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Iran launches drone attack against Israel as Biden rushes to White House (www.theguardian.com)

Iran said it launched dozens of drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel on Saturday in a major attack following days of acute tension building up in the region and warnings from the US and elsewhere about a wider conflict erupting....

theotherverion ,

You cannot say it started with the embassy. Fucks like Hezbollah and Hamas were shooting rockets into israel for a looong time and israel has been doing the same.

theotherverion ,

That does not mean he was right. If Osama says something, it does not automatically mean he is correct.

If Osama came and said white people were the reason of 9/11, would you just go ahead and kill white people, so Osama is happy? Should you just sacrifice anything to make a terrorist happy?

theotherverion ,

What’s the good faith about Osama?

theotherverion ,

I refuse to accept the bullshit you spread.

theotherverion ,

I believe in facts and statements that make logical sense.

theotherverion ,

Making a terrorist attack because you are unhappy with which states exist 50 years after the UN decision cannot be tolerated.

Also, saying that “land is ours” and thinking that nothing can ever change it is wrong.

theotherverion ,

For example, it embraces Sharia law and criticizes US for not embracing sharia law.

Also it accuses Jews of controlling the USA’s policies and economy.

theotherverion ,

Seeing the world from Islamic lens, believing other states should adopt this bullshit system, being anti-semitic, and disagreement with supporting Israel does not give you rights to start a terrorist attack.

theotherverion , (edited )

“7th Of october was not a terrorist attack” I think the discussion is no longer needed when you call terrorism completely valid.

Edit: Also it’s quite sad how you call zionism anti-semitic and then using quotation marks when talking about Israel’s civilian infrastructure

theotherverion ,

I don’t see why my comments should be removed. I am making sure not to spread offensive content.

Regarding your posts: Whilst I disagree pretty much with everything you said, I don’t think your comments should have been deleted.

theotherverion , (edited )

Sorry, I am just amazed how can someone say this kind of bullshit.

In addition, when you have no real argument (or in fact: no real argument exists), you just calling everything else Israeli propaganda. Well done.

theotherverion ,

This would be a nice story apart from the fact there was never a palestinian country. I don’t know how you can want a country back if you never had one.

theotherverion ,

Yes, both were about to be created.

theotherverion ,

Hungarian president? Are you serious?

theotherverion ,

Please take a moment to appreciate “My uterus > your god”

theotherverion ,

How is iran attacked?

theotherverion ,

Death penalty should not exist.

theotherverion ,

Meanwhile in 2 years: “Chechnya cuts tops of certain mountains and adds the rocks to another. Some are too high whilst others too low.”

Israeli troops shoot and kill a Palestinian shepherd reading the Quran on his land (www.haaretz.com)

Three soldiers pounce on a shepherd sitting outside his sheep pen. They knock him over and then one of them shoots him to death at point-blank range. Fakher Jaber, a father of four, was suspected of involvement in an incident that probably never happened...

theotherverion ,

Not really

theotherverion ,

That’s still far less than holocaust.

theotherverion ,

Yes, it’s the intent, hence why it’s tough to prov.

theotherverion ,

Not really

theotherverion ,

This reply made me laugh, it’s quite funny actually.

theotherverion ,

Correct decision by spain

José Andrés Says Israel Targeted World Central Kitchen Workers 'Systematically' (www.rollingstone.com)

World Central Kitchen founder José Andrés said in an interview with Reuters on Wednesday that the seven World Central Kitchen workers who were killed by an Israeli strike while delivering aid Gaza earlier this week were targeted “systematically, car by car.”...

theotherverion ,

The vehicles were marked. There is no way this was an accident.

theotherverion ,

Killing as many as possible is very untrue. If the aim was to kill everyone, the conflict would have been over within a week and 2 million people would be dead.

Israel has tolerances how many civilians can be killed for one Hamas member. Issue is that I don’t believe that 100 lives are worth for a single unimportant terrorist. That’s worth condemning.

Also, targeting homes should be the last resort if nothing else is possible. Not the first option. This is worth condemning, as well.

theotherverion ,

Rather it seems to me they don’t really care. They just want to get the job done while testing how far can they go. And they know they can go very far because otherwise west would lose a close ally in mideast.

And it’s quite sad because despite the fact that Israel has the right to defend itself, it should not have a right to do what it is currently doing.

theotherverion ,

Israel has the right to defend itself like every country. It does not occupy Palestinian territories, just undisputed ones (which is also illegal). In terms of Gaza, they withdrew in 2005.

So whilst starting the war against Hamas was fully understandable, it has to be done in accordance with the international law. And Israel fails to do that.

theotherverion ,

No, they left Gaza in 2005.

There are 0 Israelis in Gaza. The only thing Gaza can defend against is Hamas.

theotherverion ,

It’s pretty understandable that there is a fence. Also, Israel does not have all borders and even allows millions of dollars to get in.

theotherverion ,

Have you ever been to a concentration camp?

theotherverion ,

I have visited several ones - Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sereď (work camp). If you visited one, you would know the comparison is absurd.

theotherverion ,

I learnt a lot, for example, I know how a concentration camps look and don’t draw comparisons between incomparable.

theotherverion ,

Ad hominem is usually used when someone lacks a factual argument, so they just attack the person.

theotherverion ,

It’s horrible but it’s still far from a concentration camp.

theotherverion ,

Compare size of Gaza to the size of a concentration camp.

Edit: The number of people killed is also not the best metric because it does not take into consideration the brutality.

theotherverion ,

Not at all. Is israel: a) changing people’s eye color by injecting a needle to their eyes? b) stitching together twins? c) using hungry dogs to eat people while alive? d) doing useless surgeries on healthy people without anesthesia?

theotherverion ,

Yes, so it’s not comparable.

theotherverion ,

Yes, evidence that is by far not as brutal.

theotherverion ,

It doesn’t have a concentration camp and it has right to defend.

theotherverion ,

Israel cannot blockade whole Gaza as there is a border with egypt. Also, Israel allows a lot of money into gaza.

theotherverion ,

It’s funny how much would be some capable to sacrifice just to make sure Israel does not exist.

Luckily we don’t have many of those in the leadership functions.

theotherverion ,

Iran has no responsibility in Russia’s attack, same for USA.

However, Iran has control over many similar groups such as ISIS that are extremely dangerous.

theotherverion ,

And all backed by Iran

theotherverion , (edited )

One of their proxies started this escalation. Don’t think that they would just calmly sit if Israel was not there.

Edit: And I regret you a bit that you have more sympathy for terrorists than governments.

theotherverion ,

And that’s a correct decision made by ICJ.

theotherverion ,

That’s up to ICJ to decide. You cannot really predict that.

US pushes alternatives to Rafah invasion in Hamas war talks with Israel (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Top American and Israeli officials held virtual talks Monday as the U.S. pushed alternatives to the ground assault against Hamas under consideration by Israelis in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, a move the U.S. opposes on humanitarian grounds and that has frayed relations between the two allies....

theotherverion ,

Okay

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