I understand the frustration, but living on an island means that you are isolated. Help is on the way, I’m sure, but they have to arrive via ship. If I remember right, Oahu is the only island with a proper harbor for ships. I don’t think Maui has any type of airport either.
I understand the frustration, but living on an island means that you are isolated. Help is on the way, I’m sure, but they have to arrive via ship. If I remember right, Oahu is the only island with a proper harbor for ships. I don’t think Maui has any type of airport either.
Maui is cut off. No internet. Very sparce landlines service. No cellphones. Electricity is down. Because of that probably water too. Still have radio communications and some satellite stuff. The calvary hasn’t arrived yet. Winds at 35mph. Given all this it is not hard to understand that we don’t know the full extent yet.
Lahaina is fucked, not all of Maui. Power went down for all of Lahaina, Ka’anapali, Napili, and Kapalua on Tuesday (8/8/23) morning. All those towns are connected with a single road back to the rest of Maui, and Tuesday morning at 5a-ish, something like 30 telephone/power poles fell on that road and blocked up traffic in and out. There was a fire Tuesday morning, then the fire department said it was 100% contained in the afternoon and everyone let their guard down. Once the fire sparked back up later that night, all hell broke loose.
The rest of Maui has power and internet without issues. I didn’t even lose power or Internet at all on the other side of the island.
Crazy how thin the line is between society as usual and total melt down. Makes you really appreciate yow fragile all of this is. Growing up you think the way things are is how they've always been and always will be.
I wouldn’t talk about a meltdown of society here - this is a natural disaster, not the sacking of Rome. In due time help will arrive, people will bury the dead and rebuild. Though I agree it makes you appreciate how we take things for granted until one day they aren’t.
Climate change caused this so I don’t know that you can really call it natural. Unless you include things people do as natural (I tend to but that’s not how most people use the word.)
I always thought it was a little arrogant of us humans to assume if we created something, or cause something to happen, that it isn’t considered part of the natural world. Like, of course it is. As you said, anthills are natural, beaver dams are natural, so skyscrapers are just as natural as a bird’s nest.
…yet. looks at record breaking forest fires in Canada. Yes I know it’ll take a lot more to have a drastic impact but we’ve been neglecting our impact so it’s just a matter of time.
For anyone interested in giving aid, or who needs aid, I found this Maui disaster coordination spreadsheet shared on mastodon. There's both on-island resources and places to donate online listed.
Real question… Why is this kind of thing posted to World News? It’s a horrifying story, but it’s also one incident in one location. Me knowing about it doesn’t help me or anyone else in any way. I guess you could hope that it inspires some gun owners to better secure their firearms, but that’s about it.
This kinda one-off incidents were all over Reddit. It just exists to stoke people’s anger most of the time, but it’s also super easy to push a specific agenda by posting these horrible, local stories.
Mostly it’s a result of me cross-posting from my own community which is less strict about what I consider news and the publisher in this case BBC labeling it as world news. I get all my news from RSS.
I think it’s hilarious that anyone trusts the FBI right now. They have been actively involved in sabotaging progressive groups and socialist demonstrations basically since their inception. And now Republicans have a massice gripe because we have like a dozen agents that say they have been silenced after whistleblowing related to Jan 6th.
Not all decays are weak-based, though, and not all weak phenomina are directly related to radioactivity. That’s just the only thing a layman has heard of where it’s relevant.
The strong force only holds atoms together through a sort of trickle-down force, too, but that one feels like splitting hairs.
The person I replied to wasn’t able to name the forces beyond gravity, so I think over-simplification and reduction to specific phenomena they would have heard of is appropriate.
Oh, absolutely. I was adding on for anyone else reading who might appreciate answer gravy. Sorry if it came across as critical of what you wrote, my bad.
Well, the article currently lists them as: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force.
If you’re not familiar, you wouldn’t be able to guess that the last two are nuclear forces and in the context of a new force, that list is rather confusing.
Interesting. I never expected a fifth. If anything, I’ve seen a push for reducing the number down to three (gravity, strong and electro-weak) or possibly just two.
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