TCB13

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Flathub priorities: adding colors and banners;

What Flathub actually lacks: a decent way of archiving and installing things offline (that knows how to deal with architectures, drivers and dependencies), an official and proper way of mirroring the repository.

lol

TCB13 , 3 months ago

sshfs : probably most easy to setup. Can be confusing with ownership and permissions sometimes.

And the worst option if you have Windows clients.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

So, this like a Debian live USB with persistency enabled and tools for create people pre-installed. What else is new?

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

“There’s a school in Wisconsin that is so underfunded that they only have very old computers and the person running it barely knows hat’s a computer and thus won’t ever create a budget or approve new systems. Furthermore this school is so irrelevant they aren’t even able to qualify for free software from Microsoft. A bored teacher saved the day and made the old computers somewhat useful by installing Linux on his spare time. Of course all of this doesn’t come for free, the current generation of students never used a computer at home, just mobile devices, and are being robbed of learning a valuable and required skill for any future job - basic Windows and Office usage.”

There, article fixed for you.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Ahahaha, I like to think about all possible sides of a situation.

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Not everybody is a data-entry drone. I have no use for it, and I’m in a technical career.

Your manager, that most likely started his career as a tech person as most tech manager do, likely uses Office a lot and he certainly isn’t a data-entry drone. One day as you progress in your career you’ll too.

PS: whoever doesn’t understand this comment and downvote right away should really think about their life. If one doesn’t understand that a manager does need to be proficient in MS Office then you’ll never get there / have a very hard time.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

You don’t even use windows that much in any future job. You use the software solutions you are given as a wage slave

So you’re assuming there aren’t “wage slaves” doing data entry on MS Office and also that 0% of those students won’t ever be managers or hold any other more high level job that does require those tools. So you must be against teaching financial literacy at school as well because “they won’t ever invest anything”. Great job, let’s keep the peasants illiterate in everything they actually need to climb the ladder.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

There’s nothing that anyone can do in 2024 in the MS Office suite of applications specifically that I can’t find a third party or cloud equivalent of to do the exact same thing.

This isn’t true. It might be close to true for a lot of situations, but not true at all. And the issue here isn’t that there isn’t an alternative, those students can learn LibreOffice and do almost everything they need with it, however once they get into a job and the company uses MS Office they won’t be be able to pick the work right away and be as productive as their peers will be. Imagine one of those students tried to apply for a backoffice job at a bank, they’ll most likely test the person’s Office skills and the student may not be able to compete the assessment and have an inferior grade to another one who always had MS Office at his school.

I’m all for FOSS but we must be very responsible when it comes to what we expose young people to and how that may impact their careers on the long run. They should have exposure to Linux, LibreOffice and have a basic understanding of them but they shouldn’t be robbed of valuable jobs skills that may make a difference just because.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Or that :P

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Wouldnt you keep them computer illiterate when you teach them exclusively how to use Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office?

As I said on another comment:

Students can and should learn Linux / LibreOffice and can most likely do almost everything they need with it, however once they get into a job and the company uses MS Office they won’t be be able to pick the work right away and be as productive as their peers will be. Imagine one of those students tried to apply for a backoffice job at a bank, they’ll most likely test the person’s Office skills and the student may not be able to compete the assessment and have an inferior grade to another one who always had MS Office at his school.

I’m all for FOSS but we must be very responsible when it comes to what we expose young people to and how that may impact their careers on the long run. They should have exposure to Linux, LibreOffice and have a basic understanding of them but they shouldn’t be robbed of valuable jobs skills that may make a difference just because.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Also this is much better than giving students locked down Chromebooks

Oh yes, but still can pose a problem. Imagine one of those students tried to apply for a backoffice job at a bank, they’ll most likely test the person’s Office skills and the student may not be able to compete the assessment and have an inferior grade to another one who always had MS Office at his school.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

No it won’t. What you see is that younger generation (millennials that actually know a bit of Office) getting slandered as soon as they’re promoted and required to use those tools. They eventually learn them and are productive but it takes more time than it should. Precisely because of what you said is the reason why those generations should be exposed to said software - after all some of them will be managers, layers and other types of professionals that will keep using those tools.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

One semester in Excel you have time to learn how to use it for almost everything.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Did you even read my comment? That’s what I said.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

You aren’t wrong, but that’s besides the point. The point is that even if you’re decently computer savvy and you can switch around between programs you’ll always be better and faster at advanced features on the one you used more hours. If you say this never happens to you then you’ve never been exposed to a program for enough time to actually learn it from top to bottom.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

No problem 😂 We were just saying the same thing.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Once again, people should learn both and be aware of the differences as I said somewhere.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Except for the fact that it is what every major company out there uses lol

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Oh but it happens.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Mostly because if you’re working on a MS centric company and you’ve a lot of integration with other MS tools people then need Word and Excel. Besides, Zoom is the biggest piece of shit communication software out there, MS Teams is way way better both in call quality and in screen sharing. Zoom doesn’t even come close to MS Teams on that last one. Once you’ve documentation with dynamic references to other people, meetings, excel sharing data to and from sharepoint and sometimes NAV then it gets really hard to use docs. Besides calc can’t still do some advanced formula features.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

But, coming back to this school, do you think that they could afford licenses for the latest MS Office and or MS Windows?

