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wintermute_oregon , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

The level of subscriptions has become insane

HauntedBucket ,

Wow, even a stopped clock is right twice a day I guess

Kolanaki , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
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Next up, Anti-lock brakes as a Subscription Service. ASS.

db2 , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Oh look, another reason not to buy BMW, I’ll just add it to the other 456788656752 reasons.

jonne ,

The problem is that once one manufacturer starts doing this, they’ll all do it, so you won’t even have the option of buying a new car without a subscription.

Damage ,

I’d sooner hack the car

Fisch ,
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I’m so gonna install Linux on my future car

jonne ,

If they’ll let you.

Vilian ,

It probably already runs Linux, just hack it

filcuk ,

‘What do you mean the car is missing a driver?? Im sitting right here!’

Timely_Jellyfish_2077 ,

In Lemmy, Linux is always the answer.

PerogiBoi , (edited )
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  • joenforcer ,

    What manufacturer? Name and shame.

    CarPlay I can see if there’s an ongoing cost of making sure future Apple updates don’t break compatibility, but it’s very highly unlikely that will ever be an issue.

    cordlesslamp ,

    Name and shame, please. Also, did you get notified about all the subscriptions by the dealership? If yes, why did you still decide to buy it?

    PerogiBoi ,
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  • Reverendender ,

    Did you call out the dealers on their lies?

    wreckedcarzz ,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Or just drive through the dealership’s front window and then declare “I’d like a refund, please”. A few of these occurring nationwide and they’d halt their bullshit.

    gh0stcassette ,
    @gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I’m glad my current car is a 2015 Mazda. It’s recent enough to have a touch screen and Bluetooth, but not so recent that it’s got an LTE/5G radio that can phone home and let them sell my driving data to insurance companies or force subscription payments on me. When I get my next car in a decade or so, hopefully I can import a cheap Chinese EV that’s either easy to jailbreak, or doesn’t have any of that bullshit included.

    unexposedhazard ,

    Oh look, another reason not to buy BMW CAR

    db2 ,

    Yeah I’ll just sprout wings and fly everywhere.

    unexposedhazard ,

    Please do if possible.

    Seriously tho, was it so hard to understand that i was pointing out that all big car companies are starting to do this?

    If this is a reason not to buy a BMW then its a reason not to buy any modern car. Which it is imo.

    db2 ,

    The problem is a huge number of cars were removed and destroyed which would otherwise have been in the used market. It’s a big reason why even used cars are priced so high. Buying used isn’t what it used to be.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Car_Allowance_Rebate_System

    And they want to do it again not because it helped anyone get a car but because it let them make the prices so stupidly high.

    I agree that new cars suck but they’re removing the stocks of used cars that would be worth buying at any price and at our expense.

    unexposedhazard ,

    Agree with that yep, its also already been shown years ago that modding used cars into electric cars is totally doable, economic and saves fuckloads of resources. Same thing happening with tractors too btw. Lots of farmers are buying up old tractors because they can actually repair them on site when they break down. With modern ones they have to wait for some asshole from john deer to come in with a debugging laptop to do the exact same thing for lots of money and downtime.

    wreckedcarzz ,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    a NEW car

    ftfy then

    MisterFrog , (edited )
    @MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

    While this is completely true, it’s a bit tone-deaf. Fuck cars, but many people barely have a choice because their public transport consists of a handful of busses that come once an hour and nothing is close by.

    As an aside, I spend a whopping total of about $1/day (edit Australian $, so less USD) on maintenance and electricity for my electric cargo bike. I go about 17 km each way to work and the funny thing is it’s only about 10 mins longer than driving, lol

    unexposedhazard ,

    Yeah i know many people dont really have much of a choice, see the thread nex to your comment. I was more intending to talk shit about modern cars that all seem to have this shit.

    helenslunch , (edited )
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    I was a BMW mechanic from 2009-2012. I can’t believe anyone buys them after what I’ve seen. The engines are all made of plastic and start to literally crumble to pieces and leak oil from absolutely everywhere after ~70k miles. We had to have customers sign disclosures on these cars because inevitably they would just crumble to pieces when we went in to replace one part and we’d end up having to replace others to reassemble it. Or we would pressure-test the cooling system to find a leak and end up creating several more.

    On their V8s there’s a plastic cooling tube that runs from front to back on the engine. The tube itself is like $10 but you had to disassemble the entire engine to access it so it would cost several thousand $ in labor.

    We eventually started selling an aftermarket CNC aluminum one that was threaded and expanded into the hole. We would just beat the old one out with a hammer and thread the new one in in a couple hours and they’d never have that problem again. Why BMW couldn’t think of that is beyond me. The people who did made buckets of money selling aluminum tubes for hundreds of dollars just because they could.

    You might expect cost cutting like that from a Kia or something but not from a car that’s advertised as a premium brand and sold at premium prices.

    You’re literally just paying more for less.

    db2 ,

    The Buick 3800 had a tube like that on top, it would crack from thermal stresses and piss out hot coolant. There was an aluminum aftermarket replacement like you describe but it was Dorman and a cheap fix. Buick also addressed the problem in later versions. I miss that engine.

    SreudianFlip ,

    I used to own a W124 series Benz (bought used for 5% of sticker price, I ain’t no fauntelroy). Nearly everything on it was redundant or excessively skookum.

    When systems that weren’t as rugged started going down, like the vacuum controllers for doors or the 4matic computer etc, the car still worked safely with reduced convenience. A few minor design flaws like the wiring harness but that’s it. Room to work under the hood, too.

    It was built in '93 when the engineers still ran the company.

    Current main driver is the super reliable '03 CRV.

    madcaesar ,

    BMW’s are pure over engineered garbage.

    alphacyberranger OP , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
    @alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Can’t wait to torrent my car

    RangerJosie ,

    Jailbreak it and sideload some WADs.

    BearOfaTime ,

    You joke, but I have no doubt this will be child’s play for the egg heads on the racing scene.

    BruceTwarzen ,

    You wouldn’t…

    scrubbles , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    I can’t wait until we see people flashing firmwares on BMWs. Although I wish people weren’t giving them money in the first place

    golli ,

    The issue is that I bet modifying the firmware will have consequences on insurance and liability in case of an accident. Regardless of whether or not one is at fault or not, and that it didn’t have any effect

    scrubbles ,
    @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

    we can’t track if you accelerate too quickly away from red lights anymore, so we will be unable to insure you.

    Pistcow ,

    The answer is they are. Its a BMW.

    PenguinMage ,

    If they do that will their blinkers work?

    /s sorry that joke lives in my brain

    umbrella , (edited )
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    cant wait until we start seeing locked bootloaders and enforced chain of trust bullshit on cars.

    under the excuse of safety and liability, of course. how CAN they ensure your safety if they don’t spy on your every move amirite?

    Blizzard ,

    BMW Re-Vanced

    Annoyed_Crabby ,

    PipedMW

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