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harderian729 , to news in Los Angeles PD wants to remotely access 10,000 public and private security cameras

I honestly don’t see why anyone would want to be an LA cop.

It’s harder than being a cop pretty much anywhere else and everyone hates you, even the people you’re trying to protect.

I would just say the city can burn if they love crime so much, which they clearly do.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

A plastic fork, a phone, a car part: why does the LAPD keep shooting people holding harmless objects?

theguardian.com/…/los-angeles-police-jason-maccan…

harderian729 ,

What’s your point?

NaibofTabr ,

That they’re doing a poor job of “trying to protect”. They’re the threat that people need protection from.

harderian729 ,

Really? What about gangbangers?

HikingVet ,
harderian729 ,

Use your words.

HikingVet ,

Didn’t need to.

harderian729 ,

Yes you did, but that’s fine if you don’t want to.

I don’t expect you to articulate your argument because you’re not confident in it.

HikingVet ,

Here we go again, what’s your thoughts on gangs in the LAPD? Why was the comment earlier about them existing not part of the conversation? Why are gangs a concern when its not the cops?

harderian729 ,

They both can be concerns.

Gangs are the ones that justify cops’ existence, though. Without cops, gangs will just have their way with everyone like they do in Mexico and did in El Salvador.

We experimented with not having cops in CHAZ and gangs started killing people very quickly.

HikingVet ,

Okay, you are answering questions, now what about LA not being the most dangerous city makes it the worst place to be a cop? And why do the cops in LA keep shooting people with non dangerous objects in their hands? Why did you pivot from the questions about police corruption to pointing to gangs when cops are part of that problem?

harderian729 ,

Sorry, I’m done arguing with you.

It’s clear you just want to keep responding, so I’ll give you the last response.

Goodbye.

HikingVet ,

I mean, there isn’t much of a conversation if two parties don’t have a back and forth.

But hey, you like running from questions I geuss.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Did you miss the whole ‘gang members are cops’ thing in the article someone pasted to you? Weird, because they quoted a relevant sentence and you responded to it.

harderian729 ,

Gangs are the ones that justify cops’ existence, though. Without cops, gangs will just have their way with everyone like they do in Mexico and did in El Salvador.

We experimented with not having cops in CHAZ and gangs started killing people very quickly.

I’m going to block you by the way. You keep following me around and replying to all of my comments adnauseam with useless information. It’s very weird.

Goodbye.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Following you around? What?

HikingVet ,

Guy argues like a pigeon playing chess.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Especially since you can look in this thread and see that I only replied to two of their comments. I guess three including the one after they said they were blocking me.

nick ,

Fuck cops.

NaibofTabr ,

Ah yes, all the bangers down in the gangs… what will we do about the banging gangs…

frezik ,

Don’t see the problem as long as everyone consents and gets tested.

NaibofTabr ,

Wrap it up.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

The point is there’s actual deputy gangs in LA. The cops are corrupt.

In Scathing Report, Special Counsel Finds LA Sheriff Deputy Gangs Are A ‘Cancer’ On The Department

laist.com/…/special-counsel-report-la-sheriff-dep…

harderian729 ,

Yes, but what does this have to do with my comment?

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeahbut yeahbut yeahbut.

frezik ,

“Other than that, Mr R. King, how was your drive?”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Weird, because Los Angeles isn’t in this list of the 25 most dangerous cities in America.

realestate.usnews.com/…/most-dangerous-places

You must have been thinking of Memphis, Tennessee or Albuquerque, New Mexico.

LostXOR ,

Albuquerque seemed alright when I went there, though admittedly there was an eclipse going on at the time which may have influenced my opinions.

fathog ,

They don’t want to protect us bro. That’s why everyone hates the LAPD. Imagine being the victim of a crime and being laughed out of the station. Or getting robbed, and waiting 45 minutes for someone who literally doesn’t give a shit to show up.

Also, as someone pointed out, the only thing they do about gangs is form their own.

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brianorca , to news in Los Angeles PD wants to remotely access 10,000 public and private security cameras

So Ring shuts down their free access, not even two months ago, and they want to force it again somehow? Without a warrant?

Correction: this is an article from before Ring changed the policy.

Bell , to news in Los Angeles PD wants to remotely access 10,000 public and private security cameras

I read this and think: must be cheaper than setting up their own cameras at every corner

aniki , to news in Los Angeles PD wants to remotely access 10,000 public and private security cameras

LOL getting blocked by [email protected] is honor!

tsonfeir , to news in Los Angeles PD wants to remotely access 10,000 public and private security cameras
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Want to get rid of security cameras? This is how.

FlyingSquid , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know, this sounds like what they do in London.

Edit: I’m not saying that’s a good thing, I’m saying it didn’t get rid of cameras. It increased their numbers vastly.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

do they have access to private video cameras in London or are those all government cameras?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think they have access to private cameras, but why would they need them when there are government cameras literally everywhere? I don’t know if you’ve been to London, but there are cameras on virtually every light pole. There are literally tens of thousands of government surveillance cameras in the UK.

