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ToddPM , to actuallyautistic
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I get very irritated when people (including and especially my family) don't answer my question but instead answer the question they think I meant to ask.

I'm not great at conversation, I think partially because I'm always thinking about how to say things and even rehearsing a future conversation in my mind. (Granted, this causes a lot of supposition on my part regarding the flow of the imaginary conversation.)

@actuallyautistic

arisummerland ,
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@ToddPM @actuallyautistic I find that I rehearse possible conversations all the time -- and then they never go the way I expect them to! Probably for this exact reason. Other people don't ask direct questions. Then the questions that they do ask feel more intrusive, because I'm not prepared for them.

chevalier26 , to random
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@actuallyautistic Anyone ever tell you that you were being "too negative" or a "Debby downer" when stating facts about something? Just happened to me earlier with my family. In this case it was reasons why I prefer not to travel often (routine change haha). The whole time I was thinking, "but I'm not trying to be negative..."

arisummerland ,
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@chevalier26 @actuallyautistic oh yeah. Definitely. Especially when, like you said, I'm just trying to state the fact. Most people don't want to know the facts!

farah , to actuallyautistic
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I’ve been reading about “stimming in autism”, which up until now was very confusing to me mostly because that’s the one point kept being repeated in the community being a must for an autistic individual. And I can’t relate to that at all.

Then I came across something that describes the purpose of ‘stimming’ is to deal with extra energy. Then it kinda hit me, I’ve never had the need to stim because I’m a low energy person in general.

I get overwhelmed with activities when they involve raising heart rates (yes, THAT too). I like quiet things, dead of night etc. Once at a time in my life, I was pretty sure I could hear flow of electricity.

So my question to the community: do you think stimming is a must for autistic people? Do you relate to it? Anyone know of any low energy stimming that gets overlooked?

Thanks! Much love!! 💕 @actuallyautistic

arisummerland ,
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@farah @actuallyautistic It's definitely a spectrum, not to over-use that word.

I tend to be more of a low- energy/exhausted individual as well, and I can usually hear sounds that other people can't hear (that are actually happening, not just in my head).

My few stims are subtle, unless I am on overwhelm. Then, they tend to be harmful, so I work really hard to suppress them.

I remember asking other kids in middle school if they could see the different color of fluorescent lights and that they were flickering. I wish someone had known then that I was neurodivergent. Though neither the school nor my parents would have known what to do with that information!

arisummerland ,
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@farah @actuallyautistic YES! And the SOUNDS they make. Ughhh!

Ilovechai , to actuallyautistic
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I don't have the spoons to explain why I feel my neurodivergence is making this worse, but I need feedback or insight from other ND people on a unique experience. This will be a long thread (added in replies) but I'm hopeful there will be a few kind readers who either relate or have something supportive to share.
Here goes:
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@actuallyautistic @actuallyaudhd


arisummerland ,
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@Ilovechai @actuallyautistic @actuallyaudhd

I don't go on discord much, but yes. There is this group:

lifewithtrees , to actuallyadhd
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“What do you want to do 5 years from now?”

🤔

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I am having a difficult time visioning 5 years from now, what I want to do and then how to get there.

Some of this is due to the chaos of the last few years, but I also think it could be a challenge due to

Also I am 42 so midlife stuff?

That all said, how do you vision 5 years from now?

@actuallyadhd @actuallyautistic

arisummerland ,
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@lifewithtrees @actuallyadhd @actuallyautistic I have always found this a nonsensical question and have never been able to answer it. I am I incapable of making a five-year plan. A single year never even goes or ends the way I hope it will. Five is impossible!

Uair , to actuallyautistic
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@actuallyautistic

How are you with animals?

I tend to throw off the wrong vibe for people, but get along with even the iffy animals. Dogs that don't like most people warm to me.

Just wondering how much of that is autism and how much me. My dad hates animals.

arisummerland ,
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@Uair @actuallyautistic 100% better with animals than people.

pathfinder , to actuallyautistic
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@actuallyautistic

Much to my shock I realised that I could be autistic when I was 53, roughly 7 years ago. And it was a shock, even though I suspect a very small, well hidden and very much ignored part of me, might have suspected. No one told me about it, or suggested that it might be the case. I did not see myself in relatives, the way so many of us do. I just happened to come across an autism test online and for no particular reason, took it.

