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Tankiedesantski ,

China is helping China develop Chinese chips?

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Tankiedesantski ,

In which case Taiwan Province should refuse American demands to build chip factories in the US. If Taiwan’s strategic value comes from microchips then the US not having it’s own domestic supply prevents the US from walking away.

On the other hand, reunification has been a core interest for China since long before microchips were even a thing. You could Thanos snap all the chip foundries away tomorrow and the Chinese interest in reunification would not substantially diminish.

Tankiedesantski ,

Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People’s Republic of China.

However, both are China as you can see from the names they’ve chosen for themselves.

Tankiedesantski ,

Taiwan is counting on maintaining a key role in the United States’ high-tech economy. One where, if the island of Taiwan were to fall under the control of the mainland, American economic interests would be severely damaged. The existence of semiconductor factories in America doesn’t affect this calculus too much as long as a critical mass of manufacturing stays in Taiwan. In fact, tying Taiwan’s economy to the United States is beneficial because it means the pain of separating it will be greater, and hopefully the fear of such pain will make the Americans want to protect them.

Exactly my point. The interest of Taiwan Province is to have the critical mass of such manufacturing stay in the RoC, whereas the interest of the US is to have the critical mass of such manufacturing move to the US. Given these divergent strategic interests, it is the best interest of the RoC to sell chips to the US instead of allowing the US to make its own chips. The US doesn’t have a supply alternative to TSMC yet, so exporting RoC tech and factories to the US is weakening the RoC position and creating their own competitor (assuming the US doesn’t fuck up its own factories).

Tankiedesantski ,

xi-plz

Tankiedesantski ,

Only the PRC is recognized as a country under international law. The RoC government squatting in Taiwan Province is legally no different to the ISIS occupation of parts of Iraq.

The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms. The residents of Taiwan Province get to vote between stooges of American imperialism and stooges of Japanese imperialism.

Tankiedesantski ,

Democracy is when you spend several decades murdering and repressing all leftist political opposition. The more leftists to murder and suppress, the more democratic it is.

  • State Department Handbook, probably
Tankiedesantski ,

Taiwan is independent nowadays though.

Independence from China is when one of the emblems of your armed forces is this: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2724ad1c-9a7d-4f04-8ae4-0d54cecb8f39.png

Tankiedesantski ,

It’s obviously a country and it’s useless discussing this further with a tankie.

Renowned Tankies, the states parties to the Montevideo Convention. Hardcore Stalinists, the lot of them!

How do you define “American domination” and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it?

“It’s useless discussing with a Tankie!”, proceeds to discuss with a Tankie. Very good rhetoric, 10/10.

Tankiedesantski ,

I thought it was pointless to discuss with me? Which one is it? Retract one of your two contradictory statements and I’ll happily define whatever you want.

Tankiedesantski ,

None of the things you stated matter even a little as far as international law is concerned. You might subjectively think that those factors make an independent country, but your subjective opinion simply doesn’t matter because international law determines statehood, not am arbitrary list of “oh, well that’s nice” factors.

Tankiedesantski ,

Developing 5G communications and microchips for cellphones is belligerence. Bombing countries and funneling weapons to proxy wars is peace.

Tankiedesantski ,

I refer you to ISO 3166-2:TW where the territory in question is designated “Taiwan, Province of China” or “Taiwan (Province of China)”. I do take the liberty of shortening out the “of China” but I am happy to refer to the territory by its full name if you will agree to do the same.

If you have any issues with the designation, I encourage you to take it up with the International Standards Organization.

Tankiedesantski ,

Thankfully you are not teaching in an elementary school because I would expect an elementary school teacher to know the correct spelling of “bureaucracy”.

The point you are flailing at is that Taiwan, Province of China is de jure part of China (and the vast majority of the world’s nations recognizes the People’s Republic of China as the sole legitimate government of China. De facto there is another entity occupying Taiwan Province.

