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hoodatninja ,
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Lemmy doesn’t but Kbin does.

hoodatninja ,
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Kbin has “reputation” unfortunately. I like Kbin enough to ignore it and I’m hoping others will do the same.

hoodatninja ,
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Are you using a third party app?

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While I agree unpopular opinions often get shouted down, i think people often forget that sometimes what they consider an “unpopular opinion” is unpopular because it’s abhorrent or just wrong lol. Not every comment/idea is valid and deserves to be entertained.

Being anti-vax is unpopular in a lot of circles and I am perfectly happy with seeing those comments downvoted/ removed and the users banned.

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Why are you changing the parameters of my example lol

hoodatninja ,
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I understand what you’re trying to do, but I am not interested in playing this game.

On a sidenote: I saw Oppenheimer recently as well, but let’s not shoehorn quantum physics into a discussion to make your point seem more elevated than it is.

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Yeah, I found people always made a bigger deal out of that than it really was. I think folks just assume other people are having trouble even though they didn’t personally.

hoodatninja ,
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I love how in these examples it’s always “for no reason“ and yet we never see the context.

hoodatninja ,
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Sorry I’m having a little trouble following. Are you asking me or are you stating that?

hoodatninja ,
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I was just trying to understand how you wanted me to respond to that comment, nothing nefarious or anything. You had a “why“ statement with no ? then a statement after, so I was just trying to make sure I was understanding you correctly and respond appropriately and such. Just your typical “lost in translation“ with text formats.

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I think you are envisioning something a little more intentional/thought out than it is. We do this socially all the time. You gauge the audience and you adjust what you’re going to say to better fit it. Or to upset them if you’re trolling but that tends to be more deliberate.

I bet if you took your comments from a hobby sub/forum/group/etc. you frequent, and then one from a meme community, you will find your tone and rhetoric are very different. And again this is not a bad thing! You are doing and saying what is appropriate for the context. It is very natural to do. But the point is you probably don’t sit down and calculate your exact wording. We just sort of do it, and our goal is generally to “fit in“ or get some affirmation from the community we are participating in.

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I don’t think I really need to tell y’all that megathreads are, as a general rule, worthless. The only way they are even moderately useful is if they are recurring, such as a weekly megathread for beginner questions on a technical/hobbyist sub. A static, one time megathread means that no one will ever talk about it at all. That is not the right call.

Anybody who has been a mod for more than a week knows that a megathread only stifles discussion unless it’s some major event happening in real time, such as Jan 6th. I get you don’t want musk spam but you’re over correcting.

hoodatninja ,
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My guess is some of them simply don’t like people saying bad things about musk and just want to stifle discussion.

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Y’all have functionally banned all news related to Elon musk, Twitter, Tesla, and SpaceX.

hoodatninja ,
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So despite the fact that a ton of current tech news revolves around Elon musk and his companies, the solution is to bury any and all discussion about him in a megathread we all know people will never read or comment on?

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Well it depends on your goals with the platform. If you want a one stop shop to get all the necessary information in an efficient time then megathreads are great.

Nobody on Reddit, Lemmy, etc. behaves that way. Nobody checks megathreads unless it’s an ongoing, high profile situation. I guarantee you this megathread is going to get essentially no engagement within 48 hours and now for some odd reason all news about SpaceX, Twitter, and Tesla is functionally banned.

hoodatninja ,
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I get that but all this solution does is effectively ban any discussions of Musk, Tesla, SpaceX, or Twitter.

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So the solution is to all but ban any discussion of him or his companies, all of which are pretty important topics, particularly in US tech news?

I can't stand the dude, he's garbage. I wish he'd fade out of the limelight and let smart people take his companies forward. But to functionally ban any discussions because he's too present is a big over-correction.

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News about the companies that don’t involve him are still allowed outside the thread.

That is not entirely correct.

so we’ve decided to create a general Megathread for all things related to Elon Musk and X/Twitter.

This thread will be a general Musk catch-all, so we’re including news about Musk acting the fool as related to any of his companies (SpaceX, Tesla, Boring).

So 1) ALL things X/Twitter/Musk, 2) you can only talk about his other companies if it doesn't involve him (which are the vast majority of stories about his companies).

This is functionally banning Musk and his companies from being discussed. No one will check the megathread. We both know this.

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hoodatninja ,
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Whether you do or don't, it's a flagrant attempt to end the topics without owning up to it. It's window dressing.

hoodatninja ,
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Within 5 days the megathread will have 1 to 0 comments a day. And that's a generous estimate. You know this.

hoodatninja ,
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I hope you can appreciate and understand that the decision was made, in part, because we had users asking for it.

