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sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

Both the student loans and the ACA were actively gutted by Republicans

So regime won... again. Are you making my point for me here lol

You want student loan forgiveness?

I did not say this.

You want single-payer or socialized medicine?

We had Dem President and both houses... we got ACA... "just vote for my guy this one more time, i spear we will get healthcare" Like how many times do plebs have to this trick?

You are missing my point: you are only hurting yourself and your goals with that strategy.

That is your opinion. I got mine. People can make up their minds for themselves, which is the entire point of this discussion.

Voting third party only helps Republicans and isn't seen as any kind of protest by anyone who matters.

I said I don't care about either party. I care do care to deny them my vote.

but only one party is closer to your goals

Historical records and current trends say the opposite.

Bottom line: the REGIME IS NOT THE ANSWER, the sooner people figure this out, the quicker we can move forward.

Entire point of voting for either party is to keep the status quo. Reform within this election framework is impossible. ONLY other alternative if violence but everybody but brain dead trump voters know this is a bad idea for peasants. We will get killed by volumes.

The only alternative left is to DENY ENGAGEMENT.

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

Well depending on what your goals are... any 3p is a fuck you to the two party regime.

Voting for either is a vote FOR THE REGIME.

That's my 2 cents on the issue.

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

I'm saying that voting Democrat so they have enough control to get these bills passed will let them complete the course they are already on so that you can get what you want.

After student loan reforms and ACA, which both costs me money directly and solved absolutely nothing, I am done with Democrat's reforms... or Republican for that matter.

I think you are literally missing the key piece from my analysis... we are living under a two-party regime voting for either party is voting for the status quo.

You counter: IF YOU JUST VOTE FOR MY GUY ONE MORE TIME, WE MIGHT GET VOTING REFORM.

Bruhh... i am past this point. I think other people are getting close too.

We can't keep voting these clowns and expect different results.

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

just write him in a "Cheeto" ;)

aka vote 3p

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

that sysadmin cash can turn into wife changing money.... how bad can status quo be?!

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

And what happens in the mean time?

The same thing that has been happening since at least the 80s. Quality of life will continue to slowly degrade, less natural child birth, more immigration, more work, less pay, higher taxes.

Your comment hinges on the idea that "if we just vote for democrats this one more time, they will finally reverted the course"

I don't believe this position. I know most people still do. Hence why this is will be a generational change as more and more people become disenfranchised they will stop voting for either party. We are already partially here but the regime got away because nobody cares about low voter turn outs.

I am shilling fuck NOT VOTING, VOTE AGAINST THESE PARASITES.

If you are a dedicated Democrat, then vote Democrat. That's how voting works, everybody gets a their vote and they can do with it as they please.

I don't understand how "I am taking away votes from Democrats"

Why would I care? These people are not my friend, family or "team"

Together with Republicans, the Democrats are the regime the elites use to oppress working people. Why would I engage with a bad faith actor?

sunzu2 , to pcgaming in Nvidia CEO: "We can't do computer graphics anymore without artificial intelligence"

Maybe gamers should star withholding money... that's the most effective way to regulate these clowns. Deny them profit unless their product/service DESERVES to be rewarded.

Remember every time you give a shiti company money, you are feeding your enemy. They turn around and use this money to enslave you as worker AND customer.

Last 15 years clearly painted a picture of who and what we are dealing with... don't collaborator with the corpo oppressor. something about six foot pole...

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

I stated my position on this issue all over this thread.

But for you here again dear:

This tactic will only work if peasants are able to upset the regime sufficiently. a constant 3-5 percent every election, they will have to take notice. double digits they will have to start planning around it.

This is a generational tactic, it will take several cycles to get the message across IF AND ONLY IF we can get 2-10% of voters of to go third choice every single election across all elections.

This is a guerilla, asymmetric tactic. No doubt about it.

But it very low cost from personal perspective but can be easily scaled if public sentiment turns.

Once, we got the regime asking questions we can start getting proper 3p candidates in places. Or people can start now on them... but everybody can start denying the regime legitimacy today.

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

Vote for my guy OR ELSE!

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

Hey bro... just for vote my guy tho, trust me bro. You are not a bigot, is u?

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

rheee!!!!

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

You're just another bandwagon status-quo hater.

Based on the spazzing around this here thread... clearly not

sunzu2 , to showerthoughts in Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

Say hello to the camps.

is the new DNC FUD we get for voting third party?

yes please put me into fema camp staffed by obama death panel, my DNC komissar 🤡

sunzu2 , to technology in Shein is officially the biggest polluter in fast fashion. AI is making things worse.

People had clothing before plastic and based on how much clothing people by per capita, they could reduce... But god forbid they make decisions like that 🤡

sunzu2 , to greentext in Anon is an example

4chan vibe along with the play on wording is the joke here

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