Contrary to you claim that they are “not tied whatsoever”, the ROC splinter government on Taiwan maintains a de jure claim over all of China (plus Mongolia) as blatantly illustrated by the official emblem of the ROC Marine Corps:

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/49eb4b1a-56ed-43da-8d5a-b46d92db608f.png

No country or international organization recognizes de facto control as the primary determing factor of independence or sovereignty. This is why terrorist organizations like ISIS or criminal gangs like certain cartels aren’t considered sovereign states simply because they occupy and administer territory.

Tankiedesantski ,

Putin isn’t chowing down on BK, neither are the oligarchs, or the heads of the army, the FSB, or so on.

What’s the point of making sure BK leaves the market except and ineffectual attempt to hurt ordinary Russians?

Tankiedesantski ,

I remember when the sanctions started and Western fast food, media, and social media were all pulling out. Someome quipped “oh no, Russians will be the healthiest and happiest people on the planet. How awful.”

Tankiedesantski ,

But Burger King sells to Russians and repatriates some of its profits back to the US. If BK leaves Russia then Russians will spend their money on other restaurants, presumably ones which do not send profits overseas (due to the sanctions) which paradoxically means more money staying in Russia.

If the restaurants close then there will be some momentary unemployment but there’s a war going on so unemployment helps smooth over manpower issues. That’s also ignoring the possibility of a Russian entity stepping into BK’s shoes like they did with McD’s and just running the place without the trademarks.

I don’t see any purpose beyond moral posturing.

Tankiedesantski ,

Worst case scenario for the west is that the Russians just rename the chain “Burger Tsar” or something and continue as normal. Russians still get their treats, BK gets no money.

Tankiedesantski ,

Is it effective? Especially since McD’s leaving the country has just resulted in the Russian suppliers and restaurant owners running the place on their own with the same recipes.

Are the Russian people going to be angry at the lack of clown/king related branding?

Tankiedesantski ,

Without American fast food, Russians will have to resort to eating rotten maggot-infested meat. It will be like a million Battleship Potemkins all at once.

Tankiedesantski ,

I don’t get the lactose intolerance thing. I’m Chinese and I have no problem with dairy, milk is common at supermarkets across East Asia. Korean and Japanese people love slathering cheese on things. Coffee with milk is really common in China.

I look at stats like how we are supposed to be 98% lactose intolerant and think I’m being gaslit one way or another. At this point I know more lactose intolerant white people than Asian people.

Tankiedesantski ,

“Evil CEE CEE PEE is trying to genocide bedbugs! Free bedbugs, revolution of our times!”

Tankiedesantski ,

His opinion used to be much more widespread 10 or 15 years ago. Now poor people can’t even eat fast food without being judged for wasting money.

He’s not just a capitalist pig, he’s an out of touch capitalist pig.

Tankiedesantski , (edited )

IMO it’s not really reasonable to blame the consumer for the shitification of Amazon. The only things that could have stopped this would have been more rigorous regulatory action against Amazon’s mergers and anticompetitive practices years ago.

Successful businesses tend towards monopoly and once they’re close to that position it’s almost impossible for individual consumers to do anything about it.

Tankiedesantski ,

Third party scraped reports citing a crypto shill site’s reporting on a blurry and redacted document from China’s equivalent of Facebook is how I get all my accurate and true news about things that really happened.

Tankiedesantski ,

If you ever notice, all apps developed in china are similar. Ads at start, invasive tracking using dummy images dropped in /pictures, unnecessary permissions like phone and IMEI, and so on. They literally don’t have a way to compare to something else. There’s the Baidu SDK, Tencent SDK, aliyun SDK and they are using bad coding practices because they’re doing that in isolation

jesse-wtf

What kind of shitty apps are you installing? Some of the most popular mobile games in the world are Chinese (Genshin, Honkai, Azurlane, Ark Knights, etc) and none of them do any of this shit.

I went to China recently with a buddy and I loaded a ton of China specific apps onto our phones. Mine was a Samsung and his was an iPhone. Between WeChat, Alipay, Taobao, Amap, DiDi, Dianping, the China Customs Service app and a bunch of other store and region specific apps, literally none of them did anything you described. I also bought a Xiaomi phone in China and migrated all my data over, so I can confirm that these apps don’t do anything like that even on a Chinese phone (which, btw, is way more strict with permissions than my Samsung, down to telling me each and every time google maps requested my location).

