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PropaGandalf , to fediverse in ActivityPods 1.5 release

Yes letsgoo!

synae , to fediverse in ActivityPods 1.5 release
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I set up a SOLID server last weekend because of a previous post about activitypods I and have no idea what to do with it. I skimmed some of the docs, blog posts, etc but found it a bit obtuse due to my inexperience in the related subject matter.

So, I’m curious if anyone has a link to a simple explainer on Activitypods, SOLID, and the implications on the fediverse as a whole?

deadsuperhero ,

ActivityPods can be thought of as a framework for building Fediverse apps on top of Solid. Solid itself is a standard developed by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, and once you get through the dry, somewhat brain-melting standards draft, what you get is something that strongly resembles a self-hostable Google Drive.

What makes this unique is that you can make apps that access resources (files) inside of this drive. Even more interesting is that Solid apps don’t rely on traditional databases in the way that regular Fediverse apps do: instead, the apps use files and metadata about those files, and basically parse information from a graph to act as a sort of rudimentary database instead.

What ActivityPods does is bridge the gap: it does all the heavy lifting to translate between Solid’s way of doing things (everything is a file) to ActivityPub’s way of doing things (everything is an activity performed on objects by actors, who have an inbox and outbox).

Why might someone want this? Well, the general idea is that this is a different approach to data ownership, where the data itself is portable as a file. Your Solid Pod acts as an identity provider that proves who you are, as well as a data store where you can decide who has access to read or modify your stuff.

damon OP ,

Your response on ActivityPods and Solid – pretty spot on! I will toss in a couple more nuggets. Solid’s kinda like having your own Google Drive, but you call the shots on who peeks into your stuff. It’s all about files and folders. Sure, Solid uses RDF for the geeky metadata part, but at its heart, it’s all about files. With ActivityPods, Instead of just playing with files, it uses something called an RDF Triple Store. Think of it as a smart way to store data that’s all about connections and relationships. This means ActivityPods is more about mapping out how data is connected, like a big web of info, rather than just storing files. Super handy for social apps where who knows who, and who does what matters a lot. Like Solid, ActivityPods is big on you owning your data. But it’s not just sitting in a digital drawer. It’s active, social, and part of a bigger community. The author of ActivityPods has a very similar view of the social web compared to Evan P.

dameoutlaw ,
@dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml avatar

Would love to speak with you. Are you on Matrix? Discord?

synae ,
@synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hi, sorry, I’ve been away from the computer which is logged in with this account. I do have discord. I feel like I got a good explanation from the other commenter, but if you have more you’d like to discuss, please DM me and I’ll share my discord info (or if there is a particular public one I should join, let me know).

dameoutlaw ,
@dameoutlaw@lemmy.ml avatar

Done.

haui_lemmy , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?

The first misinformation starts very early. Telling users they need accounts on different services to post stuff. Thats obviously false. You can post photos and videos on every service you‘re subscribed to. I stopped reading after this obvious bs.

damon OP ,

Please do not come up here with your trumpian false news. Is that what was said? Show explicitly where that is stated You can’t just have one across to have full functionality across the Fediverse and if you insinuate that YOU are a deceiver and people should steer clear of you.

SuperIce ,

" What is the main shortcoming of ActivityPub ?

ActivityPub wants to make it possible to create decentralized apps. But to post videos, you need an account on a PeerTube instance. And to post images, you need an account on a PixelFed instance. You must thus handle multiple accounts, with their profile, list of followers, etc."

damon OP ,

Okay, that’s fair. I will point that out to the developer as English is not their primary language. But, you can read the very next paragraph in how does ActivityPods solve this to understand the context.

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Wow. Chill buddy.

damon OP ,

Maybe I needed to chill but I get sick of people just making statements without rereading, asking to understand, using proper context. It’s annoying.

haui_lemmy ,

You need help.

Here‘s the exact passage.

ActivityPub wants to make it possible to create decentralized apps. But to post videos, you need an account on a PeerTube instance. And to post images, you need an account on a PixelFed instance.

You sad person.

originalucifer , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?
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icky

damon OP ,

How is a user owning their data icky?

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

: Getting started is as simple as signing up for a Memory account.

icky. no thanks.

muntedcrocodile , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

Is it foss and can i host my own instance if not its obviously an atfempts to centralise and monopolise the fediverse and im not interested in that.

damon OP ,

It is Foss. Where is it mentioning monopolising the Fediverse? Having instances is a form of centralisation. People should not have to self host to not be tethered to an instance. Like how does what you said even make sense compared to the realities of right now?

RandomVideos ,

Compared being tethered to multiple instances(one for each account), being tethered to one centralized instance is less of a form of centralization?

damon OP ,

Who said one instance? It’s a pod store by a pod provider, which there will be multiple pod providers. Please go research Solid. Even in the scenario of multiple accounts in multiple instances you don’t own nor control your data. With Solid you get to determine what access and how much access a provider & service has

aldalire , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?

the website UI looks too good. Must be a scam. 🧐

Octopus1348 ,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Why does a good UI connect to scams?

aldalire ,

Most crypto coin websites promoting their shit have sleek AF ui’s. Maybe it’s just a matter of where your priorities lie; making the actual open source product, or promoting it on a website? And most small teams that actually make useful shit would probably just have a GitHub readme or at most a wiki. With some exceptions. But at least for me philosophically, a sleek website ui promoting a project does not equal the quality of the project

sir_reginald ,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

or you can just take a template, replace the placeholder text and images with your own and you’re done.

most websites don’t come up with their own design, even less scammers. it would be a waste of time

damon OP ,

Haha no scam

aldalire ,

Sounds something like a scammer would say 🧐 jk

warmaster , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?

How does ActivityPods differ from using one fediverse account to post on other fediapps?

I believe this project is interesting but ignoring this question is raising eyebrows.

rsolva , to fediverse in What is ActivityPods framework?
@rsolva@lemmy.world avatar

This looks great! Solid Pods is Tim Berners-Lee’s attempt at solving selfhosting and decentralization, but it has struggled to gain traction. Connecting it to the fediverse is a very good move.

damon OP ,

I think so too!

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