It was that, that started me on my path to realising and finally accepting the truth that I was autistic. But, looking back, I sometimes find it hard to understand how I didn't know earlier. So much of my life now, just screams autism at me. But even ignoring the horribly ableist and medieval view I had of what autism was, the main reason why I didn't was probably because I could mask, both from myself and others, so well.

It was, I realise now, a life lived in denial. A denial of how much things bothered me, how much effort I had to put into things. Even a denial of the things I knew I couldn't do. Because this is the thing about appearing to mask so well, for so long. It is, in a sense, a lie. I couldn't mask well, if at all. Not all the time. Not in all situations or circumstances. There were things I just couldn't cope with, or even begin to deal with. But the trick was, that I either knew about them, or learnt the hard way about them and then I could manage my life to avoid them. Because they were things I could live without, without affecting how I appeared to be coping. Things that didn't affect the way I lived, even if they did affect my sense of worth. Because, how broken did you have to be, not to be able to go to crowded events, like a sports match, or a concert? Or to be able to deal with the socialising of a large gathering, or a family event, without having to hide in the kitchen, or forever outside, or break down in a toilet?

It was all part of how I masked myself from myself. The internal masking, as I like to call it. If I couldn't cope, then I was broken. If I couldn't stand something, then I was too picky, or sensitive, or I simply needed to learn to ignore it. And somehow I did learn. I learnt how to cope with noise and smell and visual overwhelm. I learnt to not let things bother me. To a point at least. There was always a step too far, when I couldn't, or didn't have the energy any more to maintain it. And this did take energy, a lot of it. Something I've only realising now that I don't have the energy to spare to even try it. Or the ability to, in many respects now that I know what I was trying so desperately to hide from.

Because when the truth is known, it's far harder to deny it. It's far harder to live the life where appearing to cope, is as good as coping. Where blaming yourself, is easier than seeing others faults. Where ignoring the pain, makes the pain go away. It's hard to see the mask as a benefit and always a good thing, rather than the shield and tool it always was.


arisummerland ,
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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic I appreciate you so much, Kevin. You always say these things so well and I resonate with this so much.

I started looking at "just what the hell was wrong with me?!" in 2016 after having to leave what should've been a dream job because it combined my college degree and my professional training. But the social aspects of the small office were intolerable, and I melted down so many times at work that I can't even tell you.

I had no idea at the time that I was autistic. In the years since then, because of online community and a few friends in real life who are also autistic, I've learned a lot about myself and been able to start forgiving myself for not being able to be "normal".

I entered a very deep period of burnout three years ago, after losing my partner and my dad in the same year, and now I am currently working to get out of that.

I sometimes feel hopeful and proud, both, about my neurology and understanding how to work with it better in the world. The isolation of the pandemic was hard, but it allowed me to drop all of the social constructs that were really not serving me.

I appreciate all of you so much! Thank you for being here. But especially you, Kevin. Please keep writing to us. You reach a lot of people in a really profound way.

pathfinder , to actuallyautistic
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@actuallyautistic

Autistic brains be stupid. Well, obviously not stupid, they just seem to work, or not work, in mysterious ways.

The main one that has always got me, about mine, is that I have no memory for sound, absolutely none. I can't remember a song, or a sound. I can't remember what my parents sounded like and none of my memories carry, for want of a better word, a soundtrack. I can remember what I was thinking and what others were saying, but not hearing them say it, nor any other sound. I also don't dream in sound, at least as far as I know. All my dreams are silent.

And yet, and it's a big yet. I have an excellent memory for voices and sounds. Like many autistics I have near perfect pitch, at least when I'm hearing others sing, or music playing. Just don't ask me to reproduce it, because I can't. If I meet someone I haven't met for a while, then I will almost certainly not recognise their face, or remember their name, but there is a very good chance that I will recognise them from their voice. I am also very good at detecting accents. Even the slightest hint of one in, say, an actor pretending to be an american, will get me searching Wikipedian to see if I am right about their actual nationality.