In addition to that, I have a bunch of apps for stuff from Chinese companies on my phone like Mijia, Fiio, Huawei, Moondrop, etc and none of them do this shit either.

Tankiedesantski ,

I just tried this with both my Xiaomi and my Samsung using both first party and third party file managers. Xiaomi showed 3 .gsX folders despite it being absolutely full of Chinese apps that I loaded on. Samsung with the same method had zero.

Why are all Chinese apps like this?

Tankiedesantski ,

The first link is just quoting the social media post verbatim. Treat it with the same degree of reliability as “this guy said on Facebook/Twitter…”

Second article actually goes out of its way to say how uncommon it is to be punished for circumventing the firewall:

“Climbing the firewall results in punishment” is not the norm A common misunderstanding among the public about circumvention is that anyone who circumvents the wall will be punished. This is unrealistic for two reasons: first, the public security organs do not have that many law enforcement police; second, the public security organs are not as busy as you think. Most of the time, the punishment for circumventing the wall is to pull out the radish and bring out the mud. There are typical cases where the public security organs take the initiative to go to the external network to arrest people, but the number is very small.

Judging from the 50 cases, only one case adopted the first-level “extreme law enforcement model”, that is, the “use of circumvention software is punishable” model. The description of the case was “A certain person used his own mobile phone to use a VPN on the Internet to circumvent the firewall.” Wall software, its behavior constitutes the unauthorized use of non-legal channels for international networking." Even so, the actual situation of enforcement may be different from the description of the administrative penalty decision.

Tankiedesantski ,

First of all, if there is a better source then OP should post the better source to begin with. Everyone should be skeptical when presented with a second hand summary of something going through two weak sources.

As for the original source, it’s an NED front based in the US so as far as I’m concerned it can be dismissed with no further consideration. https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/c540cf31-469b-4796-8d63-50dfc6b457b7.jpeg

Tankiedesantski ,

All three gsX folders were empty by the way, and that doesn’t explain why the samsung was squeaky clean. By your own admission this is no longer the case on newer versions of the apps and android, so you should at the very least go back and edit your post to put it into past tense.

Also, your assertion was that all Chinese apps are similar, so 3 out of dozens makes your statement demonstrably false.

Tankiedesantski ,

I’m sorry we can’t all be credulous stooges of American imperialism living on stolen land like you.

Tankiedesantski ,

I used all of them because I got my new phone a few days into the trip and used it for the remaining week or so I was there. I’m still using Chinese apps on a daily basis now, so why are they all empty?

Let’s talk about your other claims as well. Irrelevant permissions? Zero. Ads on boot? Hardly everything since most of the utility apps don’t have ads at all.

i repeat the statement, all chinese apps are similar, look for example mijia and meidi smart home, they’re basically identical, like “there’s only one way to make a smart home app”

All American apps are similar. Look for example Twitter and Threads, they’re basically identical, like “there’s only one way to make a social media platform”

I use dozens of chinese apps and i can totally distinguish immediately when the dev is chinese.

Well I’m sorry my digital caliper sense isn’t as developed as yours. I’ll strive to be better.

Tankiedesantski ,

And yes, like the other 8.1 billion people on the planet (sans you, of course), I live on stolen land! Have mercy!

Engaging in genocide minimization to own the socialists.

Tankiedesantski ,

Maybe the folders are empty because your Xiaomi has the “cleaner” app. Did you ever wonder why only Chinese phones have “cleaner” apps? Because the situation in the country is widely abused.

Again. Explain the Samsung not having a single hidden folder under the same circumstances. Is it because Samsung had a “cleaner” function too? Is the situation in South Korea widely abused top? Most Android phones have cleaning and self maintenance functions. Google’s Files app has a similar cleaning function. Has the problem spread to the US?!

You repeat that taobao or Huawei app store don’t have ads on the splash screen. This means you never actually used those apps.

No, those store apps are store apps. Of course they’re going to try to sell you shit. When I open my Amazon app the first thing it does is show me shit I might want to buy. Is Besos Chinese now too? When did this happen?

