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justhach , to news in Spotify Wrapped 2023: 'Music genres are now irrelevant to fans'
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The issue is trying to use genres as specifically as possible instead of being a broad category that covers a wide range of music.

Metal is the worst for this. The vast, vast majority of people would call everything from Black Sabbath to Metallica to Pantera to Death to Behemoth “metal”, but the genre snobs need to differentiate it all for some reason.

Yet, we’re perfectly okay to call everything from Blue Oyster Cult to Fleetwood Mac to Nickleback “rock”.

FlyingSquid ,
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Worse… Buddy Holly, the Beach Boys, Jimi Hendrix, Devo, Blue Oyster Cult, Fleetwood Mac and Nickelback are all considered rock.

YoBuckStopsHere ,
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Rock just means electric guitar, electric bass, and drums with a time signature 4/4 style to songs and verses chorus form.

FlyingSquid ,
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There are even plenty of rock songs in other signatures. The Beatles had a bunch of songs that were either 3/4 or both 3/4 and 4/4.

YoBuckStopsHere ,
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The Beatles were always experimenting, something that is rare today.

A lot of amazing songs are 3/4, but it’s hard to find new music post 2000 in 3/4.

strongsounds.com/blog/popular-songs-in-3-4-time/

Tujio ,

I love metal, but maaaaan fans take subgenres too seriously. I once saw a bar fight in my very peaceful city where one guy was shouting “That’s not sludge metal! That’s stoner metal! You don’t even know what sludge metal is!”

And I find myself doing that shit, too. I was talking to a buddy a little bit ago and realized that I had just said “I’m currently listening to a German symphonic folk metal band, but the vocals are pure black metal.”

young_broccoli ,

Thats extreeme metal elitism, but you also prooved the usefulness of genres. How else, without using genres, would you describe that german band as efficiently as you did so someone like me can understand it and say:

Sounds awesome, whats their name?

Tujio ,

Ha. Thanks.

Name is Equilibrium. That description is for their first three albums. Their later albums are more power metal.

leraje ,
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I agree with your general point about metal subgenres but they do help me a bit. For example, I’ve got no disrespect towards the subgenres of nu-metal or the trve cvlt type of black metal but it’s just not for me, so if I see something tagged as that I can easily avoid it. As I say, that is in no way a diss of those genres, they’re just not to my taste.

Sodis ,

Specific genres are awesome to find new bands, that you like, because they sound similar. If I like power metal and you recommend me Behemoth, because I like metal, your suggestion has no value for me, while I probably would like another power metal band like Blind Guardian.

Lifecoach5000 , to news in Spotify Wrapped 2023: 'Music genres are now irrelevant to fans'

Maybe this is a modern thing with streaming that holds some weight - I wouldn’t really know as I don’t use the streaming services too much. I can say that as an old electronic music fan/DJ, genre and sub-genre won’t be leaving that scene anytime soon. Probably a different, unrelated conversation altogether.

SnotFlickerman , (edited ) to news in Spotify Wrapped 2023: 'Music genres are now irrelevant to fans'
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I, for one, am glad for this.

I am an older millennial who grew up around Gen X kids older than me.

All those Gen X kids were so fucking stuck up about music and would be so fucking rude and mean if you listened to the “wrong” music.

Guess what you Gen X chucklefucks, your music didn’t change the world and more than half of you grew up to be conservatives. Why the living fuck would I give a shit about your worthless fucking opinions on music?

It took me years of growing out of the brow beating about music to understand I truly do love all kinds of music and to not limit myself by genre.

Hot takes: Nirvana is overrated, nobody even remembers Stone Temple Pilots or Janes Addiction because they were fucking forgettable mid-tier trash. People whose tastes in music never grew and still only listen to what they listened to in high school probably never grew in a lot of other ways, too.