Microsoft typically offers licenses to education… and when it comes to Windows it doesn’t even matter as most retailers already sell machines with Windows licenses with very competitive prices. It’s usual to see bigger retailers selling computers with a Windows license at the same price a smaller retailer would do without license just because they’ve the volume and get good deals from both Microsoft and hardware vendors.

I’m not complaining, just stating something that should be taken into consideration.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

You are already drowning in downvotes.

So what? I’m not a politician running a politically correct popularity contest and saying what people want to hear to win votes. I’m just stating what is omitted from the article and what is a fact as you eventually got there:

Really the only application that managers are likely to have any specialist knowledge around is Excel. I will admit that knowing Excel specifically vs other spreadsheet applications is useful. Being able to do a VLOOKUP, a pivot table, or even just proper multi-sheet formulas is useful

Honestly though, the Internet is littered with $19 Excel courses. Take one.

Yes, and will a gen-Z take them? Isn’t just easier to gradually expose them to those tools so they learn naturally without the pressure of getting to some job?

TCB13 , 3 months ago

The art and humanities is more a side project

I’ll add:

A side project that isn’t a life or death situation like most of those physical labor things you’re talking about. Art isn’t also bound or constrain by rules and regulations like those jobs and if the AI fails at art then there’s no problem. Nobody would care.

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Start by replacing your ISP-provided router with something that runs OpenWrt and explore around.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Or, better yet, LXD/Incus.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

You next OS will be… Debian. Because you care about your time and you want stuff to be stable.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Maybe first they should determine who the community is. The people who talk the loudest about nix/nixos? The contributors? The users? Who is “the community”?

Maybe it’s written the way it is so nobody knows who’s the community and they can do whatever they please while saying it was in the best interest of the “community”.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

“NixOS, the guys who want give the final blow to the development and devops landscape in hopes to later introduce a highly profitable, proprietary and closed technology / repository, decided they couldn’t wait for the money anymore so they got a sponsorship from Anduril - an US defense contractor. The community lost their minds at this move because it doesn’t fit their righteous, politically correct thus borderline marxisist, moral code and then the guys in charge pressured by the fear of losing said free labor decided to apologize to enact a somewhat vague policy guide. Said document pushes the ideia that the community is all that matters and that all further important decisions will be community driven without actually defining who composes it.”

There, fixed for you.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

It’s obvious that a tool meant to have traceable builds amd reproduction of binaries will be used by lots of places relatedbto security, military, etc.

Yes.

It’s like putting the head in the sand and denying that the world exists.

We’re talking about people who aren’t even payed to contribute to the project… you know how it is, not everyone would work in Lockheed Martin.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

No, no, this is the peak OS installation menu:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c09da0ea-76c0-437c-ae16-1c22c486050d.png

😜

TCB13 , 3 months ago

There you go, peasants.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Isn’t that ReactOS? :P

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

Assuming you’ve website.tld you just have to create two “child name servers”* eg. ns1.website.tld + ns2.website.tld and set their respective “glue records” (IP addresses). Your register needs to be able to create and publish those to the zone above for it to work. Not sure if that’s the case with yours but it seems to be possible.

• The term “child name servers” is used by some providers to define those kinds of records and it may change from provider to provider.

I don’t understand how this can work because ns1.website.tld would be served by my dns server which is not yet known by others.

That’s because they aren’t served by your DNS server. Remember the “publish those to the zone above for it to work”? What happens is that your domain registrar has to publish your glue record to the TLD zone.

If you run dig +trace +additional google.com SOA you’ll see:

1. Ding asking a root dns server (xyz.gtld-servers.net) who’s the name server for google.com
2. Root server will provide you with NS record naming ns4.google.com.
3. … and also return A record for that name, 216.239.38.10. That’s the “additional” response that serves the glue record.

Then dig will proceed to call 216.239.38.10 and ask what’s the record for google.com. That’s how DNS and glue records work and also why it isn’t a circular dependency like you were thinking it was.

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

OP asked “Do I need a second domain” you answered “AFAIK, yes.” even though you proceeded to contradict yourself :) Maybe you can remove the “AFAIK, yes.” from the comment?

I actually updated the answer to be more descriptive informative meanwhile.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

NP. Updated accordingly.

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

So… this was the plan of the Standard Notes guys all along? Now it makes sense why they never made open-source and self-hosting a true priority.

Let’s see what Proton does with this, but I personally believe they’ll just integrate it in Proton and further close things even more. The current subscription-based model, docker container and whatnot might disappear as well. Proton is a greedy company that doesn’t like interoperability and likes to add features designed in a way to keep people locked their Web UI and applications.

Standard Notes for self-hosting was already mostly dead due to the obnoxious subscription price, but it is a well designed App with good cross-platform support and I just wish the Joplin guy would take a clue on how to design UIs from them instead of whatever they’re doing now that is ugly and barely usable.