This is not an unusual sight:

https://www.diyphotography.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/traffic-cameras-scaled.jpg

If they can’t access private cameras, they will add so many public ones that they aren’t necessary. It’s a bigger problem than just access to private cameras.

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I’m not actually against public security cameras. I think London is a bit much, but hey—they caught that crime.

protist , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.

That pic’s from the Continental Club, absolutely legendary venue

MisterNeon ,
@MisterNeon@lemmy.world avatar

Is Big Top still around? I miss the clown bar.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I kept driving by this place that I thought was a bar when I lived in L.A. called Jumbo’s Clown Room. Eventually I thought I had to stop and go into a place with a name like that. Sadly, it was a strip club (which I’m not into anyway) with a stripper looking as I imagine another stripper could not possibly have looked as bored as she was.

MisterNeon ,
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We got to be talking about different places, Continental Club I went to and met Mojo was in Houston.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Oh we definitely are. That name just reminded me of it.

protist ,

Big Top Candy Shop is right across the street, but can’t say I know anything about a clown bar. And here I thought I was a true Austinite 😂

MisterNeon ,
@MisterNeon@lemmy.world avatar

Continental Club is in Houston.

protist ,

Oh the original Continental Club is in Austin, been there since the 50s. The 2nd location in Houston location opened more recently. There’s a SXSW poster on the right, so I’m going to assume this was taken in Austin

MisterNeon ,
@MisterNeon@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, I never knew that.

comador , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.
@comador@lemmy.world avatar

I cannot unsee that naked body of his streaking from his studio during commercial break across the KGB hall and into the bathroom one day in the 90s lmao.

He often did radio in the nude. Man was he a truly unique character.

Nollij , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.

For anyone that enjoyed this, Smoking Gun has been collecting contract riders like this for years. Most are the usual terms about dressing rooms, catering, and sound tech, but a few have very interesting and unusual details.

Iggy Pop’s was especially amusing, and well worth your time.

paddirn , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.

Damn, hadn’t even heard that he died, though it appears it was just a month ago (Feb. 7). I first found out about him through the game, Redneck Rampage (1997), he was on the soundtrack for it.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Never played the game or heard the soundtrack, but I thought, “I bet The Reverend Horton Heat is also on it.” I looked up the soundtrack album and yep, track 3. Mojo is track 1.

Mbourgon , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.

Saw them once, back in the 90s. Dude was amazing. Great show. “Is that all you got? They yelled louder than that at Baylor, and that’s a goddamm Christian school”. He’ll definitely be missed.

MisterNeon , to mildlyinteresting in The late Mojo Nixon had an appropriately amusing tour rider.
@MisterNeon@lemmy.world avatar

I met him once, a real fun dude. It makes me sad he isn’t missed more.

He’s drinking with Jesus now.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am so jealous! He was awesome! I didn’t even ever get to see him live, sadly.

MapleEngineer , (edited ) to news in Trump: Civil War didn't need to happen, could have been "negotiated"
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

This is one that I deal with all the time with the extreme right, the extreme left, the extreme LGBTQ…, the extreme vegans etc.

You have to negotiate!

No, we don’t. Some starting positions are so ridiculous that they leave no room for negotiation. No one is owed a negotiation. Sometimes the answer is, “No.”

EDIT: A couple of pedantic extremist apologists and a small brigade of their friends tried to shout and insult me down. They failed. They weren’t interested in a conversation, just silencing someone whose message they didn’t like. Do you know how I know this? Not a single one of them asked me to explain myself. Not a single one asked me why am extremist is an extremist.

All extremists have a pathological belief that they are somehow superior and that that superiority justified their anti-social behavior. So neo-Nazi extremists have a pathological belief that they are racially superior and that that superiority justifies harassing, intimidating, and threatening people they believe are racially inferior to leave. Vegan extremist believe that they are morally superior and that that moral superiority justifies their harassing, intimidating, and bullying restaurateurs butchers, grocers, farmers, and their customers to change their diets to comply with the extremists beliefs.

So, the (pedantic) details may be different but the underlying pathology is the same.

An extremist is an extremist. They’re all pathological assholes with grandiose delusions.

jose1324 ,

Some of those are not the same

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Extremists are extremists.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Vegan extremists are not the same as Neo-Nazi extremists.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why by they’re called different things, pedant, but an extremist is an extremist.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, and a criminal is a criminal. You are very smart.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

For example, all extremists resort to pretty insults when their attempts to derail the conversation fail. They also attempt to brigade anyone they don’t agree with into silence but downvotes on Lemmy are completely impotent and leave the extremists flailing pathetically. Extremists are extremists. They have different causes and hate different people but their behaviours are very, very similar and they are very easy to spot.

vaultdweller013 ,

No dude, this isnt the other guy flailing. You refused to explains your point and instead decided to double down and continue to not explain your point.

Saying extremists are extremists means nothing because extremism can vary from situation to situation. John Brown was certainly an extremist so were the confederates, the difference is that Brown wanted to free people from their shackles while the confederates were the ones putting them on.