So the squeaky wheel gets the oil it sounds like. I see a bunch of people in this thread saying it's a terrible idea. What's the bar for action?

However it won’t be possible to make every user here happy.

I understand but there are other solutions besides banning incredibly relevant topics.

We’ve taken the actions that we thought were best based on the desires of some of our users.

As a former mod I respect this, truly, and I'm not going to go on crusade here I'm keeping my thoughts here for now. But the fact is we both know megathreads do not stay active and no one likes to participate in them because they know no one sees them. At the bare minimum you need this to be a weekly megathread you post. This is way too broad to just entirely prohibit outside of a single thread no one will see. If you're taking suggestions, that's my slightly-less-crappy solution.

At the very least I'd respect this a lot more if we didn't pretend this didn't end these topics for good.

hoodatninja ,
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Because lemmy, like Reddit, is not conducive to the concept of a megathread. It’s the format that’s the problem, not the contents. You expect people to constantly stop what they’re doing and deliberately navigate to an old megathread and then sort through all the comments/conversations happening with days - weeks even - of gaps between them? Nobody does that.

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Well the next time a community bans a topic you think should be allowed you make sure to remember this comment lol

hoodatninja ,
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People are treating this platform exactly like reddit because the churn of posts is exactly the same. You participate in the first hours or you miss it entirely.

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hoodatninja ,
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Of course there are a lot of posts about it. There are big changes happening over at Twitter right now. It will obviously settle down eventually, but it’s an ongoing, pretty significant event.

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hoodatninja ,
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Huh

hoodatninja ,
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Whether or not it intended that way, that is not how people browse. Most people just sort by “hot“ - the default - and doomscroll all day. There is nothing to incentivize people sorting by new/active comments so no one will.

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Huh

hoodatninja ,
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I have an 8 year old iPad that can still use Amazon video and can still run Netflix, and google drops support for these computers as early as 3 years. I’m not an Apple fanboy but that is absolutely ridiculous.

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What year is the mini from? I run a Plex server off a 2010 Mac mini.

Apple devices are serviceable for far longer after the OS stops updating than windows/android devices in my experience. But regardless, Apple doesn’t discontinue support as early as 3 or 4 years. Even you have to admit that is ridiculous of google.

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Hih

hoodatninja ,
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It can’t run everything obviously but the fact that my nearly 10 year old iPad can handle video streaming still and these schools have bricked laptops after 3 years is ridiculous.

hoodatninja ,
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Couldn't agree more. Every computer I have, no matter how old, can connect and do most things fine.

hoodatninja ,
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For a school they functionally are. They can’t use them if they can’t get security updates.

hoodatninja ,
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He also steered hard into his more right-wing/MAGA fanbase, which never ends well.

hoodatninja ,
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The first public crack in the armor really came in 2019 when he inserted himself in the Thailand cave rescue effort in the worst way.

Let's not gloss over the fact that he started calling people "pedos" for not liking his rescue idea.

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Yeah, as critical as I am of Musk, I have to admit that Tesla and the electric car revolution it has spurred is definitely in large part the result of his efforts and investment. As much as I can’t stand the dude, I have to give credit where credit is due.

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Without the investment and PR explosion he gave them it is incredibly unlikely they could've made it this far. The legislative hurdles and competitive pressure Musk just shrugged off for years should not be discounted. He had his entire fortune to fall back on if the gamble didn't pay off, so the threats to his bottomline and prolonged battles did not impact him the same way it would a startup.

Again, I can't stand the dude. But Tesla made it because of him, warts and all.

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It's not like he was a middle class guy with a dream and a giga brain. He had a lot of money to spend.

Let me be crystal clear here that I have never, ever thought that.

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Twitter has lost over 10% of its users and engagement/monthly active users is down, Musk even admits they’ve lost users. Traffic is also going down with the API change/requirement to be on Twitter proper, as well as limiting the number of tweets one can see.

Considering how much a Twitter is bots, that means the number of actual people who left is actually much higher. So yeah, something did change lol just because you haven’t noticed it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Edit: I’m not sure why you are talking about left and right users tbh. Seems like you’re kind of shoehorning a “both sides“ comment since no one is talking politics here.

In light of articles all over Lemmy about Google pushing ManifestV3 onto Chrome and the majority of web users, isn't that an antitrust violation? (www.ftc.gov)

So as I understand it, Google’s using it’s monopoly market position to force web “standards” unilaterally (without an independent/conglomerate web specification standards where Google is only one of many voices) that will disadvantage its competitors and force people to leave its competitors....

hoodatninja ,
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Everyone should go over to Firefox as well as advocate against this.

hoodatninja ,
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Because it’s satirizing boomer humor/“kids these days”-style posts. That’s the joke!

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