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deft ,

A little more nuanced than that.

Where did Israel come from? Who lived there first? Why was Israel set there and who deemed it all legal?

Imperialism.

People native to the area are shoved aside, money is sent to force those people being shoved aside and nobody is supposed to care they are shoved aside.

I agree chart pushes a narrative but the narrative is not “Palestinians are crybabies about missile strikes”

deft ,

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IJLFnzU0RTY

deft ,

Nah I think you sound insane. She’s saying leave Palestinians alone and stop oppressing them while also saying, at a later point for a different reason, not to celebrate the slaughter of people.

How is any of that more complex than that? lol y’all are in-fuckin-sane

deft ,

Lol what does that change? She’s advocating for the people of Palestine? Then this event happens and she says don’t celebrate the murder of people. Her position is clear and makes sense, less violence more helping people.

This shit makes complete sense. How are any of you confusing this?

deft ,

Nice bullshit scenario.

“One side has to kill the other there is no alternative, nothing else can be done” - you, a moron.

She’s advocating for less violence. Period fullstop and she always does. Makes sense.

Palestinians responding with violence makes sense.

I do support Ukraine but Ukraine did not invade a Russian place and attack citizens and innocents and defenseless people. So these are not the same.

This whole situation is fucked but you’re not gonna play this fucking game and pull it apart in one side or the other, you qre the problem. I support the innocent people. Fuck Israel’s current regime, fuck people who shoot other people. Fuck rapists.

What the fuck are you actually talking about honestly?

deft ,

Nah move the goal post further.

What you’re seeing is trauma being radicalized into violence. This attack likely was supported by foreign aid likely Iranian maybe further.

So this is actually what resistance looks like with foreign aid.

deft ,

Israel could end it’s occupation any time it wants.

Agreed.

Palestine has no choice. What the fuck else can they do?

I don’t know but this isn’t it. What happened here was foreign intervention pushing for aggression and Hamas using the pain of widows and orphans to fuel violence.

They don’t win this way though. This is not the solution this was a bad idea.

deft ,

Your plan is to keep murdering people. Shut the fuck up lol

This action only let Israel unleash more violence. How are you this stupid?

Go learn about civil rights movements, you don’t win a fight like this it don’t work.

deft ,

So you’re supporting Ukraine and appalled by Russia’s invasion?

deft ,

where did he say that?

sick of you fuckers not letting people feel complexly about this. fuck off

deft ,

The allies should have given them land in europe or america instead they did imperialism and now we are here.

So honestly probably anywhere else

deft ,

I care so … me?

deft ,

that is dealing with them.

step 1 - understanding

deft ,

If it is data someone can get it.

I do not know the solution. In a few years password managers will be seen as bad things, it’s a collection of all your passwords ffs how is that really any safer?

deft ,

The US loves killing brown people especially on behalf of other white people.

Are you even American? /s

deft ,

i don’t think so Thailand has some serious violence atm. Wasn’t there some police officer attacking a daycare with a knife or something? He killed like 30 people or something

deft ,

TBH I struggle to worry for Afghanistan. That country has a terrible culture and while we can criticize the US here, that place was not and has not been fine for a very long time.

deft ,

No absolutely not.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

While this might be controversial Afghanistan and a lot of other places in the world do actually need foreign policing and a forceful cultural change.

Not saying how we make the change or what it becomes but some places are so ass.

deft ,

disgusting where would one find this content? solely to support the lady. hypothetically

deft ,

because this isn’t really useful info. Ukraine destroyed a grain silo cool

are you suggesting something

deft ,

This comment was funny but your argument with this guy became kinda dumb.

This dude forfeited his life for crimes he absolutely unequivocally committed. How he is killed, he has no right to decide. We the people do. Original commenter dude has a rough take but it isn’t that cruel, fuck murderers they’re fortunate we the people dislike violence and actively seek humane executions.

deft ,

Don’t disagree but does feel like a moment to point out America’s war crimes and what we’ve done to the world. This isn’t a wrongful killing and this isn’t generations of cancer and trauma and ruined societies because of our country.

This particular person right here is guilty though and in this one instance, fuck him. Fuck this guy. He is not part of our society, he’s not our friend or an ally or even deserving of humanity we treat one another with for how he treated one of us. It is decided he will experience the first version of this method of removal. He has no right to decide how, that is forfeit for him and allowing him to have that is injustice to the people he’s harmed.

And homie above saying fuck it shoot him was bad taste but jeez it is a tasteless comment at best.

deft ,

Basically same except my parents were duped traumatized poor people. Ain’t their fault. Love my goofy stoner parents

deft ,

Truly saddest when you look at your parent and see the scared kid inside them.

deft ,

So wrong.

This is just an old man saying guitarists were better in his day when truthfully they were not.

Rich white fuck gonna rich white fuck I guess.

deft ,

If the problem is money then there is no problem. It becomes a necessity and you can’t just not afford necessity. We allegedly are the richest country they need to figure it out regardless of cost. That simple.