Frankly speaking the other guy was making fun of your morally simplistic idea on things and had decided to just make fun of you instead.

Youre worse than the fucking retarded wheraboo who thought a king tiger was better than an Abrams, atleast he put in funnt pictures.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

More childish insults. Don’t forget the impotent downvote. That’s really the icing on the flail.

My point was that some opening positions were not worthy of negotiation. The commenter tried to derail the conversion by being pedantic about different types of extremists not being the same. I didn’t bite so he and his limp noodle brigade started downvoting and insulting me. I’m not a weak minded tool so I stayed on message and simply taunted them, as I am now doing you, for being utterly ineffective and impotent.

Be better.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Honey it’s not a brigade, you’re just wrong. It’s not pedantism, you just sound like a fool.

MapleEngineer , (edited )
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been around long enough to know that 10-12 downvotes on every comment in a dead thread with only three participants is a brigade. You can say it isn’t but that doesn’t change that it is and that anyone who looks at it can see that it is.

“The sky is red, millions of people are dying, and we can save them.”

“The sky isn’t red.”

“No, my point was millions of people are dying and we can save them.”

“But the sky isn’t red!”

That is the literal definition of pedantism.

My main point was that some starting points aren’t worth negotiating. I’m sorry that you missed that. It was apparently clear to most readers. That extremists are extremists is a minor, establishing statement and absolutely true. That anyone is arguing that instead of my main point is pedantic.

Here’s the thing…I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks. That’s why your insults are meaningless to me. You want to piss into the wind, go ahead and I’ll just keep mocking you.

I’ll be here if you want to have an actual conversation.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

You think it’s clear to most readers, yet ignore the largest evidence contrary to that and instead try to explain it away with conspiratorial thinking, interesting.

MapleEngineer ,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

I know you don’t ask the question because you didn’t actually want an answer. I answered the question anyway. I could have answered down here in this dead thread but no one would see it. Instead I answered in the original comment.

The word vomit in your last comment didn’t make any sense at all or have anything to do with anything I wrote. I’ll ignore anything that you are any of your circle jerk buddies say unless it’s an actual good faith comment free from insults and logical fallacies that materially advances the conversation.

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    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

    originalucifer , to technology in Elon Musk’s ironic bot army exposed
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    this is the funnniest thing since he was forced to buy it. accidentally outing his own bots because billioonaire cant pay his bills.

    Deceptichum ,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    What? This has nothing to do with his finances? Where did you get that from?

    The bots got outed because they all gave the ChatGPT response to not answering a topic.

    Ace0fBlades ,

    He’s attempting to make money by increasing the value of twitter to advertisers by using bots.

    The fact that the bots are poorly implemented is icing on the cake

    Windex007 ,

    The article isn’t saying that Musk is behind the bots.

    The article is making fun of him for waving his opportunity to do due diligence before the purchase and being stuck with all the bots.

    pacoo2454 ,

    Of course that’s what the article is saying.

    “Bluesky users are roasting Elon Musk for his freshly exposed blue-checked bot army of fake Xitheads.”

    “Fast forward a year and it appears Xitter, the steaming remains of Twitter, is using bots to generate Tweets and look bigger.”

    hitmyspot ,

    Adding to that, the idea of the check mark used to be to ensure you were talking to who you thought it was. Now bots are verified.

    Windex007 ,

    Is the author actually accusing the company itself of running the bots in that sentence? The more I read it the more it hurts my brain. The more times I read this article my brain just hurts more and more. They’re not even attempting to explain, let alone justify, this assertion.

    TimLovesTech ,
    @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

    It wouldn’t be the 1st platform to try and use bots to boost numbers, except it is usually in the beginning when trying to reach that critical tipping point mass that brings people organically. This would be to make the ship look less underwater to save face (and possibly stop the whole platform imploding).

    Edit - Also it very much says they believe Musk is running the bots in this sentence - “Fast forward a year and it appears Xitter, the steaming remains of Twitter, is using bots to generate Tweets and look bigger.”

    Windex007 ,

    Is their justification for that accusation simply that the bots exist?

    WhiteOakBayou ,

    This is really an important difference. Defrauding advertisers on purpose with clear intent is very different from doing do because one decided not to look. Not in effect but in how cheated the mypillow guy will feel.

    TimLovesTech ,
    @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

    Yes. Musk claimed that Twitter was full of bots, but bought Twitter anyways. He now has access to everything, and yet the bot still exist. So he either has done a 180 on the bots being bad because they are helping the platform look bigger, or he actually did squash the previous bots and has deployed bots he finds more favorable to his platform/himself. Either way it looks that he is not actively fighting the bots after having stated the platform was full of them.

    Sir_Fridge , to technology in Elon Musk’s ironic bot army exposed

    Bryce?

    deweydecibel , to technology in Elon Musk’s ironic bot army exposed

    Ironic call out of ai bots when using AI generated trash images like that.

    rickyrigatoni ,

    it’s what elon deserves though. i don’t want to see an actual picture of his ugly face.

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