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TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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roboticsbackend.com/enable-ssh-on-raspberry-pi-ra…

On Raspberry Pi OS, ssh is disabled by default, so you’ll have to find a way to enable ssh + find the IP address + connect to it.

The workarounds are either using their tool and/or fiddling on the SD card. Other SBCs do the reasonable thing and have it enabled by default. This simply pushes people into using their tool.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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I’ve better suggestions for you than that board… way better.

There’s an upcoming board the BPI-R4 with optional Wifi and 10G SPF cage: wiki.banana-pi.org/Banana_Pi_BPI-R4

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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Yes you can, but then without a display and keyboard you won’t be able to SSH into the thing right away. They’re using small tricks like that to push people into their tool and you’ll be seeing more of that crap in the future.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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With patience and from eBay and local second hand websites. If you’re in Europe you’ll usually see sellers from Germany selling them for cheap, in the US there are a LOT more offers.

Regardless, like used cars, sometimes a specific generation that is cheap today can be more expensive tomorrow , it all depends on the amount of machines someone or some big company is dumping at the time you’re searching for. In my case I can usually get things locally cheaper than eBay, for eg. recently I saw a very good deal on a HP Elite Mini 600 G9 i3-12100T 16GB of RAM, NMVe 256GB for 300€.

TCB13 , to linux in Nextcloud as Personal Cloud – Brno Hat
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What do you think about this screenshots: lemmy.world/comment/5490189 ?

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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What if you really hate the fact that The RPi foundation is being hostile against people nowadays with proprietary PCIe connectors, telemetry, requiring a custom flash tool to get SSH and whatnot?

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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I totally agree with you there. lemmy.world/comment/5500098:

For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.

I even went further on GPIOs and low level electronics here lemmy.world/comment/5500638:

RPi 2B+ for around 10$ nowadays (…) other brand new cheap SBCs such as the Radxa Zero 3W or the Zero 3E or even the Raspberry Pi Zero W. The point is that it doesn’t make sense to buy a standard and expensive RPi for things that don’t require much CPU. If you don’t really need an OS and you code C or MicroPython a 3.5$ ESP32 board as well.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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Check this out: lemmy.world/comment/5503906

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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Lmao, do your research before commenting stuff like that.

TDP 35 W Thermal Design Power (TDP) represents the average power, in watts, the processor dissipates when operating at Base Frequency with all cores active under an Intel-defined, high-complexity workload. Refer to Datasheet for thermal solution requirements.

Here’s how things look on the HP model above:


<span style="color:#323232;">  Model name:            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8500T CPU @ 2.10GHz
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    BIOS Model name:     Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8500T CPU @ 2.10GHz To Be Filled By O.E.M. CPU @ 2.0GHz
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    BIOS CPU family:     205
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    CPU family:          6
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Model:               158
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Thread(s) per core:  1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Core(s) per socket:  6
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Socket(s):           1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    Stepping:            10
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    CPU(s) scaling MHz:  23%
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    CPU max MHz:         3500.0000
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    CPU min MHz:         800.0000
</span>

Obviously that thing wont be running at base frequency while idling. Here is one if units right now:


<span style="color:#323232;">analyzing CPU 0:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  driver: intel_pstate
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  hardware limits: 800 MHz - 3.50 GHz
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  available cpufreq governors: performance, powersave
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 3.50 GHz.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                  The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                  within this range.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
</span>

See, it scales down to 800Mhz with a watt meter I remember it translated to idling at around 10-11W.

I never said it was better than a Pi, I just said the difference is not worth it and you’re still ignoring the fact that i5-8500T will be able to do a LOT more work than the RPi5 could do while keeping the CPU bellow or at 2.1 GHz - not surpassing the 35 W TDP.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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So you share my opinion: lemmy.world/comment/5500098:

For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.

I even went further on GPIOs and low level electronics here lemmy.world/comment/5500638:

RPi 2B+ for around 10$ nowadays (…) other brand new cheap SBCs such as the Radxa Zero 3W or the Zero 3E or even the Raspberry Pi Zero W. The point is that it doesn’t make sense to buy a standard and expensive RPi for things that don’t require much CPU. If you don’t really need an OS and you code C or MicroPython a 3.5$ ESP32 board as well.

TCB13 , to linux in Debian based immutable OSes
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BTRFS snapshots :P

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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Well kubii.com/…/3824-odroid-h3h3-card-3272496313545.h… on their website yes, it costs $165 www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-plus/ assuming you won’t pay extra taxes.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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Depends on your use-case. If you want to use GPIO and other low level features, yes the Pi is faster to get going, if you’re just using ir for a NAS/storage then a board like that will work out of the box.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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If you just need GPIO for low level electronics there are 20$ SBCs that get the job done. No need for a full RPi5.

TCB13 OP , to selfhosted in Banana Pi BPI-M7 - More Reasons to Avoid the Raspberry Pi
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You won’t be running a Pi5 without a cooler, the kit costs 79$ or 99$ (for the 8GB of RAM). I never said it was over 100$.

Now HP Mini i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways costs you 100$ as well. And then there’s the 4 and 5th gen Mini PCs selling for 50-70$. If you want even cheaper then look for i3 CPU + 4 GB of RAM, you’ll find 40$ complete machines that run faster and are way better than a Pi

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