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Everyone should read When serfs stood up in Tibet by Anna Louise Strong

www.marxists.org/reference/archive/…/ch17.htm

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I think good news here is the legal precedent this sets for suing corporations for crimes against humanity.

yogthos OP ,
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Maybe just don’t fund and train extremists around the world in the first place.

yogthos ,
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Russia already stated that they will do precisely that, so this moves us one step closer to a nuclear holocaust. Hope it was worth it.

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Pretty much none of those were actually stated by Russia. The trend has been that it’s the west that make up these red lines, then crosses them and says, see nothing happened. Last I checked, the actual red line Russia set out was Ukraine joining NATO, and when that red line was ignored the war started. This notion that you can just keep pushing a nuclear superpower and nothing bad will happen is imbecilic beyond belief.

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Here’s what Russia actually stated as explained by the chief of NATO

The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.

www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

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If you bother reading the sources, then you’ll see that these aren’t primary sources of anything the Russian government said. These are articles and interpretations by western analysts and think tanks. Feel free to link statements from the Russian government though.

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Where, please provide an ofgicial statement from Russia saying that.

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Again, provide primary sources for your claims.

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This is the most unhinged thing I’ve read in a while. Also, what degradation are you talking about?

Pretty much every western news source now admits that Russia is stronger than at the start of the war, and that it’s massively outpacing the west in terms of weapons production.

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Do you understand the concept of a primary source?

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These are reminders that Russia is a nuclear superpower, and that continued escalation can lead to a direct war between west and Russia which will almost certainly be nuclear.

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here are just a few recent ones

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almost like you’re projecting

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then feel free to provide some

yogthos ,
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So, just to sum up. Russia is producing more weapons ammunition than NATO, has a bigger army than before the war that’s actually seen real combat unlike any NATO army, and Russian economy is growing. You wrote a whole giant rant that doesn’t actually contradict anything I said or what the sources I linked say.

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You’re projecting your own interpretation onto a statement that doesn’t say what you claim it says. Hope that clears things up for you.

yogthos ,
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You did not provide any primary sources, so evidently you don’t understand what a primary source is. Good chat.

yogthos ,
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I’m not the one making the claim. I’m saying that I have not seen any official Russian statement to this effect. However, if you have a source for one then please show it.

See this does not work the way you think it does.

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If you don’t understand how this fits, then you really should work on your reading comprehension

When someone unconsciously attributes their thoughts, feelings, or behaviors to another person, they are projecting.

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Enjoy living in your fantasy world while you can is all I can say. Oh and here’s another source you can ignore. It’s just the opinion of a US general, I’m sure you have a far better grasp on what’s happening businessinsider.com/russias-army-15-percent-large…

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I said that you failed to provide primary sources to support your claims.

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still waiting for that official statement bud, should be really easy to find since you obviously wouldn’t make things up

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It’s a recent source that very plainly states that Russian military is bigger than it was before the war started. Since you’re saying it says what I already shared, you finally admit to having been lying earlier. Thank you for your honesty.

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Again, feel free to link to the part of the parade where Putin says what you two are claiming he said. Should be really easy to do since it’s publicly available.

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I’m suggesting that when you say Russian red lines have been crossed without consequences, you need to provide primary sources from Russia regarding what Russian red lines are. I see this is a very difficult concept for you to grasp.

Of course, one can challenge sources (of any type) but that does usully require some type of argument for why the source is incorrect, and not just because you don’t like it.

The source is incorrect because the red lines claimed in the source haven’t actually been articulated by Russia, and none of the links in your source actually trace back to statements from Russia. So, claiming Russian red lines have been crossed when there is zero actual evidence these were Russian red lines is nonsensical.

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I’m expecting there are going to be a lot of really angry investors when they realize Russia isn’t going to honor any of that.

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LMAO, China can just blockade the province and the economy there would crash overnight.

The only real metric to determine whether Taiwan is part of China is to ask the people who live there. And guess what, this is what they say:

Yeah, I agree, especially after all the NED sponsored propagandists are kicked out. Meanwhile, even despite US having a massive presence in Taiwanese media, the only reason DPP got in power was using first past the post mechanic.

Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo:

https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/upload/44/doc/6963/Tondu202312.jpg

esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

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Tell me you have no idea how the UN works without explicitly saying so. A majority of countries not recognizing Taiwan doesn’t mean it’s “international law” that Taiwan isn’t independent.

I think you just told us that about yourself.

LMAO this is such a cope.