Lifecoach5000 ,

Oh hush you little baby punk. You probably liked Green Day 😝

/s

YoBuckStopsHere , to news in Spotify Wrapped 2023: 'Music genres are now irrelevant to fans'
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These days I generally only listen to Alt Rock but that is still a broad category from it’s start in the early 80s to today. Under Alt Rock falls New Wave, Punk, Post Punk, Grunge, Ska, Emo, and even College or Idie Rock.

I personally find it the most creative, expansive and enjoyable genre for music.

CthuluVoIP , to world in US Navy seizes attackers who held Israel-linked tanker

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Axis? Really? That’s the word? 🤦🏻‍♂️

mwguy OP ,

Ya Iran is literally calling themselves the Axis. They need a better marketing team.

YoBuckStopsHere , to world in US Navy seizes attackers who held Israel-linked tanker
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Everyone who has ever argued against militaries patrolling foreign waters just lost their argument. This is why.

autotldr Bot , to world in How Hamas built a force to attack Israel on 7 October

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The BBC has visually identified 10 groups, including PIJ, by their distinctive headbands and emblems training alongside Hamas during the Strong Pillar drills in footage posted on the messaging app Telegram.

Weeks before the attacks, female surveillance soldiers near the Gaza border reportedly warned of unusually high drone activity and that Hamas was training to take over observation posts with replicas of their positions.

Brigadier General Amir Avivi, a former IDF deputy commander in Gaza, told the BBC: “There was a lot of intelligence that they were doing this training - after all, the videos are public, and this was happening just hundreds of metres from the fence (with Israel).”

The mock base is on land dug several metres below ground level, so it may not have been immediately visible to any nearby Israeli patrols - but the smoke rising from the explosions surely would have been, and the IDF is known to use aerial surveillance.

BBC Verify established it was recorded some time before 25 August 2022, and was stored in a computer file titled Eagle Squadron, the name Hamas uses for its aerial division - suggesting the paragliders plan was in the works for over a year.

Hugh Lovatt, a Middle East analyst at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said Israel would have been aware of the joint training drills but “reached the wrong conclusion”, assessing they amounted to the “standard” activity of paramilitary groups in the Palestinian territories, rather than being “indicative of a looming large-scale attack”.


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autotldr Bot , to world in US Navy seizes attackers who held Israel-linked tanker

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A US Navy warship has captured armed men who seized an Israeli-linked tanker off the coast of Yemen on Sunday, US defence officials say.

US Central Command reported that two missiles were then fired towards the warship from rebel Houthi-controlled territory in the country.

Zodiac Maritime said that among the 22 crew were Russian, Vietnamese, Bulgarian, Indian, Georgian and Filipino nationals, as well as a Turkish captain.

The rebels are reported to have threatened to attack the tanker, which was carrying phosphoric acid, if it did not divert to a Yemeni port.

Five armed individuals then tried to escape on a fast boat but were chased by the USS Mason and they eventually surrendered, the statement added.

The Houthis have been locked in a prolonged civil war with Yemen’s official government - backed by Saudi Arabia - since 2014.


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autotldr Bot , to world in Kenya abortion: Women go to backstreet clinics amid legal ambiguity

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However, the 2010 constitution, combined with a wider body of law, does allow abortion when “the life or health of the mother is in danger” or when the pregnancy has resulted from rape or incest.

It was this group that led the debate to help draft the 2010 constitution, which for the first time in the country’s history provided a legal, albeit limited, avenue for abortion.

“Unsafe abortion is rampant in Kenya,” he says, arguing that poor women suffer the most as safe terminations are not available in public hospitals because of the uncertainty and lack of guidelines.

“I think it’s about time that we understand the emotional burden of not having access to family planning, not empowering the woman so that she knows that she doesn’t have to become a baby-producing machine.”

Ms Passaris says that while the 2010 constitution legalised abortion in certain circumstances, she argues that the fear around it restricts women’s access to health services, particularly for those from poorer communities.

In March 2022, Kenya’s High Court affirmed abortion as a fundamental right under the terms of constitution and ruled that arbitrary arrests were illegal, but it has done little to allay the fears of some women, like Edith.