Your ridiculous claim is that all Chinese apps are similar. Therefore they all show ads on boot. My onus of proof is discharged when I show even one single Chinese app with no ads on boot, which is a lot of them.

The way you’re defending those coding practices is really weird. I notice now your username. Now I understand. It’s not that because the ruling party has a nostalgic symbol in their logo (but it’s as capitalist as the usa, without health insurance you’re fucked), the apps made in that country are automatically good and perfect.

Oh that’s weird, tell me about how Chinese people are fucked without health insurance when there’s universal health insurance?

I’m not defending any coding practices because there’s no such thing as a “Chinese coding practice” to defend. You started off saying that there were at least 3 verifiable things that all Chinese apps do, and now you’re down to “look, there’s a general vibe from apps from China”.

Tankiedesantski , (edited )

Woah you read some anonymous person’s social media page and went to a GitHub page that may or may not be connected to the same person?

Fuck, call the Pulitzer committee, we got ourselves an investigative journalist.

Tankiedesantski ,

you annoying mosquitoes

Aussie liberal avoid dehumanizing people challenge: Impossible

Tankiedesantski ,

Or it’s actually just some benign thing because you haven’t posted any evidence which says that the .gsX files are even malicious or caused by Chinese apps. I’ve been googling for it and haven’t found any serious documentation about it. A reddit post linking it with Hotels.com (American company, lmao) and an LTT thread linking it to Ladaza (a Filipino app). In the absence of more and better proof, I’m not even convinced that it’s an exploit.

And again. You claimed that ALL Chinese apps ask for IMEI permissions. No proof of that either. It’s all just made up horse shit to justify your vibes based racism about how Chinese people can’t code.

Regarding health coverage, it definitely depends on the employer, if you are unemployed and didn’t pay the optional premium, you won’t be cured as well. In other capitalist European countries you would be cured the same way for free no matter if you are homeless, unemployed or a billionaire. I lived several months in Beijing and I never saw an ambulance on the streets. Asked around, I always got the same response “ambulance too expensive, we go hospital by taxi”. Seems weird that a “communist” country doesn’t share resources with the comrades.

None of this is consistent with the link I provided so it’s your word and anecdote against the professionally prepared page and its supporting citations.

Tankiedesantski ,

We have a Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra style system where we reference memorable past events.

Tankiedesantski ,

What’s next, riding the bus being cheaper than calling a taxi?

Tankiedesantski ,

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/30dec393-ff3c-4c15-b700-d3b3f7d5ec65.jpeg

Tankiedesantski ,

I worked there for a good while.

Tell us of the deep abiding wisdom you gained from teaching English at a barely-regulated “school” for 12 months.

Tankiedesantski ,

Broken Hindu Fascist clock, correct two times a day.

Tankiedesantski ,

China may not have religious nonsense in textbooks post-genocide Cultural Revolution, but it does have superstitious nonsense so your distinction isn’t really valuable.

China has superstitious nonsense in it’s textbooks? Such as what?

Tankiedesantski ,

Coping westoids on Twitter: “Nooooo we’re only citing them to laugh at them!”

Tankiedesantski ,

One factor might be that persecution of Chinese-Americans has led to many prominent scientists returning from the US to China in recent years. Their new output would contain and be domestic citations.

Tankiedesantski ,

There is, however, precedent: the UN General Assembly in 1971 stripped Taiwan of the veto power it held as the representative of China, handing it instead to the communist government of the mainland.

Strip Russia of its veto power and give it to the PRC. Xi can have two vetoes, as a treat.

Tankiedesantski ,

Nah the real reason the UNSC seats are what they are is that they’re the winners of WWII.

If anything, kick France out because they did fuck all.

Tankiedesantski ,

You ever hear of the bikeshed effect? It’s the idea that if you get a committee of laymen to make a decision on something extremely complex, like a nuclear power plant, they’ll hyperfixate in on the one thing that they think they understand - the bike shed. So instead of oversight and planning of the important bits of the plant like the reactor or the safety system, each decision maker will take their turn altering the color and the dimensions and the positioning of the bike shed.

I’m gonna guess that the wall was their bike shed.

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