So, if I can tell the sound of a Honda CBR engine two blocks away, or a voice, or an accent buried deep, I must have the memories to compare against. And yet... nope.

So, as I said, autistic brains be stupid.


arisummerland ,
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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic Oh, this is fascinating! There has to be a name for it.

I wish I had a little bit less pervasive sound memory. It stands me in good stead with other humans, though, bc I am bad with faces and names, so once someone talks, I know if I know them.

Sounds, voices, accents, they all come with strong physical sensation and thus, strong memory. Sounds get stuck in my head, sometimes on repeat. I have to change my alarm tone frequently because even if I choose a seemingly pleasant one, it will end up stuck on a loop in my head. Sometimes I can sit down and reproduce it on the piano. But I don't think I have perfect pitch, despite having been a musician my entire life.

Our brains are so fascinating, aren't they?

arisummerland ,
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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic Yes, frustrating as well. I'm aphantasic, but I still dream. I haven't considered whether I can hear things in my dreams or not, though.

EVDHmn , to actuallyautistic
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@actuallyautistic

Would any of you be interested in doing a weekly audio conference? I have organizer stTus on meetup could do audio and discuss how everyone is doing checkins, talking science, or what it’s like for you personally in the world coping ?
Perhaps zoom audio, no judgements safe spaces etc over the internet ? Discords etc

arisummerland ,
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@EVDHmn @actuallyautistic I love the idea, but audio and video are both really difficult for me... I wouldn't mind sitting in, though.

arisummerland ,
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@olena @EVDHmn @actuallyautistic I have both APD and tinnitus... I prefer to read to understand things, so I love closed captioning. I'm also not visual (aphantasic), so words are my jam.

If I can hand-write while I'm listening, that helps me immensely (because I grew up processing things that way in school). Typing while listening -- not so much. Whether it's thumbs or on a full keyboard, I miss a lot. I can, however, transcribe very quickly from ear to keyboard for some reason. But understanding? Not so much.

I can't concentrate to drive a car if there is music or talk on the radio -- especially if I'm in a new place and trying to figure out where I am, or if traffic is dangerous. I have to turn the radio off and ask whoever is with me (who is probably happily jabbering away) to please be quiet while I navigate the issue.

If I'm concentrating on a task and someone is trying to talk to me, I simply can't. My mom is really guilty of this, especially when I'm driving, and especially when I'm trying to do things for her like problem-solve her computer or TV.

I've never been able to get into podcasts, and I think APD is the reason. Plus, people ramble and don't stay on topic and their digressions are never funny to me.

arisummerland ,
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LehtoriTuomo , to actuallyautistic

Reading about autism and processing what it means in my case is very interesting. But maybe most of all, it's a relief. As I start to write this toot, tears come to my eyes.

I've kicked myself so many times in different situations for not being smart enough. I guess my doctoral degree is counter-proof. Anyway, I've struggled with my identity as a scientist a lot. This has happened especially at conferences. I've felt so out of place there. I haven't been able to discuss many topics. I haven't been able to follow all the talks.

Or when discussing a topic with a research group, I haven't been able to come up with ideas or solutions to problems. Not on the spot, but when I've had the same information in writing and have been going over it on my own, it's been so much clearer.

Therapy worked wonders with understanding what my strengths are. However, it's been even bigger relief to understand that I'm autistic and how it has affected my life. It explains so much.

@actuallyautistic

arisummerland ,
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@LehtoriTuomo @actuallyautistic It is such a relief, even if the learning curve is steep at first. Going back and looking at our lives through the lens of autism can be challenging. There might be grief, there might be joy, there might be loss, and there might just be this "grand unifying theory of self", which is how it landed (mostly) for me. I've been able to look at my younger self and all the messes I made with more understanding and compassion.

mraharrison , to actuallyautistic
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@actuallyautistic Late diagnosed here, last year aged 55. I'm remembering stuff from my life and going "ah, that makes sense" a lot. An example is when I was accused of skipping school(I was waiting for my Dad to pick me up for an appointment, with permission) and I just meekly took a telling off from the Head of House because I didn't have the words to tell her she was wrong.

arisummerland ,
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@mraharrison @actuallyautistic I know this feeling! I never come up with the right words at the time.

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