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FlyingSquid , to world in Kenya abortion: Women go to backstreet clinics amid legal ambiguity
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Kenya and America can be illegal abortion buddies!

TransplantedSconie , to world in Russian general who ran Ukraine war fired

“Russian General Who Ran Ukraine War Fired Out Of A Cannon At Wagner Boss Plane, Killing 10 Aboard”

Fixed it for you news service.

cassetti ,

With all the news in the past 24 hours, I take it Pootin isn't too thrilled with the performance of his armed forces lately.

snooggums ,
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The murders will continue until morale improves!

electrogamerman ,

If I were him, I would stay away from windows.

VanillaGorilla ,

With the latest changes, everyone should stay away from Windows. Linux is mature enough for most workloads.

electrogamerman ,

Ah the old lemmy switcharoo

roguetrick ,

Hold my OS I'm going in

ilikecoffee ,

Hello future people!

Immersive_Matthew , to worldnews in Uttarakhand tunnel collapse: Machine repairs prolong ordeal for trapped Indians

I hope they l get out soon. Must be awful for everyone involved.

BeardedBlaze , to news in Giulia Cecchettin's killing sparks Italian reckoning over femicide
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girlfreddy OP ,

Always gotta be that one person.

athos77 ,

And I notice that he chose that most reputable of sources, The Daily Mail ....

Roundcat ,
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Username checks out.

Leviathan ,

The post is about femicide.

ExLisper ,

So if it’s not always frmicide it’s not a valid concern? Check the stats. In Spain ex husband killing his ex (and sometimes children) is a weekly occurrence. Of course there are other kinds of murders but it doesn’t mean that femicide is not an issue worth addressing.

The issue is that that proposed solutions focus exclusively on offering more protection to women when very often the source of the problem is huge disparity in power in family courts. In a divorce case women will most likely get full custody, alimony and the house so men are left with diminished income and homeless which naturally leads to anger. Yet I never heard anyone talk about it. Of course it’s not an excuse and you still you have to be a monster to kill women and kids but changing family courts is part of the solution.

And femicide is a valid concern in many countries. Check the numbers for Spain and Australia for example. Ex girlfriends killing men is rare, ex boyfriends/husbands killing women happens weekly.

Infinity187 ,

Whataboutism trash

FishFace , to technology in BBC: The woman who successfully sued the website that matched her with a paedophile explains how she forced the site to close down. 'Alice', or A.M. as she was known in court says she feels "vindic...

Next year the city park will be forced to close down after the council was sued for by a woman who was allowed to meet a paedophile in it as a child.

Children need to be taught how to not get abused by strangers offline and online. If they aren’t, it’s not the fault of the place that allowed them to meet. When I was a child I was using the internet to talk to adults and had a great time. (The adults who had to deal with my crappy attitude before I learnt some netiquette probably had a less great time…)

biHeart ,

Taught not to get abused? I think you mean “stranger danger” shit, which is taught but the way you phrased that is disturbing. It’s not a child’s job to “not get abused by ‘anyone’”. And all places in general should probably keep an eye on who comes in and out, except for niche/specialized services like vpns, warez, etc. That’s just called being responsible.

Parks and other ‘loose’ non-stores though shouldn’t be held responsible, I agree.

FishFace ,

I just wanted a phrase which encompassed “don’t go home with strangers” and “don’t send strangers photos of yourself” and all other things which either are, or lead to, abuse.

thejml ,

A very large percentage of child abuse, kidnapping and pedo issues involve the child’s own family. “Stranger Danger” isn’t the solution.

HauntedCupcake ,

In the very specific set of examples in the above posts, it’s basically only “Stranger Danger”. It’s literally about Omegle.

But I do very much agree with your point when talking in a wider context

FishFace ,

That doesn’t have any bearing on a comparison between two different types of “stranger danger”.

cannibalia ,

You kinda sound like the bad guy in monsters inc

FishFace ,

It’s been a long time since I watched it so you’ll have to enlighten me.

