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froop ,

I think you two might be working with different definitions of deserve

Study finds that Chat GPT will cheat when given the opportunity and lie to cover it up later. (lemmy.world)

We demonstrate a situation in which Large Language Models, trained to be helpful, harmless, and honest, can display misaligned behavior and strategically deceive their users about this behavior without being instructed to do so. Concretely, we deploy GPT-4 as an agent in a realistic, simulated environment, where it assumes the...

froop ,

Your description is how pre-llm chatbots work. They were really bad, obviously. It’s overly simplified to the point of dishonesty for llms though.

Emergent properties don’t require feedback. They just need components of the system to interact to produce properties that the individual components don’t have. The llm model is billions of components interacting in unexpected ways. Emergent properties are literally the only reason llms work at all. So I don’t think it’s absurd to think that the system might have other emergent properties that could be interpreted to be actual understanding.

froop ,

The interaction is between nodes in the model. Those are the components that individually have no real characteristics, but when combined into a billion-dimension model, that results in emergent properties. Correctly writing novel code is an emergent property. Correctly solving an ASCII art maze is an emergent property. There is a point where a text predictor, being sufficiently accurate, demonstrates emergent understanding.

Your definition emergent property is outright wrong.

froop ,

Looks like it eliminates the engine-side cvd but not the wheel-side.

froop ,

There is no angular change between the axle shaft and the engine.

froop ,

GTA5 was the most profitable entertainment product of all time when it was single player only. It turned a profit in one day. It’s definitely going to have an online mode, but there’s no reason to expect it to forgo single player, especially after rdr2.

froop ,

Their completely different set of values led to RDR2, so I’m not worried.

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