TCB13 , 3 months ago (edited 3 months ago)

There’s no vendor lock in until you realize your emails are essentially hostage of their apps and a bridge that may be shutdown at any point. If you can’t simply setup a regular email client then there’s vendor lock in, not even Microsoft does that.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

The issue not that you can’t export in bulk, you’re locked into their apps daily. Every other email provider out there uses standard protocols that allow for any client to be used.

Besides, the export feature is all fun until you actually have to use it. There’s a bunch of metadata that gets lost, contacts, calendars and notes are exported in JSON with propriety structures that other systems can’t deal with. Note that there’s also CardDAV/CalDAV as open and interoperable solutions for those issues and they device not to use them.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

And, and what will happen when they decide to discontinue the bridge? What happens when you’re running on iOS and you can’t have the bridge? You’ll be forced into their apps, that’s pretty locked. Besides does the bridge even provide contacts and calendars to Thunderbird? Last time o checked it didn’t. What about notes?

TCB13 , 3 months ago

I agree 100% with your ideia. The best path for this would’ve been for them to actually design that system you describe and THEN implement it on Dovecot and Postfix in their own fork or a Dovecot extension / Postfix add-on so others would start using them. Eventually after some times and other providers also optionally supporting the thing an RFC could be written. This is the usual course we see with protocols/extensions and is what should’ve happened here.

I want to share another thing, before Snowden there was Lavabit, they also did “encryption at rest” and the user password involved for some parts of the information and it was proven to be effective. It wasn’t a perfect model but it was certainly better than the havoc Proton did to e-mail by opening the precedent that is okay not to run on standard protocols.

What Proton is doing to e-mail is about the same that WhatsApp, Messenger and others did to messaging - instead of just using an open protocol like XMPP they opted for their closed thing in order to lock people into their apps. People in this community seem to be okay with this just because they sell the “privacy” cool-aid.

server-to-server communication, like for automatic pgp key negotiation, would be nice too.

I’m not sure if this is required. Any decent e-mail server uses TLS to communicate these days, so everything in transit is already encrypted.

Still, Proton has a easy to access data export that doesn’t require a bridge client or subscription or anything. I think that’s required by GDPR.

Yes, they have it because GDPR does require it. It works, but it’s not a real time sync alternative to anything and it is some kind of vendor lock-in.

As I said in other comments, not using standard protocols only makes thing worse. I used iOS as an example, for Android you can get a bridge but that’s just going to be one more thing going for your battery.

Now, consider this, there’s a TON of situation where having a standard SMTP-capable provider is interesting. Maybe you’re running in iOS, maybe you want to have an ESP32 to send a few emails, or some custom software in your computer. All those use cases are impossible or require more coding and more non-standard solutions just because Proton decided to be the first provider ever not to use standard protocols.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

You actually pose an interesting question, what happens if they go down. How much time will their apps / cache work? We don’t know.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Here’s what I think: if they actually do everything with open standards and PGP by the book, why can’t they provide IMAP/SMTP access to everyone who wants it BUT add the disclaimer that you’ve to use a PGP compatible e-mail client and configure it to deal with the encryption… they could even configure their submission to refuse any email that isn’t PGP encrypted to improve things further. The fact that they don’t do this leads me to believe that they either a) aren’t actually doing everything as “by the book PGP” and there might be security issues or b) they’re “privacy” as a catch all excuse in order to push a bit of vendor lock-in.

Their market niche is privacy conscientious people and those same people tend be to computer savvy and I bet half of them would mind setting up PGP on Thunderbird and use Proton without a bridge. Everyone else could still use their apps, web or the bridge.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Maybe one listed at www.privacytools.io/privacy-email or european-alternatives.eu/…/email-providers ?

TCB13 , 3 months ago

And why’s?

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Thanks.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

PGP is not closed. What proton has done is make a really cool JS library for PGP as part of their Web UI (openpgpjs.org) which other projects, even those unrelated to Proton have used, like Mailvelope.

I never said PGP was closed, what I was saying is that their implementation of the access to their service is closed (not using standard IMAP/SMTP) and subsequently “their” PGP might be questionable / opaque.

If they actually do everything with open standards and PGP by the book as they say, why can’t they provide IMAP/SMTP access to everyone who wants it BUT add the disclaimer that you’ve to use a PGP compatible e-mail client and configure it to deal with the encryption… they could even configure their submission to refuse any email that isn’t PGP encrypted to improve things further. The fact that they don’t do this leads me to believe that they either a) aren’t actually doing everything as “by the book PGP” and there might be security issues or b) they’re “privacy” as a catch all excuse in order to push a bit of vendor lock-in.

Their market niche is privacy conscientious people and those same people tend be to computer savvy and I bet half of them would mind setting up PGP on Thunderbird and use Proton without a bridge. Everyone else could still use their apps, web or the bridge.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

Great find, even worse than what I was thinking. Like you I was also under the assumption they applied some kind of encryption to all metadata as well.

TCB13 , 3 months ago

The point is that you’ve tons of Chinese companies selling e-ink tablets with color displays and Kobo now decided to spend a couple more bucks doing the same in order to catch up.