Nurse_Robot ,

That’s a deeply creepy take

Don’t blame the pedophiles, blame the children!

FishFace ,

Uh, since when is it the children’s fault if they aren’t taught something? I’m blaming the parents!

phx ,

You can still blame the pedophiles while also teaching kids safe internet etiquette so that they don’t fall prey to one.

Teaching somebody how to avoid being a victim in addition to punishing offenders is a good take

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  • FishFace ,

    Why does Omegle being privately owned matter? Does a city council have less responsibility than a private business to prevent harm? Do your parks have security patrolling them? I’ve never seen that. Was Omegle “full” of perverts, or were there are a handful in comparison to the many ordinary users, but our attention naturally focuses on the aberrant cases?

    “club” implies membership, which Omegle didn’t have, which is the whole issue, and why I went with a park which anyone can enter without registering, not a club.

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  • FishFace ,

    Hmm yes, making sure that parents (or someone else) knows what children are doing online is a good idea…

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  • FishFace ,

    You drew a distinction between a park and children doing stuff online (on certain websites) by saying that in a park, everyone can see everyone else (which is not true - there are usually secluded spots in parks). This is no distinction at all if a child’s parents knows what they are doing online.

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  • FishFace ,

    You’re still replying, mate.

    That, in spite of the fact that you seem to have run out of arguments? So replying without contributing… and you’re calling me obsessed. k!

    Haha ,

    There are days like these where I’m glad it’s not morons like you who run things because the world would genuinely be an even shittier place with takes like these. Mental gymnastics to blaming children for being abused.

    FishFace ,

    Children need to be taught

    That does not place the blame on the children.

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
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    You forget that children can be easily manipulated as their brains are literally not capable of proper judgement in most situations

    FishFace ,

    Mm, I guess that’s why the park needs to be shut/we can never let children go there unattended.

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  • FishFace ,

    You haven’t said why it matters it was privately run.

    It matters that it had private rooms, but there tend to be private areas in public spaces like parks too. The analogy actually works much better if the kid’s computer is in a public place and they don’t have unrestricted access to the internet through a phone - obviously in either case it’s harder to abuse someone in secret if you have to take the initial risk of meeting somewhere you could be spotted, and only then move it private.

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  • FishFace ,

    He did take action to stop it - he aided in multiple prosecutions. What he didn’t do was turn the site into something completely different, with mandatory registration.

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  • FishFace ,

    How does that contradict what I said, or else what point are you trying to make?

    Even though you’re quite sure the site owner needed to do more to stop paedophiles, you haven’t said what. Is what you think he should have done to have sacrificed anonymity?

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  • FishFace ,

    Statement by Leif K-Brooks:

    Omegle’s moderation even had a positive impact beyond the site. Omegle worked with law enforcement agencies, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, to help put evildoers in prison where they belong. There are “people” rotting behind bars right now thanks in part to evidence that Omegle proactively collected against them, and tipped the authorities off to.

    Example article: guelphmercury.com/…/article_7b1fca76-cef1-56e5-a9…

    The NCMEC received information from Omegle about the activities of a paedophile and it led to their conviction.

    But your quote is not the opposite of my claim. It says that “the site has been mentioned in more than 50 cases against paedophiles.” How many of those cases included evidence collected and submitted by Omegle?

    Do please answer my question:

    Even though you’re quite sure the site owner needed to do more to stop paedophiles, you haven’t said what. Is what you think he should have done to have sacrificed anonymity?

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  • FishFace ,

    FWIW, LWD’s ability to click “reply” outran his ability fill those replies with meaningful words, and instead of admitting they can’t back up their opinion they’re resorting to insults and insinuation.

    Augustiner , to news in Giulia Cecchettin's killing sparks Italian reckoning over femicide

    Why is this downvoted so heavily? The article is pointing out some valid issues.

    One point I wish they would talk about tho is that a lot of this patriarchal sentiment stems from the fact that about 80% of Italians are Catholics. It’s gotten better but the church is still propagating a lot of these conservative ideas on women’s issues.

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