It’s like climate change, there is no issue with money it just has to get done. Pay for it regardless of the cost. It is necessary

deft ,

nah never had that issue and I’m pretty fuckin opinionated. As a chef I argue more with old heads than gen z or millennials.

old fuckers think they know everything

deft ,

I don’t think so. I heard Millennials are the best with this stuff making us the outlier because we grew up in an age of constant tech advancement and during a time when a lot of things weren’t totally consumer friendly yet so we had to problem solve tech a lot.

Pirating played a big role in this with limewire and stuff but so did Xanga, Myspace and Tumblr having you learn basic coding to make shit cool.

The article could rather flip and say Millennials don’t fall for scams like everyone else does. They grew up with the Internet but we pioneered it.

deft ,

Piracy has become kind of easier and standard. I haven’t checked but I bet there is a discord and youtube community about pirating. That didn’t exist. I learned about torrenting from an online friend through Maplestory. Limewire was a thing some kid at school told you about. And we all got viruses doing it.

It felt like you had to know a guy to know anything. Now you can just google and the communities for pirating are massive now.

deft ,

“signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.”

they still suggest Chinese origin

deft ,

The more important part is lack of education about these topics or an effort to heal those harmed by it.

deft ,

Tbh kill em fuck if I care about this one

deft ,

losing the invasion they started

deft ,

trading available through this?

deft ,

why does he look like that

deft ,

The worst thing for the socialist movement are other socialists

deft ,

Literally this.

In any system their will be abuse, from hacking in video games to corruption in politics.

The thing is though I’d rather we be corrupt and feeding/housing those who need it rather than be corrupt and not doing those things

deft ,

You spelled the central intelligence agency and western intelligence apparatus wrong

deft ,

Sure.

So anyway Henry Kissinger is a name you should look up. Allen Dulles. George HW Bush. Roy Cohn. Good places to start.

Also the term Whataboutism fits here. I’m saying socialism isn’t allowed to exist because of the Western Capitalism supplied Intelligence Agencies. What are you talking about?

deft ,

When will these hate crimes against strawmen end!!

Socialism isn’t a single system bud, neither is capitalism. Are you suggesting the current state of any society on this planet is utopian? Probably not.

More capitalist countries and empires have fallen than socialist ones. More death happens because of the structure of capitalism. Capitalism has caused more wars. It has existed longer, there’s literally no arguing any of what I just stated.

Are any of these arguments good to stop someone from exploring what capitalism can do or offer? No. So stop being stupid.

Historically also, no. No socialist country was allowed to exist without foreign interference.

Stop boiling everything down to a meme you halfwit. We absolutely need more socialist policymaking and a genuine consideration of what society needs to look like.

deft ,

But what does that look like and how do you establish it without accidentally murdering millions.

The wheels of history are lubricant for the wheels of history, evil shit but true. Whenever we want to move history we need to always consider who is being harmed.

Our system sucks but turning it off will inevitably cause a shock of some degree and that harms people.

Literally a kobayashi maru

deft ,

Communists tried to make sure capitalism couldn’t exist far harder than capitalists did for communism

That’s just literally not true. Financially alone communist countries didn’t have the money to fight back, that’s why they often moved towards socialism. Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela. The countries were poor because heavy capitalist countries owned the main exports of these countries. Like the term Banana Republic is one sided.

The entire goal of socialism is for workers to change the structure of capitalism. “Declaring war” in that way is like the war on drugs, language more than anything. This is not like a Jihad. It is just the philosophical belief that we aren’t truly free until we own our venue of money making. As a people that’s for the country you live in, as a person or worker it is for the company you operate with.

This war is a declaration of change of the relationship of the rich and poor, the workers and the owners.

But if you really think the KGB has done as much as the CIA I have a bridge to sell you. The KGB wish they were the CIA.

deft ,

this is a real argument lol

deft ,

Took a lot of words for you to express you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

Marxist-Leninist economic theory? Lmfao.

I also find it hilarious you both agree the countries couldn’t fight back but also you’re saying capitalists never fought them in the first place. They did very aggressively.

If you want to continue being ignorant about the CIA go ahead but you’re just wrong bud. Like the Red Scare was real, the Cold War happened. Kissinger was constantly looking for excuses to nuke anyone over socialism.

You are cluelessly outside your mind

deft ,

and I’m saying you sound so clueless treating this like some weird war between factions. It is an extremely uninformed position and view.

deft ,

But the CIA, who has way more funding, didn’t constantly overthrow any form of socialism they smelled? Okay.

Do you support unions or workers rights by chance?

deft ,

Which is fine. But you can’t deny the entire history of worker’s rights is haunted by capitalists trying to prevent or entirely suppress it. Socialism has followed the same path. Any time it is implemented from basic worker rights, which is a left socialist goal, it is intentionally poisoned by those in power.

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deft ,

businessinsider.com/cuba-teen-took-russia-constru…

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