religion in pre-Islamic Arabia and later in Islamic culture and beliefs. Like humans, they are accountable for their deeds, can be either believers (muslims) or unbelievers (kafir); depending on whether they accept God’s guidance.

Double_A , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions
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Possibly also for suicide if you get into a situation where you would slowly suffer to death?

TheObserver ,
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I’d rather take hypoxia atleast then it not technically suicide.

riodoro1 ,

A gunshot wound to the head is also not suicide.

If however both the gunshot wound and hypoxia are self inflicted then it is suicide, regardless if you pull the trigger or open a valve.

Red_October , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

They say it was because their landing in the wilds of Siberia may require defense against wildlife. This is not true. The truth is that they have seen what resides in space, and would not venture into it’s laid unarmed.

i_am_a_cardboard_box ,

So… They watched Aliens?

elxeno , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

They were called spacial operations.

ceilingcelery , to moviesandtv in **GRAN TURISMO Discussion Megapost** 2023-08-11 🕹🏎

Saw this yesterday, felt that it was an ok film overall but was let down by the first half where they tried to cover a lot of different events. After the GT academy is over I felt the movie improved a fair bit. I was surprised at how many of the events in the film were accurate to real life events! I thought the film was exaggerating Jann’s life but seemingly not which I appreciated.

OptimusPhillip , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions
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I can’t seem to read the article, so forgive me if they answer this question, but how would a gun work in space? Most firearms I’m familiar with use oxidation reactions to propel ammunition. Were the shells filled with self-oxidizing propellant, or did they just use a completely different system?

An_Zombie ,

Fun fact! All gunpowder is self oxidizing

OptimusPhillip ,
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I guess today is a learning day for all of us! I knew gunpowder contained nitrates, but I didn’t realize that was its purpose, or that it allowed it to work in a vacuum.

general_kitten ,

basically all explosives are fuel combined with it’s own oxidizer

Cethin ,

Pretty much anything explosive need to be self oxidizing. If air can’t get in to continue to feed the burning of the material (which never can during an explosion) than the oxygen needs to come from another source.

superkret ,

Firearms generally work in space at least once.
A semi-auto probably won’t cycle correctly in zero G, and any gun will likely overheat from the first couple shots in a vacuum, but you can always get one shot out.

janAkali , (edited ) to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

allegedly was intended as a defensive weapon against in-space attacks by the US space program.

??? If it was for in-space attacks, wouldn’t it be more logical to mount a gun outside of ship 😆?

It was intended as a survival aid for emergency landings. It’s not a shotgun, but a three barrel pistol (but it can shoot both normal rounds and shells). Another interesting detail - it’s buttstock is a folding machete.

TP-87 was invented by request of A. Leonov after emergency landing of ‘Voshod-2’ where cosmonauts Leonov and Belyaev had to survive 3 days in wild taiga forest for a rescue team to retrieve them.

Agent641 ,

Love that story. Reminds me of Factorio, or Satisfactory or something.

Hadriscus ,

Satisfactorio ?

Anticorp , to til in TIL Soviet cosmonauts carried a shotgun on space missions

It could also be a handy final solution if you got trapped in space with no chance of rescue or return.

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