Proceeds to write a bunch of cope. 😂

. They know if they tried full-out war against the US or its allies (Taiwan), the US navy would cut off their international trade and turn their country upside down – it’s why they’re trying so hard (and failing) to seize full control of the South China Sea.

You losers can’t even prop up Ukraine against Russia, and think you can take on China. The sheer delusion here. Burgerland economy would collapse overnight. Go check where all your shit comes from sometime. 😂

Again, absolute cope.

read and weep ignoramus thehill.com/…/4657439-china-doesnt-need-to-invade…

It’s incredible how you have trouble grasping the situation and think China is going to “peacefully” absorb Taiwan when Taiwan is farther from China than ever in terms of national identity and international participation.

You’re like the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo, and very few people want independence, but do go on child esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

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the angry wasp nest has spoken

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Do you honestly think a military blockade is the way to get people on the side of your cause?

I don’t think that at all, and that’s why China hasn’t resorted to this option.

“After all the people I disagree with are got rid of” Do you honestly think that makes you the good guy? Removing political opponents is the methodology of authoritarians.

Entire books have been written explaining in great detail how media is used to manipulate public opinion, and here you are bleating about AuThoRiTarIanS. 🤡

You claim international law on one hand as if it means something and then threaten with the big stick with the other.

Not sure what the contradiction in your mind is of a country enforcing its laws within its borders. You’ll have to enlighten us on this fascinating political theory of yours.

Put simply, you’re an asshole.

Put simply, you’re a cheap propagandist without a shred of intellectual honesty.

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Remind me how long that “10-day special operation” is taking again?

Yes, let me remind you that it’s now publicly known that Ukraine was about to make a peace deal within the first couple months. Then the west tanked that deal, and started pumping weapons into Ukraine.

Seriously, how can the “2nd best military in the world” falter so hard against their tiny neighbour with 1/4 of the population just because they got weapon donations from other countries? It shouldn’t be that hard to counter right, I mean Russian military technology is allegedly so advanced and totally not stuck in the 80s. I would understand if it were half-way across the globe or something, but they’re LITERALLY ON THEIR DOORSTEP. It’s also concerning that China has repeatedly failed Russia when it comes to Ukraine and has caved into international pressure quite a few times, maybe it’s because China also realizes that the war is completely embarrassing Russia?

Wow that’s a fascinating assessment of the situation. Let’s see how it compares with what people with an actual clue have to say rusi.org/…/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-wa…

The US navy has a larger airforce than the entire Chinese airforce

Last I checked US lost every one of their war games, but keep going kiddo.

Damn, an opinion piece news article. Guess that destroys the entire American military and truly shows that China numba one.

Maybe you should read up what the American military has to say before making a clown of yourself

asiatimes.com/…/war-game-china-hypersonics-sink-u…

I literally said that exact same thing in my original comment, it goes against your point lmao.

LMFAO you claimed that people in Taiwan want independence, where actual polling shows that practically nobody wants it. 🤡

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I’m not American nor have any loyalty to the Western hegemony. I’m an anarchist living in a country with its own independence movement attempting to get out from the boot of colonialism.

Anarchists are just edgy liberals, thanks for confirming that once again in this thread.

When you’re finished your work for the day propagandising, I hope you go home and think on your morality. Think on who you are as a person. Is defending Chinese bullying, violence, and threat really the best thing you can be doing with your life?

Hope you’ll take your own advice, but we both know you won’t. Clearly defending US colonialism is how you choose to spend your life. Peak anarchism right there.

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Last I checked, China hasn’t been at war since the 70s, and allocates a tiny fraction of the resources that US allocates to military spending. If you don’t understand why China needs to be able to defend itself against a rabid empire that constantly invades countries, then it’s pretty clear who the actual clown here is. This is what China’s military protects:

Household savings hit major highs across China www.chinadailyhk.com/hk/article/315229

90% of families in the country own their home, giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. forbes.com/…/how-people-in-china-afford-their-out…

Chinese workers enjoy basic form of the democratic corporate governance system via assemblies of employee representatives. taylorwessing.com/…/employees-participation-in-co…

The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. www.nber.org/system/files/…/w23119.pdf

From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) semanticscholar.org/…/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b…

From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2…

By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. www.nytimes.com/…/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html

Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8SvK0E5dI

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I can’t see it being an actual war in a traditional sense. I would imagine it more like civil unrest, perhaps along the lines of the Rwandan civil war where armed right wing militias are going to start roaming around murdering people. It’s possible this could lead to Balkanization of US too.

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yeah, it’s basically capitalist realism

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